Calypso - Quantum - kestrel - HUD Bluetooth Hokey Pokey

[unclemoak]

I recently switched to pairing a Calypso Mini AB to Quantum as a means to more accurately predict and manage wind calls for ELR and PRS type matches.

It seems like a Bluetooth nightmare to:

1. Pair the calypso to quantum to get your wind and update your range card (sector)

2. Disconnect the calypso and pair the kestrel 5700 to export the range card

3. Disconnect your phone, then pair with the HUD to update the range card on the gun.

4. Do it all over again for the next stage.


Is there a better way to do this? Seems like the ability to go straight from Quantum to the HUD would be ideal or at least the ability to connect to multiple devices at the same time like you can in GeoBallistics.

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[Long Range 338]

If you pay for the Pro version you can build up the sectors within Quantum and not need the Kestrel.

 

[unclemoak]

If you pay for the Pro version you can build up the sectors within Quantum and not need the Kestrel.

I have the pro version and do build out sectors. Unfortunately I haven’t found a way to transfer them to the HUD without having to go through the kestrel first.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

The Kestrel HUD is not in the AB Ecosystem, so it does not share Comms with AB Quantum is what he is saying.

Currently the way you are doing it, is the best method.

 

[vanrichten]

I truly love AB Quantum. It is by far the best ballistics solver I have used bar none. My complaint is with the ecosystem, the same ecosystem that originally pulled me into the AB world. The 1 at a time connection to AB Q is a massive bottleneck and makes the entire system a pain in the ass.

I get that originally there was a Kestrel and a Range Finder and they both connected to a Garmin Foretrex. The technical and shooting world has progressed very far beyond that now. Only having 1 device connected to the phone is a limitation that is obviously causing problems. Bluetooth can have dozens of simultaneous connections. In this case, AB is enforcing that bottleneck. Not the phone or technology.

I REALLY hope the 10+ year old view of 1 connection at a time is revisited by AB.

 

[jNCgUN]

When ABQ first came out, I thought it would be the central hub—the brain—while all other devices would act as peripherals, just feeding data into ABQ, which would handle the solving. But that’s not how it turned out. And like you said, it’s not a tech limitation—it’s policy. I get it though—if ABQ became the hub, it could make Kestrel obsolete, and the folks at AB and Kestrel are probably all shooting buddies
Maybe it’s time to explore app development.

 

[vanrichten]

That is exactly how it SHOULD work. I mean you can connect an LRF and a Kestrel to a Garmin device at the same time. There is literally zero reason you shouldn’t be able to do the same thing on a phone.

As I said, I love AB Q, but there are a number of very simple things that you can’t do. Quick example is you can’t rename a device in the app. But since you can only have one freaking thing connected at once, I guess it ultimately doesn’t matter.

 

[DocUSMCRetired]

That is exactly how it SHOULD work. I mean you can connect an LRF and a Kestrel to a Garmin device at the same time. There is literally zero reason you shouldn’t be able to do the same thing on a phone.

As I said, I love AB Q, but there are a number of very simple things that you can’t do. Quick example is you can’t rename a device in the app. But since you can only have one freaking thing connected at once, I guess it ultimately doesn’t matter.

It is actually pretty complex to get something like this working on a phone. It's not as easy as a day of coding.

 

[vanrichten]

It is actually pretty complex to get something like this working on a phone. It's not as easy as a day of coding.

Coming from the IT world, I fully understand it's not a super easy process. But as an end user, having the same capabilities on the phone as exists on the Garmin is highly desirable. Having all of the devices at once is a super nice to have, but having at the very least the weather/kestrel/calypso along with whatever range finder connected at the same time is almost mandatory.

 

[unclemoak]

Coming from the IT world, I fully understand it's not a super easy process. But as an end user, having the same capabilities on the phone as exists on the Garmin is highly desirable. Having all of the devices at once is a super nice to have, but having at the very least the weather/kestrel/calypso along with whatever range finder connected at the same time is almost mandatory.

I agree. While I can understand it’s tons of work to get there, I think it should be the end goal.

For casual long range shooting, peeking at your phone seems reasonable, but I think in an ELR / PRS stage situation, having everything update in real time on your gun mounted HUD would be awesome.