One Big Beautiful Bill Passes the House!

[Fx51LP308]

Vote was 215 - 214. Passed by one vote! There was one GOP vote for "Present" and 2 GOPs who didn't vote. Two GOP RINOs voted no.

Now, onto the Senate for whatever Mayhem they can muster....

 

[Charmingmander]

Did Massey vote no? because if he did, he is far from a rhino.

 

[hlee]

“Hey House. That sure is a cute bill you passed. Sure would be a shame if someone shredded it.” The Senate. Allegedly…

 

[sloporsche]

while i did not read the bill lets hope its fair for all of us

 

[Fx51LP308]

Did Massey vote no? because if he did, he is far from a rhino.

Yes, Massey and Davidson were the two who voted directly against it. Not sure who the "present" voter was nor the two who didn't vote.

Massey may not be a RINO, but the problem is we can't allow the Dems any wiggle room whatsoever to get back into power, nor can we see our taxes go sky high. I know Massey and the like want to see more cuts as do I, but this may involve a few baby steps. The "greater good" is getting the One Big Beautiful Bill passed, and Massey & Co put that at risk.

 

[darkfader]

You won’t be able to count on my worthless senator. At. All. Capito may have an R behind her name but she is full on dem. Not even RINO, full fucking D.

 

[want to be]

Is it true that there is talk of a no tax stamp on suppressor in the bill?

 

[darkfader]

Is it true that there is talk of a no tax stamp on suppressor in the bill?

Check here:

Guess we will know in the morning? *update*

Well?

www.snipershide.com

 

[Fx51LP308]

Is it true that there is talk of a no tax stamp on suppressor in the bill?

According to Jarred of "Guns & Gadgets," the full Hearing Protection Act was included in the Big Beautiful Bill and was passed. The SHORT act was not. But they're trying to see if they can get a Senator to add an amendment to the Bill to bring back the SHORT act. We'll see.

 

[want to be]

Thanks, that was some reading.

 

[Seed tick]

Sure would be nice if they would end taxes on Social Security

 

[Landon4]

Not sure on social security but from the way I understand it the overtime tax is kind of a joke it’s a deduction at the end of the year, for single under $160k I believe it’s a $10k deduction and married under $200k it’s a $20k deduction, I was looking forward to that because I work 20 days out of the month and usually have 70-80 ot hrs on my check. If you make more than $200k married you don’t even get it.

 

[akmike47]

Oh good a 3rd thread on this bill, someone start another

 

[Pharmseller]

Sure would be nice if they would end taxes on Social Security

Most states don’t tax SS.




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[Fx51LP308]

Most states don’t tax SS.




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No, but the Feds will still tax social security benefits if your "other income" exceeds a certain threshold. It's a crazy formula. Furthermore, one still has to pay FICA tax on the "other income" earned. Not sure which of these the bill was supposed to address, but...

 

[roostercogburn98]

Oh good a 3rd thread on this bill, someone start another

Dare me homey

 

[akmike47]

Dare me homey

No balls

 

[Deadfall]

While I'm glad many of the items in the bill have passed the House, I thought conservatives were against giant bills containing every item under the sun. Weren't we promised by this House Speaker small, streamlined bills with direct focus on single spending/tax issues vs a bill of 1,000 pages or more that was certainly not read by all members of Congress before voting?

Someone like Massey who voted "no" on conservative principles is not a RINO.

 

[ZiaHunter]

The Social Security deduction for Seniors is complete bullshit. A big fucking nothing burger. These scumbags hate working people and they fucking prove it every day. The tax on social security should be eliminated in its entirety.

 

[akg102]

The Social Security deduction for Seniors is complete bullshit. A big fucking nothing burger. These scumbags hate working people and they fucking prove it every day. The tax on social security should be eliminated in its entirety.

Social security shouldn’t exist in the first place.

 

[Deadfall]

SALT deduction is terrible. Why should the Fed Gov allow for tax deductions on money paid in the form of state and local taxes? You want to live in a high tax area, don't ask the rest of the federal taxpayers to allow a deduction for your wanting high taxes. There should be consequences for living in high tax areas and one of those consequences shouldn't be getting the rest of us to pay for your way of life.

 

[Chrsclnngr]

This bill is nowhere near what we were promised, what we voted for. Massie is definitely not a RINO. I would say all the republicans that did vote for it could be RINOs because there is so much more that should have been done and the Republicans squandered the opportunity!!

 

[Buck Wilde]

Saving $200 on a can would be great, but I would rather keep silencers in the NFA and stop paying tax on my taxes. I must be behind the curve, but I cannot understand why Republicans are against the property tax deduction. The House increased the deduction, but it should be 100%.

 

[akmike47]

Saving $200 on a can would be great, but I would rather keep silencers in the NFA and stop paying tax on my taxes. I must be behind the curve, but I cannot understand why Republicans are against the property tax deduction. The House increased the deduction, but it should be 100%.

8 words there make your opinion not matter

 

[Seed tick]

Please explain

 

[The D]

What other absolutely heinous shit is hiding in this? Semi serious question, I’m sure it’s bloated with a bunch of fucking garbage

 

[BCP]

According to Jarred of "Guns & Gadgets," the full Hearing Protection Act was included in the Big Beautiful Bill and was passed. The SHORT act was not. But they're trying to see if they can get a Senator to add an amendment to the Bill to bring back the SHORT act. We'll see.

That would be dumb because it'll be hard to get it through the house for another vote

TBH it will be a miracle if it passes the Senate as-is because of all the dumb cunts up in there

Massie is definitely not a RINO

He's not a rino but he is a retard.

 

[Charmingmander]

That would be dumb because it'll be hard to get it through the house for another vote

TBH it will be a miracle if it passes the Senate as-is because of all the dumb cunts up in there


He's not a rino but he is a retard.

Yeah the man is so retarded. Having principles is totally retarded.

 

[Longshot231]

Phone numbers included below:



Senator Steve Danes: 202-224-2651
Senator Ted Cruz: 202-224-5922
Senator Mike Crapo: 202-224-6142
Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

 

[Buck Wilde]

8 words there make your opinion not matter

Those taxes are pretty hard on career landlords. Imagine buying a product, paying a heavy sales tax, selling for a modest profit, and then having Uncle Sam tell you the sales tax was also profit. That's what it's like. A lot of landlords are paying more in property taxes than most people earn, and then Uncle Sam says, "You know all that money you gave your state, which you no longer have? Give me a big chunk of it."

Come to think of it, I also pay sales tax on rent received.

 

[SilentStalkr]

While I'm glad many of the items in the bill have passed the House, I thought conservatives were against giant bills containing every item under the sun. Weren't we promised by this House Speaker small, streamlined bills with direct focus on single spending/tax issues vs a bill of 1,000 pages or more that was certainly not read by all members of Congress before voting?

Someone like Massey who voted "no" on conservative principles is not a RINO.

What other absolutely heinous shit is hiding in this? Semi serious question, I’m sure it’s bloated with a bunch of fucking garbage

You don’t want to know. It smells bad and the more you look the worse it smells. They know what they are doing. They playing chess while everyone else playing checkers.

 

[akmike47]

Those taxes are pretty hard on career landlords. Imagine buying a product, paying a heavy sales tax, selling for a modest profit, and then having Uncle Sam tell you the sales tax was also profit. That's what it's like. A lot of landlords are paying more in property taxes than most people earn, and then Uncle Sam says, "You know all that money you gave your state, which you no longer have? Give me a big chunk of it."

Come to think of it, I also pay sales tax on rent received.

There you go being stupid again, “ I would rather keep silencers in the NFA”. I read the first two words of this, quit reading, and knew I didn’t give a shit immediately.

 

[CMP70306]

SALT deduction is terrible. Why should the Fed Gov allow for tax deductions on money paid in the form of state and local taxes? You want to live in a high tax area, don't ask the rest of the federal taxpayers to allow a deduction for your wanting high taxes. There should be consequences for living in high tax areas and one of those consequences shouldn't be getting the rest of us to pay for your way of life.

That was the purpose of caping it at $10,000 the first time, to get the people to vote out the fuckers that were taxing them so much.

Turns out people are fucking stupid and it didn’t work since they blamed the Republicans and voted harder democrat as a result. This is the republicans trying to gain some of those people back.

 

[Chrsclnngr]

Phone numbers included below:



Senator Steve Danes: 202-224-2651
Senator Ted Cruz: 202-224-5922
Senator Mike Crapo: 202-224-6142
Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

And add Senator John Cornyn 202-239-1310; Tell him that his only hope of getting reelected is to right the wrong he has done to 2A community. In order to right the wrong he must start by demanding that the SHORT Act be included in the reconciliation bill!

Also hit up all of their X (Twitter) feeds!

 

[Longshot231]

And add Senator John Cornyn 202-239-1310; Tell him that his only hope of getting reelected is to right the wrong he has done to 2A community. In order to right the wrong he must start by demanding that the SHORT Act be included in the reconciliation bill!

Also hit up all of their X (Twitter) feeds!

Excellent idea!

 

[BCP]

If the short act gets in it my prediction is that it dies in the House (if it's amended they have to vote again as part of conciliation iirc) and they will pass another continuing resolution instead. It narrowly went through the last time.

Yeah the man is so retarded. Having principles is totally retarded.

He voted no on this, if we get suppressors/short act it will be in spite of his principles. See that's why "Small Government Principled Conservatives" never actually get anything done. They're the same con artists as other politicians just with a different shtick.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Saving $200 on a can would be great, but I would rather keep silencers in the NFA and stop paying tax on my taxes.

That sounds like you’re saying you don’t mind getting bent over, as long as the guy behind you says he doesn’t really like doing it, so he gets no joy from it.

 

[Longshot231]

Saving $200 on a can would be great, but I would rather keep silencers in the NFA and stop paying tax on my taxes. I must be behind the curve, but I cannot understand why Republicans are against the property tax deduction. The House increased the deduction, but it should be 100%.

8 words there make your opinion not matter

That sounds like you’re saying you don’t mind getting bent over, as long as the guy behind you says he doesn’t really like doing it, so he gets no joy from it.

Translation: "I'm for the 2nd Amendment but..."

 

[Buck Wilde]

I wonder how little property tax you pay. When it passes the average gross income for a family of 4, it starts to smart.

 

[Fx51LP308]

I wonder how little property tax you pay. When it passes the average gross income for a family of 4, it starts to smart.

When I lived in the PRNJ, it was the highest property tax possible and much higher, 10 years after my departure.. Here in FL, property tax is a whole lot lower, and we have no income tax.. I attribute this to a couple of different factors.

First, the 2025 population of the PRNJ is around 9,622,060. FL is 23.8 million. Most of the people are working in the PRNJ (although I do recall when the PRNJ didn't have an income tax either). Most of the people in FL are retired (and not producing "earned income") but they do own property. Hence, no income tax in FL (yet) but there is a property tax. And I think that more Floridians own single family properties with land than in the PRNJ, where it's a much smaller land area than FL and most people live in rental units. Yes, the land owners pay the property tax but that's a much smaller marginal percentage than in FL Hence the lower tax rate.

 

[Buck Wilde]

My feeling is that I am already on a federal registry, I already paid the ATF tax I'll never get back, and I will survive if it takes another couple of years to get silencers off the NFA. I'm confident it will happen soon even if they blow it this time. But I would like to quit paying income tax on my property tax after paying rental tax right now. Paying tax on money I never saw seems crazy to me, and when the reason I never saw it is that I paid it in tax, it's even crazier.

I used to pay 3.5% in sales tax on commercial rentals, plus property tax, plus income tax on the sales and property tax. Thankfully, DeSantis has cut the sales tax way down.

It's not uncommon at all for landlords to pay $100K+ in property tax. It gets to the point where the government takes so much of your income, it has become your business partner.

If this were about something with a bigger effect, like mandatory reciprocal carry, I'd probably prefer the gun law reform to the tax reform.

 

[JR_77]

Saving $200 on a can would be great, but I would rather keep silencers in the NFA and stop paying tax on my taxes. I must be behind the curve, but I cannot understand why Republicans are against the property tax deduction. The House increased the deduction, but it should be 100%.

Trump wanted the SALT deductions limited hoping democrat governors would lower taxes based on residents screaming about high property taxes but don’t think that has happened.

 

[NoDopes]

. It gets to the point where the government takes so much of your income, it has become your business partner.

The Mafia called it a protection tax.

 

[supercorndogs]

My feeling is that I am already on a federal registry, I already paid the ATF tax I'll never get back, and I will survive if it takes another couple of years to get silencers off the NFA. I'm confident it will happen soon even if they blow it this time. But I would like to quit paying income tax on my property tax after paying rental tax right now. Paying tax on money I never saw seems crazy to me, and when the reason I never saw it is that I paid it in tax, it's even crazier.

I used to pay 3.5% in sales tax on commercial rentals, plus property tax, plus income tax on the sales and property tax. Thankfully, DeSantis has cut the sales tax way down.

It's not uncommon at all for landlords to pay $100K+ in property tax. It gets to the point where the government takes so much of your income, it has become your business partner.

If this were about something with a bigger effect, like mandatory reciprocal carry, I'd probably prefer the gun law reform to the tax reform.

You say all this as though the bill hinges on the HPA. I don't think it would be accurate to say the HPA is the driving force for this bill. I would say we are getting the bill wheather we like it or not.

 

[Buck Wilde]

We could get screwed on both issues. That would feel normal.

 

[lroseen]

You say all this as though the bill hinges on the HPA. I don't think it would be accurate to say the HPA is the driving force for this bill. I would say we are getting the bill wheather we like it or not.

You would be correct, there is SOME good in the bill, but as a whole it’s just more over spending and garbage per status quo of the last century!

As a whole this bill should be voted down, seeing as they will pass a similar version regardless, I say let’s just get the HPA through! Though they should amend it to fully deregulate suppressors and pre-empt states from banning them. Ideally they should state in the bill that suppressors are arms and fully protected by the 2A.

 

[Fx51LP308]

You would be correct, there is SOME good in the bill, but as a whole it’s just more over spending and garbage per status quo of the last century!

As a whole this bill should be voted down, seeing as they will pass a similar version regardless, I say let’s just get the HPA through! Though they should amend it to fully deregulate suppressors and pre-empt states from banning them. Ideally they should state in the bill that suppressors are arms and fully protected by the 2A.

What about Pres. Trump's "permanent" Tax Cuts? They're in there as well, aren't they?

 

[lroseen]

What about Pres. Trump's "permanent" Tax Cuts? They're in there as well, aren't they?

Like I said there is SOME good in the bill. But as a whole it’s just more of the over spending big government status quo. It’s unsustainable. Trumps doing a lot of good, but we absolutely NEED to cut spending. That can’t happen in any significant way until both Trump and the Legislature are willing to get rid of entire departments and most importantly drastically cut Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. Realistically Social Security needs an entire overhaul.

 

[NoDopes]

I recall CBO stating as much as 40% of entitlements are fraud. Too that with a massive amount of government spending with NGO kickbacks.. why the fuck haven't they been able to do more. USAID was just the start and aren't they still funding that shit in this bill?

 

[Longshot231]