Savage 110 Scout vs Ruger American Ranch in 450 Bushmaster

[MMH]

Need to pick up a rifle for Ohio deer hunting so going w/ 450 Bushmaster as cartridge. Between Savage 110 Scout vs Ruger American Ranch which is better. Obviously not expecting a great stock but really don't like flimsy stocks. Leaning towards Savage but do not have a good reason. Any other rifles that I should consider? Not set on bolt action - how would a Ruger AR-556 compare?

Would hope to get 1 to 2 moa at 250 yards in field conditions. Can these rifles achieve that?

 

[nagantguy]

The Ruger American can- I also hated the flimsy stock - but it shoots , farthest shot to date a lazed 187 yards . Bang three or 4 stumbling jumps and down he went .

I have the gen one and first thing I did was polish the bolt and now it runs smoothly and quietly.

I’d say either will more then serve your needs - they are not precision premium rifles they are rack grade box store rifles that shoot fairly well and start at a price point that buying another stock or changing the trigger isn’t a big deal.

 

[Fearless Maroon Harpy]

Apparently people have issues with Savage, I've always loved mine. My $350 12fv in 6.5 Creedmoor shoots absolutely lights out groups with lighter factory ammo.

That being said, extraction/ejection issues are a real thing with Savages, mine has it and I still haven't managed to get it fixed.

 

[Turkeytider]

Have a Savage 110 Storm in .223. Several hundred rounds, never once failed to extract or eject. That’s just a sample of one, however. If you have an opportunity to cycle rounds before buying, that would be ideal. In general, with Savage rifles, one thing you don’t have to worry about is whether or not it’ll put metal on target.
My Model 12 LRPV, which is a higher end, AKA more expensive, model has 2K rounds through it and has yet to fail to extract and eject, and does so with authority.

 

[Fearless Maroon Harpy]

Have a Savage 110 Storm in .223. Several hundred rounds, never once failed to extract or eject. That’s just a sample of one, however. If you have an opportunity to cycle rounds before buying, that would be ideal. In general, with Savage rifles, one thing you don’t have to worry about is whether or not it’ll put metal on target.
My Model 12 LRPV, which is a higher end, AKA more expensive, model has 2K rounds through it and has yet to fail to extract and eject, and does so with authority.

Yeah my 12FV originally did not do a great job on the ejection part. Working with some Kinney's aftermarket parts to try and fix it.

That being said, I want to reiterate that I like the rifle. The accuracy for a $350 gun out of the box was jaw dropping.

 

[anon]

Ruger American Ranch, far better action. Also the Ruger is listed as 1-16 and the Savage is listed as 1-24.

Yeah, I've got both Savage and Ruger American rifles.

Ruger offering the Ranch in 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor makes for what would be a nice inexpensive throwdown hunting rifle for around here.

 

[shoots100]

Need to pick up a rifle for Ohio deer hunting so going w/ 450 Bushmaster as cartridge. Between Savage 110 Scout vs Ruger American Ranch which is better. Obviously not expecting a great stock but really don't like flimsy stocks. Leaning towards Savage but do not have a good reason. Any other rifles that I should consider? Not set on bolt action - how would a Ruger AR-556 compare?

Would hope to get 1 to 2 moa at 250 yards in field conditions. Can these rifles achieve that?

Don't have one but after reading the specs and field reports from those that do I'd go with the Savage because of the better stock adjustment, magazine reliability and accuracy.
The Scout is heavier than the Ranch rifle if weight is a consideration.
SJC

 

[MMH]

Is the ruger action better? The Ruger is less expensive by about $300. What about buying the Ruger & putting on a B&C stock? Or for that matter, semi-autos are legal in OH - what about a Ruger AR-556. Not as convenient to carry, but it's not like I'll be stalking. Get to a blind & wait...

 

[shoots100]

The Ruger American action isn't the better M77 action with controlled feed.
You need to decide on what type of firearm is best for you.
If you already have an AR, you could buy a 450BM upper and a few magazines and have them shipped to your abode.
Plenty of used 450BM rifles out there too.
SJC

 

[MMH]

What about the Ruger Gunsite Scout? It is based on the M77 action. How accurate is this rifle? The walnut stock would feel good but not sure if it is free floated.

 

[BenW]

When I had a Ruger M77 the barrel wasn’t free floated. They left a “pressure pad” of wood at the front of the stock that would contact the barrel.

 

[BenW]

If I were buying a new budget rifle today, I would go with the Ruger American Gen 2 over the Savage. That’s even though I have a Savage 10 FCPSR that shoots great, and I haven’t had extraction or ejection issues. The only problem I had with the Savage when new is that the scope rail was loose and the front screw threads were stripped from the factory. The Ruger American Gen 1 I had was perfectly functional and shot well. There were some sharp edges on the metal and the receiver was internally rough, so the bolt had a zipper sound until i polished it, after which it was super smooth.

 

[longridgehunter]

Have both of these rifles in 450BM and they shoot equally well. Both obviously have chincy stocks. If you're not dead set on these take a look at the CVA cascade xt. I also have it in 450BM, shoots phenomenal, and the stock is nicer.

 

[Ringbill27]

I’ve had both savage and ruger. I sold off all my savages and went with ruger Americans.

I prefer the triggers and the action of the ruger over the savage. I carry my 7.62x39 every year.

As for the the stock. The flimsiness has never bothered me because the Americans just shoot well. I was just out at the 500yd range with my 5.56 ranch and was printing 6”ish groups. And this was with the factory stock and the sun in my eyes.

The 450BM is a short range thumper in my eyes and the factory stock would work just fine for me and my intended use for the American Ranch in 450BM if I was were buy one. I’d go 350legend first.

 

[MMH]

The 450BM is a short range thumper in my eyes and the factory stock would work just fine for me and my intended use for the American Ranch in 450BM if I was were buy one. I’d go 350legend first.

Why the 350 ? I know that the 450 can do more meat damage but if I want to shoot subsonic then I would need the 450. Or, is hunting with subsonic rounds at 200 yds an exercise in futility?

 

[MMH]

Have both of these rifles in 450BM and they shoot equally well. Both obviously have chincy stocks. If you're not dead set on these take a look at the CVA cascade xt. I also have it in 450BM, shoots phenomenal, and the stock is nicer.

What about the ruger 450 scout? M77 action & walnut stock. Not free floated but should not be flimsy. But, does it shoot?

Also, what about an AR-556. Not adverse to an AR for this if it shoots.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

350 legend is a better cartridge overall and Euro Optic had some Tikkas on clearance for about the same price as what you’re looking it. I’m not typically a Tikka fan but it’s a hell of a lot better option than the other two options and available in 350 legend.

 

[Ringbill27]

Why the 350 ? I know that the 450 can do more meat damage but if I want to shoot subsonic then I would need the 450. Or, is hunting with subsonic rounds at 200 yds an exercise in futility?

When I compare the two cartridges the 350 wins in terms of ammo cost and availability, recoil, bullet drop, smaller cans available. They are both short range deer cartridges. And deer… well they do not need Thors hammer hitting them to die quickly.

Don’t get me wrong tho the 450 will whack them, but for the reason above I’d grab the Ruger American ranch (which I have one in 556 and 7.62x39) in 350. Screw a 35cal can on and hunt. Actually that Tikka mentioned by @redneckbmxer24 would be the real option as I’ve been whiching to tikka.

I don’t need to be whisper quiet so subs aren’t something I’d consider hunting with. Plus wouldn’t subsonic 450s at 200yds be like lobbing artillery out there. There is subsonic 350 out there as well. Not sure if it’s really hunting ammo.

PS. The 7.62x39 Ruger mentioned above is my grab every time deer rifle. Killed many so far.