Guy on motorcycle vs guy in car..... yeah.

[hankpac]

There’s a funeral next week here in Texas for a family that was wiped out by a drunk driver, who swept his SUV into their motorcycles at high speed. Head on. Big motorcycle rally will escort the family’s remains from San Antonio to Kerrville, for services. The usual clubs. Killed father, niece and son, sent mom to intensive care.

 

[ironman56]

Illegals here don't undertand left turning arrows. Two near misses from this.

Years ago when it was safe to travel in Mexico, I was amazed to find out that the driver with the loudest horn had the right away at intersections.scared the shit out of me .

 

[NoDopes]

 

[918v]

Lemme share a phrase I have found to disarm both cops and bad guys:

“I’m sorry.”

This has gotten me out of many jams. A lane of traffic, a parking space, getting your way is just not worth it in the long run. Let ‘em win. Trust me. 20 years later you’ll be glad you did.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I had a guy raging at me because he said that he had the right of way and I should have yeilded. He was in a 2500 crew cab RAM dually and me and the wife were on my Harley. He pulled alongside me at a traffic light. The wife reached and put her hand on my concealed pistol just as I smiled at the guy and said "I'm sorry that I ruined your day. Is there anything I can do to make it better?" He continued to rant and I repeated that I really didn't want to ruin his trip to Walmart and if I could do anything to make his day better. He rolled up his window and we went our way.
A kind word is like a hot ash

 

[Rerun7]

I have a rule of thumb to not argue with strangers over anything I’m not willing to die over.

That keeps you out of a lot of trouble.

 

[NotByWorks]

Similar to “I am sorry” is a phrase I used once that got me out of ticket. I passed a cop at about 75 mph on a 60 mph freeway. He pulled me over and asked me with a good bit of attitude, “What is your problem?” I replied, “I am a dumb ass”. After he stopped laughing, he wrote me a warning.

 

[DocRDS]

First rule to winning a fight: Don't be at the fight.

So many asshats wanna throw down over trivial shit like hand guestures. Douche bag moto once tried to challenge me in my mighty sentra after I honked when he cut me off.

Bonus: No helmet.

In fairness, plenty of 4 wheel assholes as well. Just let them drive on and crash. We don't need that shit.

Also it was Texas so you know we are all packin as well.

 

[Flintdog2011]

Here's the deal. Pretend the biker was being a dick. Lane splitting, showing off, even yelling at the car driver. That is still not justification for attempted murder by means of hit-and-run collision.

Any prosecutor could say, "At what point, mister car driver, can you say that your live was in such great danger that you needed to enact harsh and possibly deadly force? The biker was in his lane and you purposely swerve into his lane.

What’s right and what’s legal aren’t always the same thing.

 

[918v]

What’s right and what’s legal aren’t always the same thing.

You think that intentionally smashing into a motorcyclist because he was acting like an asshole is right? That act could have resulted in a pileup with multiple deaths and millions in property loss.

 

[buffalowinter]

Didn't watch the video, but in and of itself:
Lane splitting or filtering is legal in the following states:
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=66c0...LWxhbmUtc3BsaXR0aW5nLXN0YXRlLW5hdGlvbi8&ntb=1

• California
• Utah
• Arizona
• Montana
• Hawaii
• Colorado
• Minnesota (beginning July 1, 2025)

Most have specific circumstances, like traffic slower than 15 mph. Except California, anything goes, welcome to the Thunderdome.

California​

This forward-thinking state has allowed motorcycles to lane-split for some time by dint of a vague "it’s not illegal" stance. In 2016, lane-splitting was made explicitly legal, making California the only state to allow it to such an extent. Yay, riding in California! Try it when you’re there; it works and it’s magical.

 

[cas6969]

You think that intentionally smashing into a motorcyclist because he was acting like an asshole is right?

Depends on what you mean by "right". In a cosmic, karma sense, yes. lol

 

[Marinevet1]

Didn't watch the video, but in and of itself:
Lane splitting or filtering is legal in the following states:
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=66c0...LWxhbmUtc3BsaXR0aW5nLXN0YXRlLW5hdGlvbi8&ntb=1

• California
• Utah
• Arizona
• Montana
• Hawaii
• Colorado
• Minnesota (beginning July 1, 2025)

Most have specific circumstances, like traffic slower than 15 mph. Except California, anything goes, welcome to the Thunderdome.

California​

This forward-thinking state has allowed motorcycles to lane-split for some time by dint of a vague "it’s not illegal" stance. In 2016, lane-splitting was made explicitly legal, making California the only state to allow it to such an extent. Yay, riding in California! Try it when you’re there; it works and it’s magical.

Open your door.............watch the fun..........

 

[Bullfrog08]

People that engage in road rage are the lowest segment of society. Dont care whose fault or who got hurt.

It's right up there with arguing on the internet.

 

[camotoe]

Life is tough, it's even tougher if you are stupid....

 

[Makinchips208]

Couple guys riding dirt bikes around town.
One riding a wheelie goes over backward, the other guy crashed over the crashed bike.
I was first on scene, happened nearly in front of me. The wheelie guy appeared to have a broken leg below the knee.

 

[JoshPutman]

 

[EddieNFL]

People that engage in road rage are the lowest segment of society. Dont care whose fault or who got hurt.

It's right up there with arguing on the internet.

 

[Devildog]

It’s best to man up and let it go then to let the rage get the best of you. Nothing good comes from it.
Locally we had two guys road rage each other they pulled into a parking lot and they shot each other, both died. Let it go and enjoy another day I say!

 

[Ronws]

That being said, I try to reduce road rage. When someone pulls a shitty move, usually in front of me, I honk my horn and show them they are number one.

However, I may be using the wrong finger.

 

[cas6969]

I almost never hock my horn, except when other people are honking at each I other. I like to return fire and confuse them. ("Why is THAT guy honking?")

 

[BCP]

I had a guy raging at me because he said that he had the right of way and I should have yeilded. He was in a 2500 crew cab RAM dually

Arizona is chock full of subhuman trash so I've had to deal with that a bunch of times, driving like an asshole is the norm here

The one saving grace of Arizona is that I can go out in the desert and shoot my guns but the democrats in phoenix are trying desperately to change that

 

[Flintdog2011]

You think that intentionally smashing into a motorcyclist because he was acting like an asshole is right? That act could have resulted in a pileup with multiple deaths and millions in property loss.

If that’s the way you want to take it, do you think someone in a car should just accept when a motorcycle swerves at them, screams and gestures, then reaches for their saddle bag? Well, I choose my life over his, every time….

 

[918v]

If that’s the way you want to take it, do you think someone in a car should just accept when a motorcycle swerves at them, screams and gestures, then reaches for their saddle bag? Well, I choose my life over his, every time….

You can’t use deadly force unless he pulls a gun from the saddle bag and the threat to your life is imminent. Gesturing toward a saddle bag is not enough. Secondly, there are other people on the road you have to think about.

 

[Rerun7]

You can’t use deadly force unless he pulls a gun from the saddle bag and the threat to your life is imminent. Gesturing toward a saddle bag is not enough. Secondly, there are other people on the road you have to think about.

See.. this is where people need to shift their paradigm. People CAN use deadly force at any moment. Most humans are emotional and irrational.

So putting yourself in a situation to let some asshat go psycho on you is in your control.

Too many people here are trying to think “legally” about the situation. Yes, the auto driver did something illegal. That’s beside the point.

If you aren’t willing to die for whatever it is that you’re arguing about then don’t put yourself in that situation.

Both of these people are at fault… de-escalation is a skill more people need to learn and practice.

 

[theLBC]

I almost never hock my horn, except when other people are honking at each I other. I like to return fire and confuse them. ("Why is THAT guy honking?")

i almost got a ticket for laying on my horn at somebody that almost caused an accident (apparently did not understand traffic circles or didn't care).
the officer saw the whole thing and while he agreed with me, apparently laying on the horn to long is frowned upon.
used to be a proponent of negative reinforcement. these days i am more forgiving. it ain't worth getting shot or something.

 

[DocRDS]

You think that intentionally smashing into a motorcyclist because he was acting like an asshole is right? That act could have resulted in a pileup with multiple deaths and millions in property loss.

I think a good comparison is walking in a crosswalk in front of a speeding semi.

The person in the cross walk has the "right" to be in the cross-walk.

They are also 100% dead. Part of being a a smart person is understanding that self-preservation is sometimes 1000% better than being "right". We live in a society of unhinged, uncultured lunatics (Have you seen congress and/or tiktok?). Caveat Emptor

 

[LeftyJason]

Open your door.............watch the fun..........

Illegal.

 

[Sandhog308]

I lived in a small town in Arkansas that didn’t have a stoplight at one time. Finally they put one at an intersection. ….Word didn’t get around to everyone I reckon ? A man and woman blew through a red light . I didn’t have time to react and my Triumph Bonneville and i T- boned a 65 Ford Galaxy 500 in the passenger door. I went up and hit the roof , then hit pavement to stop my flight. Broke numerous bones , broke front teeth out , deep abrasions all over. Had an open face Bell helmet on , cracked it bad but it probably saved my life. Ford 1 Sandhog 0 !
They used a wrecker to pull the bike out of the door , I buried it up good.
A cop told my mom if I made it past 16 it would be all gravy after that .

 

[Marinevet1]

Illegal.

And..........so is driving 5 over the posted limit

California is the only state that lane splitting is legal...........there are several states that allow motorcycles to do what is called lane filtering, but most laws state that traffic must be stopped, or moving at less than 15MPH............no laws state you can blow down between lanes of traffic at 20 or more above Interstate speeds..........

 

[LeftyJason]

And..........so is driving 5 over the posted limit

California is the only state that lane splitting is legal...........there are several states that allow motorcycles to do what is called lane filtering, but most laws state that traffic must be stopped, or moving at less than 15MPH............no laws state you can blow down between lanes of traffic at 20 or more above Interstate speeds..........

Agreed.

I live and ride in a lane filtering state.

Key Requirements for Legal Lane Filtering in Utah:

Roadway Structure: Must have two or more adjacent lanes in the same direction.

Speed Limit: Speed limit must be 45 mph or less.

Traffic Status: The vehicle being overtaken must be stopped.

Motorcycle Speed: Motorcycle speed must be 15 mph or less.

Safe Conditions: The maneuver must be executed safely.

Important Considerations:

Liability:
Any contact during lane filtering is the liability of the motorcyclist, unless a vehicle door is opened in their path.

Lane Splitting:
Lane splitting (moving between moving vehicles) is not legal in Utah.

 

[Im2bent]

I live in Cali and I ride. I always get a chuckle when traffic is going 80 and a guy on a bike blows by lane splitting at a `100+. I just sing as he disappears "You gonna die......"

 

[EddieNFL]

I live in Cali and I ride. I always get a chuckle when traffic is going 80 and a guy on a bike blows by lane splitting at a `100+. I just sing as he disappears "You gonna die......"

‘88 or “89 I watched a 21 y/o kill himself running from the cops. Over 100 in a 35. Young girl was turning out of a parking lot when he t-boned the front end. Flew about 100 feet before a building interrupted his flight.

There was a right curve about 100 yards from the scene. He wasn’t in sight when the girl started her turn. Interviews with his friends brought out the “cager” comments.

Cop chasing him said he intended to warn him.