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Something kicking off in Israel

I always hear BS about "there are no such thing as Palestinians!" and "the Jews were there first"

the word Palestina is the Latinized form of Philistia - the Philistines were people who most bible readers know as the enemies of Saul and David. So there certainly is such a thing. However, even before that, in Genesis, Abraham lived "in the land of the Philistines" and made a covenant with them: 21:23 Now swear to me here before God that you will not deal falsely with me or my children or my descendants. Show to me and the country where you now reside as a foreigner the same kindness I have shown to you.” 24 And Abraham replied, “I swear it.”

so like anything else, the question becomes 'how far do you want to go back'.

Exactly… they were all Palestinians and all there back to pre history…. But these days the “claim” by Palestinian Arabs is that they are the true Palestinians.

Bullshit… I bet if you do the DNA analysis, they are all related but simply found different religions, tribal affiliations and paths tens of centuries ago. And those social bifurcations put them at each others throats. Didn’t help when bunches of them started to listen to Mohammed and his “nonbelievers are infidels and you will go to paradise for killing them” BS. You know… the religion of peace stuff that the American Left is all Gaga over.

Yessir Arafat and his terrorist ilk created the “Palestinians” (as oppressed Arabs who whose families hail from Palestine) in the 1960’s. And the left bought into that fake narrative hook, line and sinker. Aided and abetted by disinformation from Arafat’s Soviet and socialist supporting agencies.

Sirhr
 
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The Biden administration’s now-suspended Iran envoy Robert Malley helped to fund, support, and direct an Iranian intelligence operation designed to influence the United States and allied governments, according to a trove of purloined Iranian government emails. The emails, which were reported on by veteran Wall Street Journal correspondent Jay Solomon, writing in Semafor, and by Iran International, the London-based émigré opposition outlet which is the most widely read independent news source inside Iran, were published last week after being extensively verified over a period of several months by the two outlets. They showed that Malley had helped to infiltrate an Iranian agent of influence named Ariane Tabatabai into some of the most sensitive positions in the U.S. government—first at the State Department and now the Pentagon, where she has been

serving as chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations, Christopher Maier.

And where is Kerry in this? Don't tell me he is just playing Climate Czar.
 
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The Israeli people were disarmed and made helpless by their own government, unable to defend themselves in their time of greatest need. Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands will have died in horrific ways by the time this is all over. The Israeli public needs to make sure and hang every politician who voted for "reasonable gun control" from the nearest tree.
Jews are gun banners everywhere they reside.

Fuck em
 
They had US stockpiles of shells stored in Israel to use in case of war , that stockpile is now dry it went to Ukraine, Israeli itself does not have much manufacturing capacity virtually everything they sell is mostly manufactured in US or Europe, typical cycle is US invests in development Israel Co-develops with US companies a product major components get manufactured in US and assembled in Israel , also when you read Germany buys Israeli interceptors, Spain buys Israeli ATGMs one of the things that makes it happen is that Israelis set up a licence manufacturing in host country because they lack domestic manufacturing. Its a small country and it foremost export is precious stones and metals, .

The latest example is their 8x8 APC Eitan which is being manufactured in kit form in US an only finished up in Israel, in future US FMI can not be converted from dollars to local currency so it has to be spent as USD which will mean nearly 70% overall value done in US. Without US manufacturing input Israel can not manufacture much beyond small arms. they export a paltry 2 billion $ in arms per year. US arms industry likely lobbied for such an arrangement like it snuffed many Us funded Israeli projects out in the past in fear of competition on world markets and given Israel's limited manufacturing capability Israel did not turn down a free lunch, they might still regret increased dependence if supply is not there.


I am one who distinguishes Zion Globalists from the Jewish State of Israel and miracles like the Seven Day War. I wouldn't be surprised if yet another "miracle" happens. Timing is very interesting, esp. if Iran decides to go all in. For those wondering/asking how will the Third Temple ever be built at the Dome? This may be how. Red heifers are just about ready.
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By September 8, 2023
The days of the Third Temple are apparently upon us. Why? It’s all thanks to a cow.

In the Bible, red heifers feature heavily in Temple law. The cows must be pure red, without even two hairs of another color, and without any other form of blemish, and they’re an essential part of sacrificial purity laws. Their ashes are required, according to passages in Numbers, to purify the Temple’s priests and its altars.

But these laws have long been irrelevant — after all, there hasn’t been a Temple in well over a millennia in which to slaughter the cows. Some religious stories, however, say that before the Third Temple is built, heralding the messianic era long prayed for by both Jews and Christians, a pure red heifer will be sacrificed again.

In Judaism, this era is prophesied to mean the coming of a time that includes the return of biblical laws of purity, thus allowing for truly holy life. For Evangelical Christians, it would herald the End Times, the return of Jesus to Earth and the Rapture; this belief has long driven Christian Zionism and Christian lobbying on behalf of Israel.

For both groups, there are a few requirements for this time to arrive: the restoration of the nation of Israel, Jerusalem becoming a Jewish city again — which was accomplished, sort of, by Israel in 1967 — and the birth of a red heifer to purify it all.

Apparently, according to a breathless announcement in the UK tabloid The Mirror, a red heifer has been born — the first born in Israel in 2,000 years.

The Temple Institute, a Jerusalem-based organization led by American-born Orthodox rabbi Chaim Richman, advocates for building the Third Temple. They have said they will be examining the calf carefully as it grows for blemishes in order to see if the time is right to start construction.

The heifer herself

This particular calf is not an accident; the Temple Institute has been working to breed a sacrificial cow for years, after importing red Angus cows from Nebraska. The most recent calf is not the first birth that has been announced with great excitement, and several have also been shipped in from the U.S., where Evangelical Christian farmers support the Jewish efforts.

While some Jews believe that the Third Temple can only be built in the prophesied messianic age, groups like the Temple Institute believe that the Jews have to take the prophecy into their own hands. In their interpretation, the long-prayed-for epoch can only come once the Temple has been built and purified, and, they believe, that’s up to them.

The Institute maintains an active YouTube channel, where they post “Temple Talk” podcast episodes, Torah lessons, and videos detailing their efforts to pave the way for a Third Temple, including recreating dozens of temple vessels. They have also built a giant gold menorah, according to Torah specifications and weighing in at half a ton — including 45 kilograms of 24-karat gold. It currently stands in the central plaza of the Jewish Quarter in Jerusalem’s Old City, “ready to be kindled in the rebuilt Holy Temple,” according to the Institute’s video.

Boneh Israel, another pro-Third Temple group, has both Jewish and Christian members that, according to its website, work on “actively bringing the redemption closer”; they are responsible for shipping several red heifers from Texas to the U.S. earlier this year.

And Rabbi Yitzchak Mamo, from yet another Third Temple group, Uvne Jerusalem, told the Christian Broadcasting Network that he has planned a ceremony for Passover 2024 to slaughter the imported heifers, assuming they have not developed any blemishes before then. Mamo said he bought a plot of land overlooking the Temple Mount 12 years ago, specifically in hopes of using it for the slaughter ceremony and beginning preparations for the Third Temple’s construction.

The trouble with a Third Temple

The destruction of the Temple is one of the greatest tragedies in Judaism. But building a new one — the Third Temple — is a complicated, controversial proposition, both religiously and politically.

The Temple Mount, the former site of the Second Temple, is currently the home of the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque, both holy sites in Islam. Though Jerusalem is under Israeli control, the Temple Mount is managed by an organization called the Jordanian Waqf, with Israeli soldiers controlling ingress and egress.

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Israeli security forces stand guard as Jews visit the Temple Mount. Photo by Getty Images
The Western Wall, Judaism’s most holy site, is at its base, holy for its proximity to the former site of the Temple, but access to the hilltop is restricted for non-Muslims, and Jewish prayer inside the area has been officially prohibited for most of Israel’s existence.

Geopolitics aren’t the only issue, however; Jewish scholars, including the Israeli rabbinate, have ruled that the grounds are off-limits to Jews. The Holy of Holies, the inner portion of the Temple — access to which was restricted only to purified high priests — is unknown after the Temple’s destruction, and ritual law forbids anyone impure from entering. Due to the impossibility of Temple purity without a Temple, that means the possibility of accidentally coming into contact with the inner sanctum while impure is too high. Others argue that the Third Temple cannot be built until the messianic era, prayed for and predicted in Jewish texts, arrives.

Not all Jewish scholars agree, however — they never do. Jewish groups have, especially in recent years, been allowed to pray on the Temple Mount. At least one group, Shalom Jerusalem, led by Yehuda Glick, has made promoting and establishing Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount its mission and, though the rules have officially remained unchanged, Israeli soldiers have protected Glick and other Jewish worshippers on the hilltop.

The movements toward building a Third Temple have generally resulted in violence; Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount is seen by Palestinians as an assertion of Israeli authority on the holy site. And when a red heifer was in Haifa in the ’90s, a columnist at Haaretz even wrote that it should be shot before it caused another intifada.

But to true believers, the controversy makes no sense. They believe that the Third Temple will be a source of God for all people, and usher in an era of world peace. Despite evidence to the contrary.
 
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"Biden used reserves to stabilize domestic oil prices." Well sort of. More like he wasted the reserves to make it appear we are at crisis oil levels. The prices are up and reserves are down because Biden turned off domestic oil production and stopped pipelines that would make oil even cheaper and more available. How long did it take Trump to turn us into the largest oil producing country. And he didn't build anything to do it. A lot of things like this are fruit from the poison tree because they are based and false premises. They sound good at first though.
 
"Biden used reserves to stabilize domestic oil prices." Well sort of. More like he wasted the reserves to make it appear we are at crisis oil levels. The prices are up and reserves are down because Biden turned off domestic oil production and stopped pipelines that would make oil even cheaper and more available. How long did it take Trump to turn us into the largest oil producing country. And he didn't build anything to do it. A lot of things like this are fruit from the poison tree because they are based and false premises. They sound good at first though.
Correct. The whole oil shortage thing is a fabricated and artificial shortage. The is no real reason we should be here other than some desire it to occur and are forcing it to happen. Remember that in 2024 when the price of gas goes through the roof.

Oh, and we only have a little over two weeks of oil in storage. Do the math on that.

 
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What you are witnessing is a setup for a new axis vs allies dustup. NATO v BRICS or whatever new enemy coalition with all the straphangers and backstabbers for each side. If I am correct, our world is about to enter a shitstorm. Especially when you add in high interest rates worldwide and a decline in GDP almost everywhere. Shit is about to get super jiggy.
Shit's definitely in the fan.
What speed are the blades turning? Seems to be getting quite windy.
Globally.
 
Yep the brunt of the incursion was borne by a bunch of Burning Man crowd of hippie tourists that had a peace concert on Gaza border.


Yep. They selected the weakest possible target to raid and take captives. Even though the density of armed civilians in Israel is not high, there is still a considerable amount, and that was why settlements and towns were secondary and were mostly targeted for rocket barrages. The concert and the Bollywood edition Burning Man they had going? That was a 100% soft target. A free fire zone. That is precisely why they chose it for a raid.
 
You'd think that events like this one might break the anti-gun conditioning of the progressive jews but it won't.
Yep. Their mentality won't allow it. They still view the gun as the cause of death instead of the assholes behind the triggers.
If guns didn't exist, there would simply be another form of weapon.
It's shown throughout history. Yet, they prefer to be helpless and reliant on "others" for protection.
So be it. They reap what they sow.
 
Checking Russian social networks folks are most amused by the fact that Russian 'liberal inteligencia' and nouveau riche that moved to Israel at start of Ukraine war got miltary summons today.

Putin and Xi will not be seen doing anything but giving statements calling to stop hostilities for both Israel is an important partner, particularly for Chinese .
China has business with more Israeli startups than US. Russians and ex soviets are about 20+% of the Israeli population its actually the largest Russian speaking population outside former Soviet republics and most of Russian ''money'' has an Israeli passport besides a Russian one.

The diaspora.

Israel got lot of know-how when the Russian Jews immigrated. And quite a bit of capital. I would not call them Ex-Soviets. Most are rabidly anti-communist.

And neither Russia nor China will do anything about Hamas. Russia in particular conducts hundreds of kinetic operations a year against its Islamic separatists.

Looking over the open source summaries this morning, the thing that sticks out is the death toll at the "peace festival." Well over 200 at this point.

The real problem is not the terrorists today, but the root cause of all this : those that espouse the ideology behind Hamas - the educators, the ideological infrastructure. That has to be rooted out. We have the same problem here. Essentially the folks are grifters.
 
First off the middle east does not care for the Palestinians. Egypt closed their border and will not take them in. Not one country over there was willing to take them many years ago. Iran and Saudi are enemies fighting proxy wars for years. Iran wants to destroy Israel, so the enemy of my enemy situation allowed the Trump administration to bring them together. The Muslim cause will put pressure on Saudi to condemn Israel if they go scorched earth.

yep. Every middle easterner I meet spits on the Palestinians. The Lebanese get volcanic about how they destroyed their country. And we are letting in all kinds of riff raff via our border.
 
Anybody remember the huge amount of belligerent African migrants that Israel kicked out less than a month ago? From the pictures from yesterday, it looked like a lot of the Hamas ranks were composed of sub-Saharan Africans. Many of these "migrants" were Islamic fundamentalists from Nigeria, Chad, Uganda, and elsewhere and it seems like they boosted Hamas' manpower considerably...
 
Anybody remember the huge amount of belligerent African migrants that Israel kicked out less than a month ago? From the pictures from yesterday, it looked like a lot of the Hamas ranks were composed of sub-Saharan Africans. Many of these "migrants" were Islamic fundamentalists from Nigeria, Chad, Uganda, and elsewhere and it seems like they boosted Hamas' manpower considerably...

Israel has an active settler program to colonise Palestine, and they are occasionally scraping the bottom of the barrel with some African quasi jews who then turned out not to compatible. Nigerian prince scam..........

 
I am being slightly mean here but considering ragheads are still schooling them in firefights

Next time any of you go to some sort of firearms class featuring an IDF veteran as an instructor ask if they have any ANA or Iraqi Army veteran instead or maybe one of them Uvalde cops.




Yeah, I think you are.

There is quite a bit of video of IDF soldiers, police and civvies fighting back.

It's not easy doing single man CQB in a meeting engagement. It's very easy to get fixed or flanked with a dozen rifles shooting at you. You will not dominate unless you have an overmatch capability - either a good perch and lots of ammo, heavy weapon, or a long range rifle. And then they can just disengage and find another target.

You need a platoon or more of infantry to find, fix, and then force them into battle OR several armored vehicles/gun trucks and some luck.
 
Not when you get flash banged at 5am by a large group of Stazi.

Wrong thread…

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This belongs in the Injuns thread from earlier today!

They make much wumpum from un-taxed smokes. And casinos

Though other than not hijacking anything (since Alcatraz) or blowing stuff up much, they are sort of like the Palestinians. Just drunker and they eat a lot more pork.

Maybe they should have given the Palestinians casinos… to shut them up.

Sirhr

I spent a week at Little Big Horn. Custer got his ass kicked by superior weaponry and superior tactics.

Better yet was the day at the Crazy Horse memorial. One of the best museums on American Indians I've seen.

You do have a point.

On topic - the British said that a bustling commercial center in each town was worth more than a Battalion of Infantry.

Had we developed the mines and built have industry in Afghanistan, and exported the minerals to home, there would have been no Taliban.

Instead of exporting free markets and heavy industry, we tried to sell transvestites.
 
The Israeli people were disarmed and made helpless by their own government, unable to defend themselves in their time of greatest need. Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands will have died in horrific ways by the time this is all over. The Israeli public needs to make sure and hang every politician who voted for "reasonable gun control" from the nearest tree.

Got a reference on this?
 
Yeah, I think you are.

There is quite a bit of video of IDF soldiers, police and civvies fighting back.

It's not easy doing single man CQB in a meeting engagement. It's very easy to get fixed or flanked with a dozen rifles shooting at you. You will not dominate unless you have an overmatch capability - either a good perch and lots of ammo, heavy weapon, or a long range rifle. And then they can just disengage and find another target.

You need a platoon or more of infantry to find, fix, and then force them into battle OR several armored vehicles/gun trucks and some luck.


Don't forget drones too. Drones are absolutely integral in modern and future CQB urban warfare. Having a top-down view of the battlefield used to be considered the apex feature of first-person shooter action and military video games. A fleet of drones, alert operators and spotters, and ability to convey rapidly changing data via comms and relaying livefeeds from the drones to the devices of your fellow operators is essential. And having these operators trained to be able to pay attention to their immediate surroundings and their weapon or limb mounted smartphones in order to receive this constantly changing intel is another asset of contemporary warfare.
 
Imagine an administration being wrong on literally every single thing:
  • Foreign policy
  • Economy
  • The border
  • Domestic policy
  • Military preparedness
...and still having people come out and say Biden is doing a great job...

Seems almost like something Orwell might have predicted...

Sirhr
 
Imagine an administration being wrong on literally every single thing:
  • Foreign policy
  • Economy
  • The border
  • Domestic policy
  • Military preparedness
...and still having people come out and say Biden is doing a great job...
Home prices have gone up by 50% since Biden took over. Food and rent by at least that much. Then I hear shit from MSM like "wages are finally outpacing inflation" and "Bidenomics is doing great things for the middle class" and have to remind myself that at this point all news is fake news.
 
i don't believe in their justification, but i suppose it is only fair to give their side of it.
this seems like it took a lot of planning and wasn't a spontaneous response...perhaps gaslighting like benghazi.



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Imagine an administration being wrong on literally every single thing:
  • Foreign policy
  • Economy
  • The border
  • Domestic policy
  • Military preparedness
...and still having people come out and say Biden is doing a great job...
It’s funny you think they are “wrong” on their policies.

Ever consider that to them their policies are right.
 
and let's keep some perspective without saying anything is justification for what happens today. there are 2 sides to everything and no angels.