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Or maybe a hay bailer,😠
Or a peanut combine,😡
Or a plastic laying machine.....🤬🤬🤬🤬
That or the newfangled spouts on gas cans. Those are so stupid I machined a new one out of scrap aluminum. Know what it looks like? A spout with a hole in it that gas flows freely out of.

Or maybe bicycles, especially the ones in the middle of the road. That's probably it.
 
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No, I think it's the other way round actually.
Think about it, they're both N frames with the only real difference being bore and chamber dimensions.
So, it stands to reason the 610 would be slightly heavier than a 629 of equal barrel length.
My bad, I thought the 610 was on a K frame. lighter would come from the shorter barrel and lack of a full under lug too.
 
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No, a 610 is heavy as lead.
They do feel heavy, but really and truly there isn't enough of a weight difference between the two to make a difference, IMO.
A 4" 610 is 1.1 ounce heavier than a 4" 629.
A 6.5" 610 is 1.7 oz heavier that a 6.5" 629.
Those are empty weights.
Just for comparison, a 1076 weighs 41.6 oz.
With my ferked up rotator cuff a helium balloon held at arms length feels like it weighs 50 pounds.....🙄😏
 
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You likely know Sears is long gone. This is where "good" cheap tools came from in your reference 40 years in the past. In a past life time I turned wrenches for a living, and when I started it was all craftsaman, everyone started there.

So in those early days of dumpster diving at junk yards, (I miss the "old school" junk yards) it was all craftsaman. I still go now and again but now the tools are the HF. They really have replaced Sears as the go to. I don't really want to turn this into a HF pass fail thread, you can find that other places. But they are not bad, in some cases better in the hand then those 40yr old craftsman wrenches.

There are still things you can get from the dumpster yards of today, you pick you pull type places. The inventory changes quickly, and bones are left fairly quickly. But if you tinker, like wanting power seats in a rail buggy it is the place to go.

You are correct I have not gone and really "done" anything in a few years, last time I went I took my kid and I said I want that take it off, and made him do the hard work. He never really took to turning wrenches. And as he is "messican" perhaps that is why we did ok.

For me old stuff, there are a few places I used, generally specific forums with those people passing parts around, sometimes in the for sale area but usually not. Looking for a pedal assembly for a 63 VW, ask on Samba and you will get people out of the wood work to help you. And at better prices over epay.

Point I was trying to make is I have several sets of tools, just about anyone that does this at a serious hobby level will. My 850 fiat has everything in the frunk, (no trunk) to make it go. Electric fuel pump, some hose, coil cap points rotor and a pile of wire, along with a really cheap set of tools that will "work" if need be. Not needed it yet (knock on head, close enough to wood) but it is there and the stuff to install it is there. That is what I was trying to say.

In "every day" tinkering I lately have been grabbing a 40yr old Makita battery drill for some reason. I got it working again several months ago and bought new batteries for it. You remember those jobbies with the real long handle. I have far better drills but for some reason I am grabbing that one. Old time sake I guess. If I did it for a living I doubt it would last long, but I don't. Same with the sears ratchets, they really are not that great, back drag in the pounds, but for some reason I leave the "good" ones in the drawer. Even when I fight the tool it does not drive me crazy anymore. Likely because where I am in life in using them.
Sears is gone but Lowes is carrying craftsman currently. No idea how it compares to old craftsman.
 
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I will check the country of Origin on my new wrenches when I get home.
Needed a set of commie end/ratcheting wrenches and got an 11 piece Craftsman set at my local Ace.


For sure not US made and the few times I have used them, they have been excellent.
Im an average dude who does an above average amount of working on my own vehicles and taking care of stuff around the house.
Do have some nice old Craftsman US socket sets, SK tools, and other end wrenches to compare them to.
So far, so good.
And not doing anything crazy
 
Sears is gone but Lowes is carrying craftsman currently. No idea how it compares to old craftsman.

It doesn’t. It’s chinesium crap, disposable.

There was quite a dust up around this. When you ask who makes craftsman, they are owned by Stanley black n decker. One of the big players in the "tool game". TTI is another big company that owns a big chunk of the brands you likely know.

SBD opened a shiny new factory in TX IIRC. To make Craftsman USA made again. It has already closed. In looking at the tools depending on what they are depends on where they come from. China, Taiwan, or other eastern countries are most of it. Most of the power tools come out of China.

Find the graphic I want.....

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Then you can't say all Craftsman are made in china, because "craftsman" is a pretty wide range of products. You also can't say a Ryobi is the same as a Ridgid as Milwaukee, they are all owned by the same guys, but there are differences. There are "tiers" to the products. Interesting enough if you have seen the white power tools at walmart branded Heart....i think, those are also made by TTI, a pretty big player.

Then you get into changes, the Milwaukee 2767 is the tank of the 1/2 impact world, thing has great power and strong as hell. So what do you think they do to it. Try to make it cheaper (my theory) and they are total garbage. People traveled 100 miles to find a 2767-a and would walk out empty handed if there was a B, there are videos of B's destroying themselves in the parking lot of Home Depot after being bought and the guy walking back in. Torque Test did a real big deal with that and I think had a HUGE part in making Milwaukee own this screw up. And they made it right by the customers.



 
@LeftyJason

I will check the country of Origin on my new wrenches when I get home.
Needed a set of commie end/ratcheting wrenches and got an 11 piece Craftsman set at my local Ace.


For sure not US made and the few times I have used them, they have been excellent.
Im an average dude who does an above average amount of working on my own vehicles and taking care of stuff around the house.
Do have some nice old Craftsman US socket sets, SK tools, and other end wrenches to compare them to.
So far, so good.
And not doing anything crazy
I got a set of craftsmen from my dad for Christmas when I was in HS. Early 00's. Have mostly been buying craftsman these days so everything matches. Quality is good enough for my purposes. For hex bit sets I have been doing wiha or Milwaukee with my Dewalt drills.

I work on my own stuff at home. No lift, not professional, have tools supplied for work by work (aerospace cnc grinder). Most recent job I used tools for was changing shocks and struts on my wife's 2010 rav4.
 
There was quite a dust up around this. When you ask who makes craftsman, they are owned by Stanley black n decker. One of the big players in the "tool game". TTI is another big company that owns a big chunk of the brands you likely know.

SBD opened a shiny new factory in TX IIRC. To make Craftsman USA made again. It has already closed. In looking at the tools depending on what they are depends on where they come from. China, Taiwan, or other eastern countries are most of it. Most of the power tools come out of China.

Find the graphic I want.....

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Then you can't say all Craftsman are made in china, because "craftsman" is a pretty wide range of products. You also can't say a Ryobi is the same as a Ridgid as Milwaukee, they are all owned by the same guys, but there are differences. There are "tiers" to the products. Interesting enough if you have seen the white power tools at walmart branded Heart....i think, those are also made by TTI, a pretty big player.

Then you get into changes, the Milwaukee 2767 is the tank of the 1/2 impact world, thing has great power and strong as hell. So what do you think they do to it. Try to make it cheaper (my theory) and they are total garbage. People traveled 100 miles to find a 2767-a and would walk out empty handed if there was a B, there are videos of B's destroying themselves in the parking lot of Home Depot after being bought and the guy walking back in. Torque Test did a real big deal with that and I think had a HUGE part in making Milwaukee own this screw up. And they made it right by the customers.




All that’s true. I’m just extra salty about Craftsman and Sears in general. For a homeowner the hand tools are acceptable. I haven’t used the power tools. I maintain none of the new Craftsman match to old Craftsman.
 
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Where does it say I was hunting?
I was kicked back relaxing up in an elevated shooting platform watching a new day dawn and enjoying a good cup of coffee while waiting for the morning fog to burn off enough to shoot some reactive targets.....
I have a sneaky feeling you will there waiting when hunting season comes around, coffee and all.
 
I owned a Regal for some years. I bought it when my son was a senior in highschool and it had the 455 motor. Years later he fessed up to out running every fast car in the county with it.
You remember those jobbies with the real long handle.
Sure do. I used one for years until It just went up in smoke one day. I have owner stouter drills since but none better.
 
I got a set of craftsmen from my dad for Christmas when I was in HS. Early 00's. Have mostly been buying craftsman these days so everything matches. Quality is good enough for my purposes. For hex bit sets I have been doing wiha or Milwaukee with my Dewalt drills.

I work on my own stuff at home. No lift, not professional, have tools supplied for work by work (aerospace cnc grinder). Most recent job I used tools for was changing shocks and struts on my wife's 2010 rav4.
In 1967 at Christmas my grandfather gave me a Craftsman 2-drawer tool chest with with a complete set 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" ratchet and sockets as well as open and box end wrenches. Still have it and has held up well. They were well made especially in light of the quality that is sold today. Most of the power tools today are throw away chinese crap. Have a cabinet full of 30+ year old US made Porter Cable power tools that work like the day I bought them. The hedge fund financial engineers are the culprits behind the demise of the US tool industry.
 
In these days, quality in tools is pretty much defined by Harbor Freight. Went to my local hardware store to get a needle nose pliers (to replace the pliers that the lake swallowed up on Tuesday, the only tool that did not have a string or small rope tied too it.) Best I could find was made in Vietnam. Expensive to be sure, but not USA.

So, since jsut about everything appears to be chinese disposable, might as well get chinese / harbor Freight disposable.

(their 9mm latex gloves in xl actually fit :) )
 
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I thought somebody here IDd it as a Russian somethingorother?
In Russia, Sable wears you.....

Yeah....its still a fisher or marten.
Its a big ass weasel.
Skunk=stink weasel
Badger= grumpy weasel
Otter= water weasel
Wolverine= godzilla weasel
Marten=adorable castus weasel
Fisher=cuddly razor weasel
Weasel=murder rat weasel
Mink=amphibian weasel
Ferret=purse weasel
 
My bad, I thought the 610 was on a K frame. lighter would come from the shorter barrel and lack of a full under lug too.

There is an L-frame, too… that was a bit bigger than a K and had a solid under lug on longer barrels.

Model 10 was a bull barrel blue K-frame, IIRC. Model 65 (and 66) was stainless equivalent. Something tells me the 610 was an L-frame.

Sirhr

PS looked it up. 610 is an N-frame.
 
There is an L-frame, too… that was a bit bigger than a K and had a solid under lug on longer barrels.

Model 10 was a bull barrel blue K-frame, IIRC. Model 65 (and 66) was stainless equivalent. Something tells me the 610 was an L-frame.

Sirhr

PS looked it up. 610 is an N-frame.
Yes, I double checked after being corrected. I was thinking of the discontinued L-Frame 10mm. The Model 10 is a 38 Special.
I do love the Model 15 and 19 too.
 
Nothing showing up it appears, Waiting, waiting---- :D Hunting is when you get on the ground and out in the trees and bushes with them.

I know, lots of places that doesn't work. It was posted in fun anyway. Hope you got or get something------while waiting. :ROFLMAO:
Oh there's plenty showing up.
A good many young bucks and more does and fawns/yearlings than you can shake a stick at.
I've been waiting for doe season to open, which it did this morning, so I can thin some of them out.
They are way over populated in these parts.
As far as your definition of hunting goes, I agree with you 100%, and have BTDT for most of the 44 years I've been hunting deer.
Spent many a day in the swamp up on a climber watching a well used trail, or else sitting flat on the ground doing the same when there wasn't a suitable tree to climb.
Bad knees forced me to finally give up those methods several years ago so here I am, sitting in a vertically challenged box blind drinking coffee and waiting.
Some days my knees act up to the point I can't even climb up in a 6 foot stand.
Very few real hunters left around here now.
What the vast majority call hunting these days amounts to pouring out a pile of corn a hundred yards away and sitting up in a stand they bought from Cabela's guarding it.
It hasn't been a total bust this season.
Killed this one a couple weeks ago for my neighbor to take up to his son in Tennessee.
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That or the newfangled spouts on gas cans. Those are so stupid I machined a new one out of scrap aluminum. Know what it looks like? A spout with a hole in it that gas flows freely out of.

Or maybe bicycles, especially the ones in the middle of the road. That's probably it.

New gas cans with the EPA designed nozzles are proof that anything the government touches it fucks up.

Sirhr
 
Bad knees forced me to finally give up those methods several years ago so here I am, sitting in a vertically challenged box blind drinking coffee and waiting.

I can sympathize. I have gone from walking normally last spring to using a cane and am now hobbling short distance with the aid of a walker. Seems I have a vetebra turned somewhat sideways in my lower back pinching a nerve that is the suspected cause of this. I am just waiting to have a new MRI to confirm and see what is going to be done to fix me. If hunting stands were allowed in my state there is no way I could get into one.
 
I can sympathize. I have gone from walking normally last spring to using a cane and am now hobbling short distance with the aid of a walker. Seems I have a vetebra turned somewhat sideways in my lower back pinching a nerve that is the suspected cause of this. I am just waiting to have a new MRI to confirm and see what is going to be done to fix me. If hunting stands were allowed in my state there is no way I could get into one.
Ouch.
Hope you can get fixed up soon bud and get back to enjoying life.
Don't know how you feel about prayer, but I'm gonna pray for you anyway.
 
If I ever find who approved those things I’m gonna slash their tires. Nearly takes three hands to get it working.

I throw the nozzles away and fill from the can. Slops a bit of gas around(which is what the ass-pirates at the epa were trying to stop). But doesn’t splash in my eye, take forever… break…

Finally put in a 300 gallon diesel tank this summer, too. Now I fill from a pump.
 
If I ever find who approved those things I’m gonna slash their tires. Nearly takes three hands to get it working.

Oh and you can’t slash the tires… the Manbun-sporting twerp who designed them probably rides the metro or a ghey-assed little scooter with handlebars thingie.

Probably never touched a piece of equipment in his life. Except his boyfriends junk.

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Probably never touched a piece of equipment in his life.

Sirhr

This is EXACTLY how this torture device was created - nobody in the real world slapped them in the back of the head for a reality check and they never mowed a lawn as a kid. And they were proud of their creation, while never realizing people will just pull them off and spill more than before.