We had a visitor at the Quantico Shooting Club last evening.
“If you see wildlife on the range, do not shoot it.”
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“If you see wildlife on the range, do not shoot it.”
What's the contour? I ask because I just placed an order for 1.350 to 1.250 at 28".
Have you rested the rifle on bipods or tripod and applied pressure? Im no no barrel doctor, but I imagine it will make contact, because of the thickness I'm not sure how much pressure will make an effect.
Here I was having fun just lurking around. Now I’m having to ‘contribute’ again
lol1.35” for 5”. Then taper to 1.25” at the muzzle.
Need more weight to manage recoil? Hit the gym. And then add some weights… to the rifle
It is 1.35 for 5 then a straight taper to 1.15 at 34”
It doesn’t touch with it sitting on a bipod but if I put any additional load on it I can here it tap
1.5 will clear if your action and clip on rail are the same height This is 1.5” with a 5-27x56 and there’s room for aadland scope caps.
So, no exact experience with this in an AI...BUT...I had this problem in an AR that gave me accuracy fits until I figured it out. Basically had the same thing as your photos as far as clearance to the gas block, and could squeeze the barrel down by hand and get the two to touch.
Had horrible accuracy with two barrels and probably 200 rounds wasted. Never could get to keep it from shooting fliers. Finally gave up and went to a thinner barrel and .750 gas block (had been .875). Problem went away immediately.
I'd shoot it and see if I were you, especially after you invested that much. However, if you find yourself battling accuracy issues, I wouldn't put a lot into load development.
Still in stock. Ordered 2 of them. Definitely call when ordering as they work a better deal then what’s online
I’ll try them in my 22 atx and 14 AT when they arrive. Ones going to be converted to a WSM bolt. The other I plan to use as a SFP bolt for my 2014 AT
www.eurooptic.com
I’ll try them in my 22 atx and 14 AT when they arrive. Ones going to be converted to a WSM bolt. The other I plan to use as a SFP bolt for my 2014 AT
Accuracy International Bolt Assembly Complete 308 Win including bolt/shroud assembly with 1.6mm firing pin. MPN 26547BL | SHIPS FREE! - EuroOptic
Accuracy International Bolt Assembly Complete 308 Win including bolt/shroud assembly with 1.6mm firing pin. MPN 26547BL | Only at EuroOptic.com!
Still in stock. Ordered 2 of them. Definitely call when ordering as they work a better deal then what’s online
I’ll try them in my 22 atx and 14 AT when they arrive. Ones going to be converted to a WSM bolt. The other I plan to use as a SFP bolt for my 2014 AT
Accuracy International Bolt Assembly Complete 308 Win including bolt/shroud assembly with 1.6mm firing pin. MPN 26547BL | SHIPS FREE! - EuroOptic
Accuracy International Bolt Assembly Complete 308 Win including bolt/shroud assembly with 1.6mm firing pin. MPN 26547BL | Only at EuroOptic.com!
Damn you for helping me spend more of my money, lol.
I mentioned to the guy at euro optic that a guy told me he would work a deal and he gave me the same deal as you.
I ordered 2. There are 8 left, so if you want it, go for it.
Did you ask for the complete bolt above? Or just for the bolt? The bolt alone would be without the firing pin assembly
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong,
All short action AI’s use the same action. The chassis is what’s different
The early bolts 2014 and earlier had large firing pins. In 2015 models they swapped to small firing pins.
This bolt is a small firing pin complete bolt. It fits the AT, AX and ATX actions.
Mile high also has complete bolt bodies which fit the AT, AX and ATX. Euro has the firing pin assembly which is listed for AX but fits AT, AX and ATX bolts
Both also have the 1.6mm firing pins which are the SFP pins that only work in the SFP bolts and fit AT, AX and ATX
Again correct me if I’m wrong but that’s my understanding. Hell maybe this bolt only fits the AX haha. Then I’ll have to buy one of those to
You're close, however, when the AT was introduced the number of lugs on the bolt changed from 3 to 6 lugs.
Given that these bolts won't work in the AW, AE, or pre-2014 AXSA rifles.
These bolts *CAN* be used to upgrade an early AT rifle from having a LFP to a SFP bolt assembly.
Awesome thank you for clarification. My 2014 AT is a 6 lug LFP bolt and predates the 6 lug SFP bolts of 2015
My 22 ATX is a SFP 6 lug
Both bolts fit both guns excellent and only difference is the fluting on the 22 bolt
I’m assuming the bolts above (the 2 I ordered) are the same bolts as what’s in my 2022 ATX
Hoping both work in either rifle. We’ll see this week I suppose
AI appears to change bolt fluting at times. My 2014 bolt isn't fluted when chambered, however, my 2015 bolt is.
I'm guessing you'll be just fine with the new bolts. I've only heard of 1 other bolt with issues on here and I saw 1 more mentioned on Reddit from the batch of bolt assemblies that I received.
Just out of interest, if my AW bolt fails some day in the very far future, am i f*cked? Do they still produce bolts for the AW? I assume not?
I actually would like to know the answer to this as well, for academic purposes.
From what I've seen the AW is still produced for other markets so hopefully AINA has a spare parts allocation for them.
You aren't able to buy them new though in the US anywhere that I've ever seen in the last 5+ years.
Why are you guys feeling the need to buy 2 spare bolt assemblies? Even if you have 2 rifles it seems unlikely you'd have both go down at the same time and not be able to get one repaired/replaced by AI
One to convert to .535" magnum bolt face and a spare or maybe even a 223 conversion from Bugholes. Also, my 2014 AT is a LFP version so having a SFP bolt would be nice if I decide to start shooting something that requires it.
Also, getting one replaced due to something like pitting isn't all that easy as AINA customer support sucks and they aren't readily available for purchase from distributors. I've never seen this many available for purchase from EuroOptic within such a short period of time...ever.
ETA: Also, now that the AT-XC bolt is no longer compatible with the previous rifles it's like the switch from 3-lug to 6-lug bolts. Good luck finding a 3-lug bolt anywhere or even a LFP assembly for one. I think I may go ahead and order another one now actually.
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2 is 1... 1 is none... New ATX doesn't use the same bolt head...wanna make sure I got critical spares
Suddenly we've gone from "most reliable rifle in the world! 100k rounds of 308 through a 1997 AW!" to "I need 3 bolt assemblies to feel safe shooting 2000 rounds of 6 GT per year
It's the dichotomy of SH.
In one recent thread I participated in I was told that everyone should have an AI because of its robustness and its ability to withstand a 2-story drop test. Contrast that with another recent thread in which people stated you should remove your scope when removing a barrel, because a 2 foot fall will kill your ZCO.
Entertaining.
SnipersHide is slowly becoming fudd central. Turning into the AR15.com of the bolt gun world.
You used to get good advice and responses. SME’s used to frequent SH. Those days are long gone.
How many bolt failures have y’all heard about ?
I have too retro ATX. don’t need to have them be scrap
If the bolt fails
Well. Someone has gone around banning all the OGs for minor disagreements. And said “I have so many new members joining every day I don’t need the problem ones”.
So arfcom here we turn into
No, first of all, last time I talked to the rifle owner, it was up to 210K rounds.
LFPs need to be converted to SFPs occasionally. Additionally, the bolts can be used for 300 WSM conversions.
Lastly, you should know how hard an extra bolt has been to get historically.
You of anyone should know better than to make that above comment.
I keep spare bolt heads for my other rifles whenever possible. Obviously that won't happen with my TRG-42 because Beretta hates us, however, I have them for my Bighorn TL-2.
Robustness doesn't matter if you pierce primers or manage to pit your bolt face due to loose primer pockets.
Shit happens with any gun. I plan on keeping my AI's forever so spending a few dollars on some spare parts is a prudent thing to do in my eyes.
If you don't like it then don't do it...I don't really care as that should make spare parts easier to find for me.
I also plan on picking up a couple of spare triggers for my AI's since they're proprietary. Sadly, I was slow and missed those for sale in the PX a couple weeks ago so I'll wind up just buying them new at some point.
You wanna know the one good thing that is solid about the AI platform?
You could use the damn thing as a damn club/baseball bat and it would still hold zero after you got done
Who has other rifles???
I mean I have the three complete assemblies and one complete (spare) 308 bolt for my AXSR. Same reason I carry a spare trigger and three 308 mags (two match use and one spare).
If I’m at a match, I want to have a spare should something happen so I’m not out a match fee, ammo, travel, time away from family, etc.
I see no issue with carrying spare high use/critical parts.
I'm not dogging on you guys for doing this.
In fact, I think its smart, given the availability of AI parts (or lack thereof).
Sorry for my misunderstanding you in that case!
The lack of parts availability really sucks that's for sure.
I just went to try to find a trigger and it appears that EuroOptic can't buy them and MHSA is out of them so I guess I wait.
Exactly. It's not that the parts fail, it's just that given AI's track record of long backorders some people want a spare on hand so they don't have to wait 6-12+ months for a replacement part in the event AI is out of stock at the time of the failure.
I really like my AIs but it would be nice if they stocked a deeper spare parts inventory. Mile High has said they keep a decent stock of parts for service and warranty work, but that inventory is separate and not on the website for end users to purchase. (They also don't like selling individual fire control parts to end users unless you've attended the armorers class, they prefer you send the rifle or bolt in for service.)
Last time I ordered parts I had to wait almost 10 months for a couple different colors of AT and AX plastics kits, and anyone wanting LH rifles or LH bolts wishes they only had to wait 10 months, lol
I orderd 2
One will be converted to WSM to run 300 WSM
The other is a spare. These aren’t easy to find so I took advantage of it. I will always have AI’s of some flavor and having critical parts on hand is a good thing just in case.
Honestly how many people here brag about their custom builds being reliable yet carry spare triggers or bolt parts for a “just in case scenario”. Especially guys traveling long distances and paying $$ for matches.
How many NF or ZCO guys do the same then carry a spare optic or have had theirs go down and used someone else’s to finish a match.
I thought about getting my 2014 LFP bolt bushed by LRI but then that combo is married for life and any issues that may arise would likely need their assistance to fix. Now for instance if I break a firing pin or something I can just pick up a spare and it’ll fit as it’s still factory
I’ll run the 2014 it in its 308 form which is 99% of its life. But should I sell my ATX for a AXMC or another AT eventually I’ll have the spare SFP bolt to run my 260 barrel on my AT or a 6mm/6.5 barrel etc. I’ll just swap the bolt to avoid primer piercing issues. Or if I buy another early AT like I have it won’t matter what bolt it comes with as I’ll have a spare SFP for it already
It’s got nothing to do with reliability in my case. But everything can breakdown so having spare stuff isn’t a bad thing.
The prices never come down on these either. The WSM versions have sold for about $1500 on here already. So investment wise for the future I don’t think you’re loosing out should you convert it over and sell it later
Mine showed up exactly 24 hours after ordering just fyi for those buying one
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