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What is the ideal SHTF optic?

Just wondering what are all the choices being recommend, based upon? Past events you have been involved in, heard about, talked to someone who lived thru a shft or what?
Experience in the never ending war against guilty animals to include the Varmint cong

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What do you want to know I have 10 deployments and 3 fail marriages so I think I am an expert now.
You just reminded me of when I used to respond to people who said “I have been doing this for 20 years!” by saying “One year of experience twenty times isn’t the same as 20 years of experience.”

:)

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Get something that can do double duty. Something that looks innocuous if seen. Get a standard issue (for long range stuff) pencil barrel hunting rifle, and put a fixed, steel tubed weaver on that bitch. Get it zeroed at your preferred distance, and learn your holdovers in your head. Bury ammo stashes and fill out an 'under' report (cache) and be done.
That way, "its my dads hunting rifle; it's been in this house for 50 years." So in case some martial law motherfuckers start goin door to door looking for tactical shit or pullin 4473s red dawn style, you dont stand out like a bulldogs ballsack. Use basic, proven stuff. Not standing out in public, or under an inspection, should always be a key consideration.
 
Get something that can do double duty. Something that looks innocuous if seen. Get a standard issue (for long range stuff) pencil barrel hunting rifle, and put a fixed, steel tubed weaver on that bitch. Get it zeroed at your preferred distance, and learn your holdovers in your head. Bury ammo stashes and fill out an 'under' report (cache) and be done.
That way, "its my dads hunting rifle; it's been in this house for 50 years." So in case some martial law motherfuckers start goin door to door looking for tactical shit or pullin 4473s red dawn style, you dont stand out like a bulldogs ballsack. Use basic, proven stuff. Not standing out in public, or under an inspection, should always be a key consideration.

Pretty pointless.

As Katrina showed, the Uniform hangers will beat up and break arms on old ladies in their hurry to grab an old revolver quicker.

When they start coming it's time to use them or hope to stay alive in the concentration camp.
 
Pretty pointless.

As Katrina showed, the Uniform hangers will beat up and break arms on old ladies in their hurry to grab an old revolver quicker.

When they start coming it's time to use them or hope to stay alive in the concentration camp.
It's really no different than most typical civilians do. They use what they have at hand. You should already have a standard hunting rifle laying around already anyhow. I never advocated for anything extreme. A plain rifle will do.
 
Get something that can do double duty. Something that looks innocuous if seen. Get a standard issue (for long range stuff) pencil barrel hunting rifle, and put a fixed, steel tubed weaver on that bitch. Get it zeroed at your preferred distance, and learn your holdovers in your head. Bury ammo stashes and fill out an 'under' report (cache) and be done.
That way, "its my dads hunting rifle; it's been in this house for 50 years." So in case some martial law motherfuckers start goin door to door looking for tactical shit or pullin 4473s red dawn style, you dont stand out like a bulldogs ballsack. Use basic, proven stuff. Not standing out in public, or under an inspection, should always be a key consideration.
I'd much rather have my sbr with nv capable and thermal kit.
 
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