Guess we will know in the morning? *update*

[JR_77]

So is still on the NFA? What a joke. If so its a 99% loss. The hoops and BS and legal sht you have to go through and then the fines and penalties if not I couldnt care less about the $200. Its all the other BS that is the problem. Needs to be OFF the NFA. If they want to classify it as a firearm no problem, that would assure it cant be banned, and if I have to get a background check at a gun store to buy one thats fine. And I can make one myself with no serial just like a firearm. Thats fine.... Amending just to get rid of the $200..... they can shove that up their ......

It’s off the NFA and the $200 tax has been removed due to the Byrd rule (aka KKK grand wizard).
It will be classified as a firearm requiring a form 4473.

Still has to go thru the senate and signed by DJT. By using budget reconciliation to add the HPA the republicans avoided the senate filibuster and will require a simple majority to move out of the senate. Vance will be the tiebreaker.

 

[doubloon]

So is still on the NFA?

Nevermind, I'm an idiot

didn't click the link next to the amendment

https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/Cloud_Amendment - SHUSH Act250520203539893.pdf

 

[Redmanss]

There will still very much be a market for high end and high quality suppressors.

This. The plethora of sub $500 AR builders out there haven’t put KAC out of business yet, and never will.

 

[JR_77]

BREAKING: House Passes Bill To Remove Suppressors From NFA - American Suppressor Association

WASHINGTON, DC – Early this morning, the House passed the amended reconciliation bill – including the FULL REMOVAL of suppressors from the NFA – by a 215-214 vote! This follows the American Suppressor Association’s efforts in leading a coalition of nearly 40 pro-Second Amendment organizations...

americansuppressorassociation.com

Passed the house with a 215 to 214 vote. That was close.

 

[Mongo68]

I’m sure they will still be outlawed here in KA. Someone please enjoy pseudo freedom on my behalf…

 

[doubloon]

BREAKING: House Passes Bill To Remove Suppressors From NFA - American Suppressor Association

WASHINGTON, DC – Early this morning, the House passed the amended reconciliation bill – including the FULL REMOVAL of suppressors from the NFA – by a 215-214 vote! This follows the American Suppressor Association’s efforts in leading a coalition of nearly 40 pro-Second Amendment organizations...

americansuppressorassociation.com

Passed the house with a 215 to 214 vote. That was close.

Nevermind, I'm an idiot

didn't click the link next to the amendment

https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/Cloud_Amendment%20-%20SHUSH%20Act250520203539893.pdf

 

[lash]

Yes you are going to have junk come into the market for someone that is trying to make a buck.

And there will still be plenty of market for the low end product, just like there is for low end firearms. But as already pointed out, the high end manufacturers should do fine.

 

[VandelayIndustries]

So in the states where they are currently illegal what happens? I’m assuming they stay illegal but the penalty is no longer a felony? Maybe trumps doj will pursue this under the civil liberties like they’re talking about doing with awb bans and magazines bans? Opens the door to easier court challenges?

 

[anon]

RXD30Ti Suppressor

 

[NoDopes]

So, how long do we have to wait to see if it passes in the Senate?

 

[MO Fugga]

BREAKING: House Passes Bill To Remove Suppressors From NFA - American Suppressor Association

WASHINGTON, DC – Early this morning, the House passed the amended reconciliation bill – including the FULL REMOVAL of suppressors from the NFA – by a 215-214 vote! This follows the American Suppressor Association’s efforts in leading a coalition of nearly 40 pro-Second Amendment organizations...

americansuppressorassociation.com

Passed the house with a 215 to 214 vote. That was close.

One of those cocksuckers fell asleep during the vote!

 

[NoDopes]

Answering my own question....

• Senate Amendments: Senators, including some Republicans, have indicated they will seek substantial changes to the bill. This suggests a potentially lengthy debate and amendment process in the Senate.

 

[JR_77]

So, how long do we have to wait to see if it passes in the Senate?

Last I read is they wanted the house bill done by Memorial Day weekend and the senate to be done before July 2-3. Trump will sign right before July 4th.

 

[Landon4]

Last I read is they wanted the house bill done by Labor Day weekend and the senate to be done before July 2-3. Trump will sign right before July 4th.

I read the same

 

[Redmanss]

Last I read is they wanted the house bill done by Labor Memorial Day weekend and the senate to be done before July 2-3. Trump will sign right before July 4th.

FIFY. House target was Memorial Day.

Murkowski and Collins are likely the worst on the RINO side to sacrifice this measure on the Senate version.

 

[JR_77]

FIFY. House target was Memorial Day.

Murkowski and Collins are likely the worst on the RINO side to sacrifice this measure on the Senate version.

Yes Memorial Day it’s corrected thanks.

Murkowski and Collins I’m sure will vote no plus the turtle McConnell so that would be 50/50 with Vance as the tiebreaker.

I don’t think Cornyn will vote no as he is getting primaried and attacked to his right by AG Paxton so don’t believe Cornyn would risk voting against Trumps Big Beautiful Bill it would cement his primary loss for sure in Texas. Cornyn’s a democrat but he’s not that stupid.

 

[Mean_Man]

It’s off the NFA and the $200 tax has been removed due to the Byrd rule (aka KKK grand wizard).
It will be classified as a firearm requiring a form 4473.

Still has to go thru the senate and signed by DJT. By using budget reconciliation to add the HPA the republicans avoided the senate filibuster and will require a simple majority to move out of the senate. Vance will be the tiebreaker.

Keeping it legally a firearm is allegedly to keep them under 2A protection. I get the logic but the actual problem is California and similar states would go after them if they weren’t under the 2A for sure. At least this way there’s some reasonable defense against their infringements of the people’s rights.

 

[Redmanss]

Yes Memorial Day it’s corrected thanks.

Murkowski and Collins I’m sure will vote no plus the turtle McConnell so that would be 50/50 with Vance as the tiebreaker.

I don’t think Cornyn will vote no as he is getting primaried and attacked to his right by AG Paxton so don’t believe Cornyn would risk voting against Trumps Big Beautiful Bill it would cement his primary loss for sure in Texas. Cornyn’s a democrat but he’s not that stupid.

McBitch is certainly a wild card in this one.

The biggest problem for it is Collins is the chair of the Appropriations Committee plus Murkowski and McBitch are both on it as well. That’s a major threat for it to be stripped in committee and never hit the floor vote. I still give it <3% survival chance.

 

[JR_77]

Keeping it legally a firearm is allegedly to keep them under 2A protection. I get the logic but the actual problem is California and similar states would go after them if they weren’t under the 2A for sure. At least this way there’s some reasonable defense against their infringements of the people’s rights.

I’m no attorney but that’s the legal theory they are espousing.

 

[NoDopes]

I mean... there's legal theory... then there examples like Illinois banning AR15s for years while it's tied up in courts despite being clearly unconstitutional directly called out by the SC.

 

[Im2bent]

McBitch is certainly a wild card in this one.

The biggest problem for it is Collins is the chair of the Appropriations Committee plus Murkowski and McBitch are both on it as well. That’s a major threat for it to be stripped in committee and never hit the floor vote. I still give it <3% survival chance.

If Trump wants this bad enough he'll make a backroom deal with those scumbags and get it through . Nothing like some pork to grease the wheels of American politics.

 

[MO Fugga]

Isn't Rand Paul a No because a debt ceiling hike?

 

[lash]

Isn't Rand Paul a No because a debt ceiling hike?

I didn’t ask him…

 

[hlee]

Hot take… HPA and $0 tax were included as sacrificial cows, easily jettisoned to appease someone and save the rest of the bill.

 

[lash]

Sadly, you may not be far off. The art of the deal means you have to be willing to give up something to get something. Therefore always ask for more than necessary or wanted.

 

[748rpilot]

I mean... there's legal theory... then there examples like Illinois banning AR15s for years while it's tied up in courts despite being clearly unconstitutional directly called out by the SC.

AR15s, AKs, SKS with detachable mags, pistols that accept a magazine anywhere but the grip (think Flux Raider), pistols with threaded barrels, any semi-auto with a pistol grip (including shotguns), thumb hole or folding stock, any 50 BMG, any semi-auto rifle with a flash suppressor, any semi-auto rifle with a fixed magazine greater than 10 rounds, any belt-fed semi-auto and now they are working on banning all Glocks specifically.

They're totally not coming for our guns though.

 

[JR_77]

The biggest problem for it is Collins is the chair of the Appropriations Committee plus Murkowski and McBitch are both on it as well.

I read that Collins was the chair but didn’t know the other two were all on the same committee.

Does Elaine Chao need to be an ambassador somewhere in the Mediterranean along the Amalfi coastline?

Trump scratched Mitch’s back in his first term maybe it will happen again?

 

[clcustom1911]

So IMO you are going to see quality go up. Right now the only suppliers are the ones who have done the licensing to manufacture them. Gun people are assuming the present companies are making the best product available. I believe when you open it up to any manufacturer you are going to see better ways, more innovative ideas and higher quality from larger companies with better tooling.

Also with competition prices will lower and selection will increase. Yes you are going to have junk come into the market for someone that is trying to make a buck.

Yup. Look at the optics, precision rifle, and AR industry the last 10-15 years. Absolute explosion.

 

[clcustom1911]

If Trump wants this bad enough he'll make a backroom deal with those scumbags and get it through . Nothing like some pork to grease the wheels of American politics.

8,000,000,000$ more to israel.

 

[Mean_Man]

8,000,000,000$ more to israel.

I’m a lot more okay with that than to Ukraine