When does the winning start?
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Figured you were a boomer
It's pretty funny how all the old fox news guys have TDS..
I don't believe any politician is a savior, and Trump is far from perfect, but holy hell dude if you can't even acknowledge the wins stacking up you're not worth wasting conversation on
Laughing, wins? Call me when they start. What you are seeing is mostly all part of the NWO's & deep states plan, and how sysops work,... That B/S with the cans & shorts is/was a clue to many,....
maybe he/we have been around and alert long enough to not get all hot about the initiating hype. maybe we've been around long enough to have seen these games fail repeatedly. when gov propaganda has been shown to be manipulating lies 90%+ out of 100 ,we don't buy into without results.
i doubt anyone here denies progress along some lines. there are claims been made that were completely turned 180. everybody awake knows it has only been 6 mos and Trump needs time. we all know he has been fought tooth and nail. it has also been only 6 mos-too soon to start singing halleluajh. some of us have a memory that is longer than 5 years. been there seen that heard that.
Pessimist are either not disappointed. Or pleasantly surprised
When’s the last time you thought something was going to be good or really good and it lives up to its expectations.
Just figure it’s going to suck. It’s better that way
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It is surprising how one dorner or the guy who shot the squirrel squad members etc can completely fubar up the whole gov apparatus
Imagine one in each state
Owned by or are Jews.
All the politicians in our country that hold dual citizenship or take money from foreign sources should be hung. After a fair trial of course
I drew the line at those Mongolian sex changes. Hell I can’t tell what sex they are anyways, so does it really matter?
USAID was funding several leftist newspapers/websites in poland, they were funding faggot political groups, "refugee" programs that helped arabs and africans cross the border into poland. Now magnify that by every country in Europe, Mediterranean, Asia.
Most failed to realize how deep their perception is/was, including the bulk of the LAPD, to the point they were shooting up grandma's over a no name, who never had specialized or export only training. Like the old saying its all fun & games until the rabbit has a gun. Then there was the real deal Sniper in Lolo Mt years back, that had all but the very hardy in a twist. If he had not took the cowards way out that could have got interesting.
To many people take things at face value because they have been shielded most of their lives from reality, then when reality comes calling they fall apart rapidly. The fallacy of the S/M world only instills false perceptions. Cause & effect eludes many in life as most can locate the effect and think well there's your issue, when the root cause eludes them. You see it in most all things mechanical & electrical. Life is the same way, quit dealing with the effects, cure the root issue* and you'll never have to deal with the effects but once. Always bandaging the effect is a lost cause, but deep thinking eludes many. Until the people that have fucked this country are held painfully accountable, its all effect fixing,... Effect fixing is NOT Winning, its just more fluff for the weak thinkers to hawk.
Root issues*
TSB's, accident investigation, & failure analysis only deal with root issues,...
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@Gunfighter14e2
Let's start where all good stories start- at the beginning. This whole discussion is a wasted exercise in futility without you sharing what your idea of 'winning' is.
You can say that we haven't gotten there yet (and you might be 100% right) but someone else might say they're drowning in political victories (and they likely would also be 100% correct too).
Not gonna attack you or ask you to change your standards, just asking for you to explain what it is your standards are is all.
Let's start where all good stories start- at the beginning. This whole discussion is a wasted exercise in futility without you sharing what your idea of 'winning' is.
You can say that we haven't gotten there yet (and you might be 100% right) but someone else might say they're drowning in political victories (and they likely would also be 100% correct too).
Not gonna attack you or ask you to change your standards, just asking for you to explain what it is your standards are is all.
Winning would have been going after those who willingly & intentionally fucked this country, for a seat at the table of the NWO. Everything to date is but fluff as it does not address, stop, or cure the root issue. Reversing what they have done appeals to those who are short sighted to think the root issue has gone away or permanently stopped from happening again, ever. When in fact those same folks are still doing the same shit behind door # 3. Until you stop the root issue, fixing or reversing the effect, is worthless except like I said, for the slow thinkers to believe change has happened. Until those people are dead or behind bars it will all happen again, that is not winning that is just prolonging the end game. You want to change people, they need to suffer a pain level, mental or physically that convinces them its not worth the risk. All to date can be reversed by the mid terms or in 3+ years, that is not winning,... People in this country use to think past their nose, I'm guessing that is gone as well.
Appreciate the response- for what it's worth, my question wasn't intended as a "challenge" by any means (lord knows there's enough of the chest thumping here in the Pit otherwise) honestly I just wanted to better understand what it was you were looking for and what motivated you starting the discussion was all.
Completely understand where you're coming from- let me think on it before responding to your question.
While you're thinking don't forget, or learn how sysops work,...
Hah,
I hope I didn't come across as being dismissive- I'm really not all that complicated. I just wanted some clarification on what you were going after (which you provided) and rather than run my mouth immediately and pat myself on the back later, I just wanted to "chew" on it for a bit is all.
Again- not being dismissive by any means just reckon that if I'm going to respond to the conversation I should put at least a little bit of thought in what I'm about to say is all.
-LD
So much fraud and corruption. Treason against Trump and nobody's been charged. Auto pen pardons. Billions thrown into a brand new NGO created just before Trump took office. Billions stolen from government accounts. CCs used in Vegas and strip clubs.
Has anybody been charged for these crimes?
Has anybody been charged for these crimes?
But w/o sufficient pain, they will be just like dirty Cops/Dr's/Nurses, ect,... leave and show up at a different agency/group and keep applying their wears. Its all show so far, to keep the slow thinkers inline,...
I'm guessing that even if you aren't going to say the quiet part out loud, you probably well know exactly why none of that is going to happen anytime soon, no matter who gets "elected" or what armies conquer who.
If this dumb ass farm kid can see it, most could if they would just stop & think. The distractions most see do not appear out of thin air. My party won "we're winning" My party lost we are fucked, how long has that kind of shit been going on? Many fail to understand before you can have a earthly savor, there has to be a huge problem for them to "Fix". Yet w/o the root issue being addressed/corrected in X years the same B/S starts all over again. That is not winning,... that is just fating the snowball somewhat slower is all.
If I see trump jailing or otherwise disposing of people
then and only then, will I feel like we won something, otherwise its just, SSDD,... w/a ice cream topping.
@Gunfighter14e2 ...
I've been thinking about this post and reckon I'm ready to share an opinion on the topic. First off- your aspirations are more than noble and you don't need a black sheep like myself to tell you that and frankly you already know that.
That said- just one internet strangers's opinion of course, but humbly I'm going to suggest that perhaps there is solstice & joy in recognizing and watching the political pendulum starting to shift in the opposite direction that we've been seeing.
It's my sincere hope that you & I will see that pendulum swing far enough that we begin to see accountability finally being assessed. Again that's a genuine hope from me to you.
That said- while we might get there eventually I'd offer an unsolicited opinion that perhaps you could re-evaluate the situation and not lose sight of the time period where the pendulum starts shifting towards the other side. There'll be a lot of celebrations to be had when that pendulum reaches it's apex on the other side, but there's also a lot of joy between now and then that frankly I'm concerned you may be inadvertently robbing yourself from enjoying.
The destination is grand but the journey is long- I'm just offering a humble suggestion that perhaps while you're rightfully dismayed at the moment, you may be overlooking the journey is all.
-LD
I've been thinking about this post and reckon I'm ready to share an opinion on the topic. First off- your aspirations are more than noble and you don't need a black sheep like myself to tell you that and frankly you already know that.
That said- just one internet strangers's opinion of course, but humbly I'm going to suggest that perhaps there is solstice & joy in recognizing and watching the political pendulum starting to shift in the opposite direction that we've been seeing.
It's my sincere hope that you & I will see that pendulum swing far enough that we begin to see accountability finally being assessed. Again that's a genuine hope from me to you.
That said- while we might get there eventually I'd offer an unsolicited opinion that perhaps you could re-evaluate the situation and not lose sight of the time period where the pendulum starts shifting towards the other side. There'll be a lot of celebrations to be had when that pendulum reaches it's apex on the other side, but there's also a lot of joy between now and then that frankly I'm concerned you may be inadvertently robbing yourself from enjoying.
The destination is grand but the journey is long- I'm just offering a humble suggestion that perhaps while you're rightfully dismayed at the moment, you may be overlooking the journey is all.
-LD
The journey could be very, very short but the bulk of Americans do not have the stomach or balls to change it. As long as they have their A/C TV's and cell phone they'll just keep allowing the ball to roll back & forth, while losing just a little more freedom each time.
They deserve what they get,... The sad part is, those that can see it are on the same ship asking what could this boat be like & do if only,...
Well shit get going, start the revolution. Fire the first shot. But you won't for the very same reason nobody will. We are all too comfy. Until the misery hits all time levels and a majority of the population is trully suffering. And i dont mean first world suffering , erma god primers are a hundred bucks. Nothing will happen till the masses are starving and dieing in the streets. Till then the guillotines will remain in storage. But hey if it makes you feel better keep ranting.If this dumb ass farm kid can see it, most could if they would just stop & think. The distractions most see do not appear out of thin air. My party won "we're winning" My party lost we are fucked, how long has that kind of shit been going on? Many fail to understand before you can have a earthly savor, there has to be a huge problem for them to "Fix". Yet w/o the root issue being addressed/corrected in X years the same B/S starts all over again. That is not winning,... that is just fating the snowball somewhat slower is all.
If I see trump jailing or otherwise disposing of people
Or is it making/teaching people think for their selves? Self thinking people are the most dangerous people there are. Many people think & see a gun or X________ as a weapon, when in fact they are just tools. The weapon is a independent thinking mind, something that has been lost in this country for many, many, years,...
Honest question & no ulterior motives behind it either- when you mention that the journey could be short it sounds like you're implying revolution. And I'm cool with that mentality too.
And maybe this is what you're going towards but when was the last time we saw a "revolution" or "uprising" in a first world country? Honest question because I'm not sure myself... maybe 80 years ago during WWII? By the way- I'm more than ok with being "wrong" with my memory there my ego isn't tied into that statement, I'd rather just know the historical data. Again- maybe that's what you're getting at- perhaps society at large has forgotten about total war and has long since forgetten the real meaning of Memorial Day.
For what it's worth- I haven't forgotten. I'm just a vet with my own problems trying to make the best of things and provide for my family.
Ask around- I can throw up walls of text with my thoughts like nobody's business- but as someone who's seen a lot, thought a lot, and done a lot, I honestly would recommend taking a different look at things. The momentum is shifting and that pendulum is going to land somewhere that'll make you smile but you've got a whole lot of life between now and then and frankly I'm afraid you might be doing yourself a disservice if you don't take a step back and take some joy in that shift while it's happening is all.
No, I'm saying until people are jailed or dead nothing changes, If we were winning the trumpster would be approaching & dealing with the root issue, NOT the Effect. Those who caused all the problems are right now scheming on how to further fuck this country. Also the American people don't have the stomach for change, for change would require sacrifice and not voting your wallet. That is never going to happen!
Again- I think I'm hearing what you're yelling right. You want nothing short of a biblical & armed revolution taking back our nation to where we were... well pre Civil Rights movement so before the 1960's... and before we put the Japanese in internment camps so that's what pre 1930's...I mean I can keep going but perhaps we can settle in the middle and say we should live in a post Cvil War/Restoration timeframe? Frankly I can respect that if that's what tickles your fancy/jives with your reasoning.
My point though is that perhaps there's an alternate path and there's joy to be had in a peaceful transition forward that doesn't slingshot us back to the early 19th Century as a country is all.
Trying to compromise with these people is a lost cause from the gate. As well as you trying to put words into my mouth,...
Putting words into your mouth was not my intention- pointing out the anything short of a "hot" rebellion to satisfy your desires is likely not the most realistic path forward to achieving the same goal is a valid comment/criticism that maybe you need to adjust your expectations (just a little bit) and if you're able to perhaps you'll be far happier by adopting that approach.
Oh but there is another path that would change it all almost overnight, you're thinking is too shallow. Think out of the box.
Listen-
You don't know me & I don't know you that much is fair. That being said if your setting yourself & your expectations to be nothing short of armed rebellion... I think you're going to find yourself wanting and frankly while I'd like you to find peace I'm ok with that.
Armed rebellion means war- you speak of someone that's never been a part of war. Again you don't know me but I was part of the war machine, I go to bed every night remembering things from almost 20 years ago, there are smells that will immediately transport me back 20 years ago, I've spent a considerable amount of personal effort working against what my participation in War did to me and I'm finally coming out on the sunny side of it.
You say diplomacy doesn't work, and in many cases you'd be right. But one thing I'll assure you without a single hesitation- there isn't one iota of morality in war- there is the dead and the survivors and that's it.
Just so happens my generation can't seem to accept the whole 'surviving' part and they keep offing themselves. And that's why I continue to post resources here so folks like me know that there are people that know what they went through, actually give a shit, and want to share every stinking resource available to them & if it saves just one life then my standards are low and mission accomplished. I've been to too many funerals.
So sorry- I do not support your desire for armed rebellion and the reason for that is I've spent too much time in the armed conflict worlds and am of the opinion that the one thing I've got left to cling to is we waged these battles is strange countries so they didn't occur here in the US.
So yep- I'm biased and went on a rant- my apologies for that. But no- peaceful diplomacy is all I've got the stomach for advocating.
-LD
Valid question, one of which I don't have the answer. Hopefully wise men that've seen the alternative?
You're not much of a deep thinker are you? And you are still trying to put words in my mouth.
We’ve been winning since forever ago.
Faster, farther, higher!
Fat chance it’ll stop
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Again- not my intention but let's start over. Hi- I'm LuckyDuck and I'm GWOT combat veteran and those experiences afterwards were something else. How are you?
Just speaking out loud- I sure hope I can keep all of that "Middle East" stuff behind me. That's not to say I didn't get exactly what I enlisted for but a man's got to know their limits and shy of 2 years was mine.
Call me a liar if you want but there's plenty of Vets on this forum that have a 6th sense for fake vets so I'll double down and say that in my experience it wasn't even the Iraqi's that were the problem. It was, of all people, the Chechens. You don't hear that story too often while others regail their military exploits downing Coors light at the local VFW watering hole do you?
True story though- the Iraqi's... they'd be eating dinner, hear a helicopter flying overhead and the "extremist" would walk up to the roof, take a few pot shots and go back to dinner. But the Chechens... they were a different breed. You see when I was deployed, jihad was declared and Iraq turned into the islamic disney land to kill infidels and the Chechens were well equipped, knew what they were doing and frankly were rather effective. They were also well supported by... drum roll please... Iran.
Yup- no secrets there- deployed to Iraq only to fight "die hard" Islamic Chechens and being fully supported by the very best of munitions Iran had to offer.
How's that for a no bullshit story?
The winning sure ramped up today, and over just a single question to boot.
Here comes the distraction from yesterday. Are they dirty Oh hell yes. will anything happen to them beyond history books,.... Hell No.
BREAKING: FBI launches criminal probes into John Brennan, James Comey over Trump-Russia collusion hoax: report
CIA Director John Ratcliffe has referred evidence in the probe to Kash Patel.
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Then this just dropped as well,...
Supreme Court issues wrecking ball decision sending DC into panic mode
The US Supreme Court on has cleared the way for Donald Trump's administration to move forward with mass federal layoffs.
