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Why are we worried about Israels concentration camp when our borders are wide open?
Why are so many goverment officials dual citizen?
What is the effects of Israel billions of dollars lobbying spent in DC?
When Ben Shapiro says we must support Israel or they will use nuclear weapons is he correct?
Do you understand the radical nature and history of Netenyahus Likud party?
Led like a donkey with a ring in its nose into WW3.
If a terror attack occurs in the USA Netanyahu will throw a party. Putty in their hands.
Personally I believe church and state should be seperate, But if we are to say a theological preference should guide our actions why are we not aligned with the other Christian nation- Russia? Ke sera. Pushed them into Chinas hands.
Do you feel Judaism has more in common with Christianity than Islam? If so why? There was this guy named Abraham...
America first. Except for Israel. Never again, Except for gaza.
Of course they are trying to place these issues in neat left vs right boxes. Square pegs in round holes.
Israel has a right to exist. The way they are going about it is wrong. The biggest losers? (beside the dead civillians) the people of Israel along with dragging USA into their fuck up.
Why was netanyahus approval rating at 10%? Shouldnt they "rise up"?
Down to the boner clinic for a T/HGH injection and get with the program?
Good post but as to the above, WHY?
Same reason we do. They wanted the land, fought for it and defeated the previous tenants and now have a right to fight to keep it. The difference is that they actually have Biblical claim to the region while we just used the idea of "manifest destiny" to whip people into a fervor to get the unpleasant things done that are required when robbing land from indigenous peoples.
they claimed their homeland and defended it with force of arms, like any other nation.
didn't we claim british territory as our own and do the same?
Except Israel never started any wars that I’m aware of. The land was brought up through Zionism. Even mark Twain commented on his journeys about how barren and vastly nothing the land was. It was built by the Jews and Muslims that settled there.
Even the whole “Gaza being a prison” thing is a big murky. While I sympathize with the people there, I don’t see how that is Israel’s responsibility alone.
2005 they gave Gaza to palenstine. Palenstine by 2007 have given control to Hamas. Eygpt refuse to govern. Lebanon refuses to govern. Israel refuse to govern….Iran uses as a prozy to launch direct and indirect fire at Israel since 2007…
As far as war, a nation is only is what you can hold on to, and these fools are surrounded, very literally by people that want Israel wiped from existence.
Even the whole “Gaza being a prison” thing is a big murky. While I sympathize with the people there, I don’t see how that is Israel’s responsibility alone.
2005 they gave Gaza to palenstine. Palenstine by 2007 have given control to Hamas. Eygpt refuse to govern. Lebanon refuses to govern. Israel refuse to govern….Iran uses as a prozy to launch direct and indirect fire at Israel since 2007…
As far as war, a nation is only is what you can hold on to, and these fools are surrounded, very literally by people that want Israel wiped from existence.
Israel started wars often enough it was just sold as self-defense all the time even when that was not even remotely the case. Israeli history is as fake and as embellished as they get . Israel's image is also polished and fake as bolt-on tits and teeth you see in commercials. The Holocaust victimhood industry is at full blast every step of the way.
Kinda like IDF shooting class and self-defense lessons at your local strip mall.
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Serious question for you.
When an enemy wants to dirt nap your entire population and take your land but they hide behind their own non-combatant civilians, what exactly are your options? If they value your own demise more than they value their own women and children do we just sit on our hands and endure their attacks?
Why are they "allowed"?
Really?
Who are we or anyone else to referee another country's choices regarding self protection?
The U.S. and the West are complicit in the majority of wars fought around the world in the last 100 years. Are we so wise as to deserve the crown as world referee. Hardly.
They (Israel ) are a sovereign country and are not automatically slaved to the rules and whims of the U.S. or anyone else.
Would you pop an attitude if another country decided to not allow the U.S. to make the best choices for our own good? I'm guessing you would want to get pissy real quick like.
I do not share your stance that the U.S and the West have a right to dictate the path of other countries.
Keep an close eye out on potential adversaries and if they do anything to threaten our existence they should be neutered and if need be destroyed. Otherwise we need to stop trying to play mother hen especially when we can't even manage our own house.
I am dumbfounded at this statement given the context of the discussion.
This is the only way to fight and prevail.
It is WAR.
We have had peace and prosperity in our hemisphere for so long now, we literally have lost sight of what a true war entails.
If you want to simply feed your own MIC and systematically try to play chess with the world geopolitical landscape, then by all means dial back use of force so things drag out. This ultimately results in 10X more death and human suffering but makes elite players even more wealthy.
If you want to actually defeat an enemy and prevent them from being a recurring threat, YOU HAVE TO USE DISPROPORTIONAL FORCE.
This has been a constant since the existence of the human species.
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The kill the leaders shit does not work. You win by destroying the will to resist among the majority of the population and by killing off the 3% true believers.
Grierson's Raid in 1863 and then Sherman's march to sea did more to end the Civil War than anything else. They made it clear to the civvies that it was a lost cause. They exposed the southern elites as fools.
Campaigning in the winter and burning the accumulated food and shelter in the Fall did more to end the Commanche and Cheyenne evil than chasing raids in the high summer.
Impoverishing the German and Japanese people did more than the battle of midway to break their will. The big battles of the war set the stage to put B29s forward where they could mine the sea lanes and the subs could operate forward.
You cut off money, you cut off most food, you make people homeless in the winter and they have to move in with those who have shelter.
1. Drill and pump oil. Drive the price down world wide. Crush the petrol-states.
2. Cut off all funding to Islamic world. Stop paying them. Make them deal with the problems at home.
3. Expel any nationality here that supports Hamas or Iran. It should be an DHS adminstrative task.
4. Investigate colleges for supporting our enemies. If they took money, it's slam dunk. Fine them. Throw them in jail. Make it a felony.
5. Free up American business to invest all over the world to build our influence.
I'm wondering when India's, Pakistan's, Iran's and NoKo's paperwork for the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty is going to be approved ?
I think the ink on their membership cards is just about dry and just waiting for final approval in order to be sent out in the mail.
AFAF.
Apples and Oranges.
But its all been hashed over and I really dont care to waste the energy going further.
And thats not to necessarily defend our acquisition. America pulled a lot of sleazy shit.
Thats very debatable.
I wont get into debate on the subject but according to many 'Orthodox' rabbi's, who no doubt have better understanding of the Torah than any of us, they do not. They were scattered to live amongst the nations. The new Israel will be a spiritual Israel, not a physical one. Check out Rabbi Weiss on Youtube.
Other than that, I dont disagree.
Many folks make the mistake of thinking of "Jews" or "Israelis" as some kind of monolithic block.
They are not. Just like in the USA, there are a wide variety of ethnicities, cultures and beliefs.
"Jews" in the USA or other countries don't always agree with various "Jews" in Israel.
When it comes to some of the main divisions in Israel, I think American fundamentalist Christians have far more in common with the "Zionist" faction and actually very little in common with the Ultra Orthodox faction (who fervently hate Christians and dislike Zionists).
Sure, I’m willing and I except that it’s possible, but when you want to challenge and rewrite history, I’d like to see the evidence. Not a tweet.
Either way. Gaza was given back, and no one wants them.
Correct in the first part.
I havent seen the hate of Christians but they do hate Zionism because (by their interpretation) it's a complete lie and insult to their God and true Judaism.
But they are of course happy to live under the protection of the Zionists for the most part.
They may grumble and say about how it's wrong but when Muslims or National Socialists are trying to wipe them out, it's the Zionists (and in bigger events Christians) that come to save the day with all the force needed.
And while I understand their beliefs and interpretation, I personally think they are incorrect and a straight forward reading of the scriptures in my opinion supports the Zionist faction.
A fairly straight forward reading of the scriptures also would indicate that there will never be peace in that area until the day humans are no longer the ones in control of the Earth.
There is ample literature documenting it. The tweet is just a small snippet of a lecture.
Gaza was given back in the form of a prison or a British-style concentration camp, all input and output is 100% controlled and dosed, Israel specifically nurtured Hamas to make Gaza as untenable as possible and justify 'moving the grass'.
When it comes to Israeli settler stuff its third world style robbery at gunpoint and when your guns are not enough call IDF, they are literal goatfuckers stealing goats,sheep,cattle ,land houses at will from locals . They are not an iota better than Arabs. Google Israeli settlers stealing shit ,you would be putting a bullet in each and every one if you had to deal with them.
What is the semite fascination with goats?
Israel Just Released 500 Goats It Stole From Lebanon
The Israeli military has returned a large number of goats that it had seized on Sunday from southern Lebanon to push shepherds away.
www.the961.com 
The only one 'expansion' of a Jewish "empire" in history occurred long after the original Canaanites had been expelled. That was the Khazari Khanate of Central Asia. The Khazars were Turco-Mongols who had migrated westward from Xinjiang due to the Chinese Han Dynasty's crackdown on nomadic tribes on their borders. They were pastoral, horse based tribesmen who were excellent mounted archers and they carved out a big swath of territory from the Caucasus to northern Syria by 1 AD. Originally shamanistic like most Mongol and Turkic clans, the Khazars adopted Judaism and made it their official institution for several centuries and they were responsible for the preservation of numerous Hebrew and Yiddish texts that would have otherwise been lost over the years. But, like other Turkic tribes, they remained semi-nomadic and their ruling heirarchy was based on tribal leaders and a Great Khan, who was selected by a tribal council called the kuriltai, or kurultay. The Khazari Khanate slowly dissolved after 500 AD and various factions were absorbed into other Turkic kingdoms like the Seljuks, who started becoming the fastest and most aggressive faction in the Caucasus starting in 1000 AD. By that time, the Jewish Khazar central institution was no longer in existence and the original Khazar empire became part of the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum and they had all converted to Sunni Islam.
Israel started wars often enough it was just sold as self-defense all the time even when that was not even remotely the case. Israeli history is as fake and as embellished as they get . Israel's image is also polished and fake as bolt-on tits and teeth you see in commercials. The Holocaust victimhood industry is at full blast every step of the way.
Kinda like IDF shooting class and self-defense lessons at your local strip mall.
Never trust a Palestinian activist.
Don't forget, Sadaam Husein was paying 25,000 dollars per martyr (another reason Iraq was targeted)
so how do weapons from nk get to gaza?
It's not a ballistic missel system, It's an inner orbit mail delivery system..so how do weapons from nk get to gaza?
That is true, barren land that was cultivated by the Jews for 4000 years.
Was he? I thought he was secular and kept the radicals in check?
Israel deciding to send jets to bomb you when you are not engaged in any overt hostilities kind of tends to make folks want payback.
US says it shot down missiles, drones in Red Sea potentially heading toward Israel
A U.S. warship shot down three missiles and several drones in the northern Red Sea, the Pentagon said on Thursday, adding that they were potentially heading toward targets in Israel.
www.reuters.com Ahhhhh.... Now it's the Red Sea, guarded by the American's
oilprice.com
Israel Said To Divert Oil Imports To Red Sea Port To Avoid Targeting | OilPrice.com
Israel is being forced to divert crude oil imports from its main Mediterranean terminal due to the escalating Gaza conflict
oilprice.com Seems even dropping of the Venezuelan sanctions will not help in refilling SPR as it likely to be drained even more as Brandon needs to keep the prices down for election season.Ahhhhh.... Now it's the Red Sea, guarded by the American's
Israel Said To Divert Oil Imports To Red Sea Port To Avoid Targeting | OilPrice.com
Israel is being forced to divert crude oil imports from its main Mediterranean terminal due to the escalating Gaza conflict
Just watched the propaganda on Newsmax beating the drum to get American troops invlolved.
Couple questions….
Who is going to run it?
Why do you think it will not be the same people that ran Afghanistan?
Absolutely stupid the thinking on this.
Everyone is just going to act independently? Not my Commander in Chief!
Oh they are going to let Trump run the war?
Pump the brakes before you go off the cliff.
Couple questions….
Who is going to run it?
Why do you think it will not be the same people that ran Afghanistan?
Absolutely stupid the thinking on this.
Everyone is just going to act independently? Not my Commander in Chief!
Oh they are going to let Trump run the war?
Pump the brakes before you go off the cliff.
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We are already off the cliff... I believe the term is "free falling"...... Not the fall that get's us, it's the landing.
Not sure how much of this holds water, certinly something to think about. One thing is for sure is these non elected, and elected leaders are tools.
Obama infiltrated DC with Muslims! He had. Has a plan! Hell. He’s a fuckin Muslim too!
Surprising or not IDF seems to be going through the same lack of PP equipment as the Russians did.So after raiding all the military surplus and tactical stores buying from China followed . Cargo jets full of privately sourced gear is being brought to Israel at this time.
And no surprise they are hustling US and European pensioners with various Christian charities for these donations. Where is the Billionaire class? Probably making good money on supplying Chicom stuff at inflated prices to said Christian charities.
They just released another batch of 9000 privately supplied plates after batch testing them. Chicom stuff rules but there is a bunch of defective stuff as well.
www.jpost.com
IDF GI looks as poorly equipped as he is trained (no offense to the local strip mall guy, that is selling IDF self-defense classes) .
so 80's IDF reservist standard issue , ' it seems all that US and European miltary aid over past decades is spent on big ticket items not GI's
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-s...-reservists-find-different-reality-on-ground/
And no surprise they are hustling US and European pensioners with various Christian charities for these donations. Where is the Billionaire class? Probably making good money on supplying Chicom stuff at inflated prices to said Christian charities.
They just released another batch of 9000 privately supplied plates after batch testing them. Chicom stuff rules but there is a bunch of defective stuff as well.
IDF receives dozens of shipments of defective protective vests
The Defense Ministry is asking that donated gear meet certification and quality standards.
www.jpost.com IDF GI looks as poorly equipped as he is trained (no offense to the local strip mall guy, that is selling IDF self-defense classes) .
so 80's IDF reservist standard issue , ' it seems all that US and European miltary aid over past decades is spent on big ticket items not GI's
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-s...-reservists-find-different-reality-on-ground/
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Because Britain said so in 1948?
What about the nation and people that existed there for more than 2 millenia?
Do they not have human rights?
Hadrian did nothing wrong.
No, the truth might hurt your feelings.
At least Palestine never sunk an American ship and tried to blame it on their enemies, to drag you into a war on their side.
Another party in this conflict did exactly that, on purpose.
How any American can support Israel, I will never understand, not after getting backstabbed by them about a million times.
They gave the soviets nukes, sold your nukes to China, knew of 9/11 beforehand, USS Liberty, Levon affair, directly supported ISIS with both funding and medical support, and the list goes on and on.
Not to mention the hundreds of billions they cost the US taxpayer, what was your reward?
Dead American soldiers in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.
Maybe you guys need to look where your loyalties belong.
How much blood will you spill for a country that hates your people?
This is a direct quote of the most popular chief rabbi of Israel ever.
More than 800 000 people attended his funeral.
You mean the Jews?
Well, the world changes. No one can put things back the way they were. The events of 2 millennia in the past have been written and re-written. Your opinion of Hadrian is bases on writings of those who won the wars. Human rights are fought for.
You sound like an AI Bot attempting to ask the unanswerable question.
The jews were lost their rights to that land when they masscred tens of thousands of Roman civilians in the Bar Kokhba revolt in the years 132-136.
And the country was renamed from Judea to Palestine by emperor Hadrian.
Israel as a nation was created by the brits in 1948 by way of the Balfour declaration.
It's not so much that I support Palestine, I just consider them the lesser evil.
For all I care, someone should just nuke the whole middle east.
Nothing good ever comes out of that region, or they could just stop meddling in the affairs of others, and I would have no issues with either party.
Convenient skip over history from 2 millennium to 132.
I’m guessing that’s why no country in the area want the “ Palestinian” people in their country.
We can’t have those peace loving folks running around our country promoting peace.
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You'd probably be very peace loving and kind if someone bulldozed your home and killed your children.
I’m guessing that’s why no country in the area want the “ Palestinian” people in their country.
We can’t have those peace loving folks running around our country promoting peace.
Not supporting terror attacks by hamas, but I'm certainly not fucking surprised either.
Also, those NGOs shipping millions of muslims here, all funded by Israel, with your tax money, so yeah, I do feel some animosity towards those that wish to destroy my country.
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