We may finally know who’s been to the island

She's going to get some high profile media attention gig where she's sold as a genius of some kind. The narcissism is well off the chain these days among the chabadniks. They really think themselves geniuses and are working hard to persuade non-thinkers of this.

I heard she's a top candidate for joining the cast of The View.
 
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I am just repeating: the fact that certain negative aspects of human behavior have been with us for thousands of years, it does not excuse ANYTHING. Not a thing.

This tendency to minimize, or go apathetic, is not native-grown, it is urged by others, and you may notice it emanates from the same place that has made teevee shows and movies for the past 75+ years. They just do it on the internet now, in addition to your evening sitcoms and your hagiographic movies.

I struggle to understand how fully grown adult men confront a problem, and decide their course of action is to shrug shoulders and say "always been that way, harumph."

Is that supposed to show you are above it all, as in, "I'm so smart I see it all. But don't ask me to do anything about it." Honestly not picking on you, just wondering what is the impulse for apathy.
 
I assume "The Unit" is some secret squirrel thing. I did have a clearance many moons ago, but even then didn't have the need to know anything meaningful or juicy, so no secrets to keep really.

I don't take issue with your belief (and it IS just a belief), that this coverup is 100% nefarious and there are no good people in government at all. Often I would amen to that, and it may well be. You shouldn't take issue that there may be a reason for it that can at least be articulated and debated. Maybe you work for The Unit and are fishing for enemies of the state...?

I'm not saying I would agree with the justification, just that the rules of conspiracy theories are completely broken in a coverup of this size. Only one person can keep a secret. It shouldn't offend you that it's a possibility, because I'm not offended you think they're all evil crooks (most of them are). And, we're back to Lot. There's always one good person in every sea of evil. There's always one person willing to go to the cross. As a conspiracy expands the odds it will remain secret plummet. When the people who had little or nothing to do with the original conspiracy decide it's in their/our/whatever interest to not let the truth get out it just seems to me that there is probably a compelling reason that we're not aware of...

I believe, like it seems almost everyone else, that Epstein was deep in the intelligence world and that he prayed on pedophiles (he was one) like he prayed on young girls. We agree on that for the reasons you've given and what's already out in the public sphere. What I'm not clear on is why this administration is either complicit or would participate in a cover up. Just cuz they're all evil doesn't track with me, nor does some continuity of government theory, because most of the Federal government could keel over this moment and the world would keep spinning, and the vast majority of us, who have nothing to do with them except on election day, would never even notice.

The whole thing is just so blatant, and such a 180 it makes me think there is a lot more going on that we are privy to.
 
Does it scare the Unit that people like me exist? That I am not captured by your kompromat?
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of course we don't know if they all did something to a child, but looks like a list of people that hate trump.
many of them have been very vocal about it and tried very hard to keep him from being elected again.
i would start with them.

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Fake, there is no list. Didn’t you listen to them when they told you this on public news
 
Mr Newton, "conspiracy theory" is a term used to denigrate someone. Who do you think came up with that nonsense, labelling critics and skeptics broadbrush?

I guess if you play a team sport, your "conspiracy theory" would negatively view team play? Working together, and individually, for a common goal?

Good gosh amighty, this is crazy stuff. Minimizing every opportunity. Is it because the extent of capture is hard to fathom?
 
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Fake, there is no list. Didn’t you listen to them when they told you this on public news
that's just compiled from flight logs, but lawyers for the victims claim that at least 20 people were named by the victims.
supposedly, ~150 victims have received payouts from the epstein victim fund and signed ndas.
 
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theLBC --

Notice on the list how many "entertainment" people are named, and almost all of them were people who suddenly were stars with no background in their field (acting, comedy, directing). Almost like what they got/did on the island caused them to receive instant hawley would attention and praise and stardom.

Most of these people are talentless. The hype around them exists because they are talentless. Will Ferrell is a perfect thumbnail sketch of the type. Stupid, unfunny, and promoted by hawley would as a comic genius.
 
Those of you guys who did mil time -- did you keep properly skeptical of the doings done by your branch's uberdudes or teamboys or whatever? Do you worship them no matter what they do/did?

Do you instinctively think that they are entitled to "protect the country" by engaging in kompromat work, or by hiding that kompromat work anywhere... like here, pretending to be a "true patriot" who "trusts the plan"?

Because if this Epp-Shtayn info is released in any substantive way, your worship of the teamboys is likely to crumble in tears or rage.
 
Why do you think such fight against release. Self delusion is one of the hardest things to overcome and on national level - borderline impossible. To truly comprehend the vile and gore of the elites one really needs a strong “conspiracy theory” mentality as real truth is much much worse than daily lie most tell themselves to be able to get up in the morning, go to work, have taxes deducted and be able to sleep at night. Most prefer lie its easier.
 
Yeah, except replace "conspiracy theory" with "skeptical, rational thinker" and you are correct. How do you think people got so "domesticated" or docile regarding appropriate skepticism?

Could it be connected to the fact that public schools test your ability to memorize and regurgitate a narrative, and the best memorizers get the best grades, leading you to think memorization is the topmost intellectual talent? (It is not. It is a parlor trick. Try working with your memorized tidbits, magician, and prove your chops that way.)

Could it be that what was dutifully memorized for whatever grades you got, it wasn't actually accurate or true, and omitted very relevant details in order to make you believe a Pretty Picture?

Could it be the memorization for grades does NOT test critical thinking in any way?

Yes x3 should be your answers, but if you went to public schools and lived for everything but knowledge, you may not know it is yes times three. You may still believe in the Pretty Picture. Well life ain't that, is it?
 
Indoctrination. Evolution of human farming that essentially through systemic approaches (destruction of family cell, education, meritocracy, values, morals etc.) created Nietzches “new man” or tried to (to be discovered very soon i guess).
Fact that there was a guy pimping underaged girls or boys to various people in power and no legal proceedings worse yet most brushing it off (not just politicians who got their dicks wet) speaks volumes of what we as society have become.

PS: Not to mention other stuff where we keep silent or do nothing.
 
Mr Newton, "conspiracy theory" is a term used to denigrate someone. Who do you think came up with that nonsense, labelling critics and skeptics broadbrush?

I guess if you play a team sport, your "conspiracy theory" would negatively view team play? Working together, and individually, for a common goal?

Good gosh amighty, this is crazy stuff. Minimizing every opportunity. Is it because the extent of capture is hard to fathom?
(Oh brother), I'm not denigrating your theories, but that they're involve multiple people keeping the truth secret MAKES THEM A CONSPRIACY. The Kennedy Assassination WAS a conspiracy. There are many theories, and while the government may have used those words to denigrate people who didn't believe thier narrative, it's now common usage, and after covid I don't think there are many people who still believe what press agents put out. You don't have to be in The Unit to understand that.


Just as Social Security is not technically a Ponzi scheme, because everyone knows that it is a pyramid scheme and bankrupt, so to is a theory that requires the complicity of dozens or hundreds of individuals keeping something skeptical, mark me down in The Unit's ledger as being skeptical...unless, there would be a national security reason and the people would keep it secret out of a sense of duty or real fear of consequences, and I don't mean to all the criminals, but to all of us who, as you point out, had nothing to do with it.
 
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We as in the USA/CIA, our country, abetting, condoning, allowing, etc. what Jeffry Epstein etal were doing. Obviously I don't mean the royal "we". Nor am I saying that "we" weren't involved. I have no idea. I hope we weren't, but to say I'd be shocked if we were would be inaccurate.

I don't believe he acted alone just because he was a sicko. We have names from the plane's manifest. We know some, and we know it goes to the top.

My point was only that if at some point we became aware, and then came into possession of all the material, and that some of it compromises our enemies and gives "us" control over them, the case could be made, and much more easily than if we were involved in or condoned the actual crimes... Does it weigh out? I don't know, but that doesn't mean I trust anything either. Just an admission of ignorance, and trying to find a reason that makes sense to me, because that everyone who has touched this is a demon in human flesh is fever dreams.

It's the 180 from Patel and Bongino that has me perplexed. What have they seen that turned them from a dog with a bone to complicit?
They are conmen opportunist through and through. They had no deeply held morals or beliefs. They aren’t fighters. They and their boss fooled tens of millions.
 
Just as Social Security is not technically a Ponzi scheme, because everyone knows that it is a pyramid scheme and bankrupt, so to is a theory that requires the complicity of dozens or hundreds of individuals keeping something skeptical, mark me down in The Unit's ledger as being skeptical...unless, there would be a national security reason and the people would keep it secret out of a sense of duty or real fear of consequences, and I don't mean to all the criminals, but to all of us who, as you point out, had nothing to do with it.
maybe that's why politicians on both sides support migration. if you don't have a growing population, this doesn't quite work.
covid probably set the clock back a little bit, with a shit ton of old folks being killed in their beds by "doctors".
while migrant workers probably won't pay a dime (net) in federal income taxes, very few will escape payroll taxes.
 
maybe that's why politicians on both sides support migration. if you don't have a growing population, this doesn't quite work.
covid probably set the clock back a little bit, with a shit ton of old folks being killed in their beds by "doctors".
while migrant workers probably won't pay a dime (net) in federal income taxes, very few will escape payroll taxes.
They also buy food and goods.
 
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No its not! And unless fucks go to jail or are hanged lived on PPV, the cover up well still be real,...

 
that's why europe is importing migrants, because their economy is for shit with negative wypipo population growth.
people can only have so many televisions...
the difference there is that the wypipo still have to pay for all the shit.
Correct. If you look at the birth rates in the US, it essentially directly correlates with immigration(both legal and illegal).

Our economy and socialist ponzi programs rely on exponential population growth.

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(Oh brother), I'm not denigrating your theories, but that they're involve multiple people keeping the truth secret MAKES THEM A CONSPRIACY. The Kennedy Assassination WAS a conspiracy. There are many theories, and while the government may have used those words to denigrate people who didn't believe thier narrative, it's now common usage, and after covid I don't think there are many people who still believe what press agents put out. You don't have to be in The Unit to understand that.
Yes exactly, this is why I made the team sport analogy. My other point was not personally directed at you (unless you are playing abogado del diablo for the Unit in which case I don't care what you think or do) but to emphasize that the use of the phrase "conspiracy theory" in domestic conversation tends to carry a "you're a kook, unhinged!" quality because of who/what entity generated that phrase's use. Those people/that entity are about as filthy as can be, but well connected to the chabadbucks and so they turn blind eyes (if not true believers in the six pt star) to the question of whether their humint mind-phoquing is treason.

Any complex scheme or operation requires "conspiracy" to work. The AR-15 is a conspiracy of mechanical subsystems!

My point -- the phrase "conspiracy theory" is so loaded with craptastic humint manipulation that you ought to use a different set of words to describe the thing/situation. Using it seriously, not in ironic satire I mean, tends to suggest you work for the Unit knowingly or otherwise. In this era, many could think they aren't in the Unit while doing its work. And yes you can learn this shorthand's meaning if you aren't duller than a hatchet used to pick rocks from the soil.
 
maybe that's why politicians on both sides support migration. if you don't have a growing population, this doesn't quite work.
Something to ponder: ever since the "Sanctuary City" legislation was put into effect, immigrants were given free housing, a job, food/expense stipends, and a wad of cash otherwise. At the same time, domestic citizens, some multi-generational, were going without work or income or food. Could not get jobs while the new immigrants were GIVEN jobs.

Bribery plain and simple. "It's OUR country now, see!"

With OUR meaning the chabadniks and their immigrant golems.
 
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Correct. If you look at the birth rates in the US, it essentially directly correlates with immigration(both legal and illegal).

Our economy and socialist ponzi programs rely on exponential population growth.

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Yeah it just so happens a bunch of chabadnik social scientists in the 80s and 90s were made temporarily famous for their books talking about the need to have fewer children for various "social responsibility" reasons. Hey Paul Ehrlich, what was your payout?

Anyone here with any slight nerd/egghead tendency -- on this subject you could read Christopher Lasch, he wrote a few very good but nerdy books on domestic culture before he died. Lasch was a leftist in his youth and later became an interesting mix of very conservative/traditional thoughts and some skeptical thoughts on how gov't, pretending to be conservative/traditional, often did very radical or leftist things. Progress, the True & Only Heaven is one of these books. Culture of Narcissism is the other. Both are very smart critiques of the modern leftist view, presently shown in the "diversity-equity-inclusion" and gender fluidity nonsense.
 
Okay, don't try to figure out the shorthand, Mr Newton. Get all cocky and post "memes" that are as tired as Will Ferrell's comedy.

Also, don't ever try to comprehend what someone wrote. ALWAYS super-impose your solipsistic view on their words, and tell them they are wrong/crazy/gay/whatever.

You are an adult, but act this way. And think it's impressive. Go pound sand, Mr Newton. Pound it hard.

As to GTFO, child? You are pathetic. A nothing, acting the king. Entirely unimpressive.

Tell me something, Mr Newton. How do you imagine that your participation on a long range precision forum makes you my superior? I will happily learn shooting details from anyone who knows more than me, and that's a lot of people. On matters such as you and I are talking -- or at least trying here -- why do you think your status as "fig" on SH makes you some wizard, badass, or my superior on matters that have absolutely jack shit to do with lrp shooting?
 
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Reread the thread. You're the one who claims secret knowledge of secret government organizations that are what? Controlling our minds? It's all the Joos? You clown and discredit yourself. I don't even need to participate. I live in the real world.

I've been here for years of lols. I actually know many of the people who post on this board. I shoot with them competitively. I'm actually a part of this community. You are a faceless, meaningless handle who's been here a minute, but throws elbows and makes accusations. I actually agree with some of what you say, but it's buried in too much bullshit.

Seek help. Go outside. Feel grass on your toes. Shoot a match. Kiss a girl. Get off the internet. It's rotting your brain. This may be the best resource for shooting on the web, but outside of that it's men talking and laughing together. You seem to be here for something else. Whatever it is we're sold out.
 
Reread the thread. You're the one who claims secret knowledge of secret government organizations that are what?

Okay Unit boy. Sorry your pals were bombed recently. Sorry your PR jobs can't withstand reality.

I never said I had secret knowledge, which you dishonestly project onto me, you cretinous scab of semi-humanity chabadnik.

You "argue" and "insult" exactly like AleksanderSuave. What a pipsqueak imagining self The Dominator.

Seek help. Go outside. Feel grass on your toes. Shoot a match. Kiss a girl. Get off the internet. It's rotting your brain. This may be the best resource for shooting on the web, but outside of that it's men talking and laughing together. You seem to be here for something else. Whatever it is we're sold out.

Little boy -- I am here to learn lrp shooting, which I have been doing for 5 years w/o comment, and 1 year with comments. Stop lying through your keyboard, you pissheaded dishonest chabadnik.

I am in this forum to talk about this topic, which should be obvious even to you. You are not my boss in any capacity. It's laughable to see you try to be. Like you intimidate me. Grow the fugg up and act your fuggin age, chabadnik.

I am pretty sure that at my advanced age, I get outside more than you and am in better physical shape than you will be at my age, and maybe better than you are now. You are not my superior, Mr Newton. You may shoot better -- and if you stop acting like a hero I may be able to learn something from you in that world. Here? Go sit at the kids' table where you can act like the thirteen year old you've been acting as in this thread.

As to the general joke nature of the Pit, of course, you moron. This topic however is not a joke, and you want to make it one. Why is that? Why is this laughable, or worthy of minimizing, or instilling apathy? What prompts you to work those angles? It's not funny at all. At all. In any universe full of humans that is. Semi-humans, however, may find it funny. But they are well outnumbered everywhere except a tiny patch of land not far from Iran.
 
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There is no crime worst than crimes against children.
If we can't or will not protect children no matter who they are, then this whole thing needs to burn to the fucking ground.

Trump, Patel, Bondi, Bongino and Vance just stepped in a pile of dog shit. The MAGA movement is worthless after this cover-up. The American people are policed by threat of force with a gun in every aspect of their life. 5 mph over the speed limit and you are scanning for the cops. City, county, state, federal, sales, income, property, gas and multiple other taxes are taken from us under threat of jail and a gun. You can't breathe without breaking a law at this point in time. The tax slaves had a glimmer of hope that the corner was about to turn towards a return to the original ideals of a once great country. That was just crushed for the protection of the State that created the oppression. They declared that the Almighty State and those that run it are untouchable and there's nothing we can do about it.
For the second time in the last 10 years we the people gave the republicant party control of all 3 chambers of government only to be spit upon by them. The BBB bill was stripped of anything that was good for the people and continued the same ol same ol of the bloated Fed Gov. It'll be the only legislation signed by Trump before the mid term election. After the kick in the nuts we were given you can rest assured that the republicants will get slaughtered in the mid term election.
They just told us to our faces that they have to/ are going to protect their child molestors at all costs and don't you cross the line because a thug with a badge and a gun will be there to keep you in line.
Welcome to the plantation!!

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It has in fact pushed many fence setters & leftest to see the light. The surprising fact is the amount of leftest who are just as pissed about it as I am as well. They are happy to see trump taking a beating, but most are just as pissed about the fact its all being white washed. That kind of surprised me to a point, but maybe just maybe they are now putting morels over being deeply rooted in the FSA. As they now realize their children could be gotten to/took as well, w/o a single thing happening to the perps.
 
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It has in fact pushed many fence setters & leftest to see the light. The surprising fact is the amount of leftest who are just as pissed about it as I am as well. They are happy to see trump taking a beating, but most are just as pissed about the fact its all being white washed. That kind of surprised me to a point, but maybe just maybe they are now putting morels over being deeply rooted in the FSA. As they now realize their children could be gotten to/took as well, w/o a single thing happening to the perps.
Yesterday I saw or heard about the left demanding answers. Cho Mo's are despised by the worst of our society. Prisons are full of rapists, murderers and basically the worst part of society and the Cho Mo has to be protected from them. Everyone should be demanding that the scum on the list should be turned out?
I also think that there's some political advantage for the left in how this played out. Even though the Biden regime covered it up it was Trump that said he was going to expose everything. Bongino, Patel and Bondi all claimed that they knew or had inside information about the Epstein ordeal. Trump put them in the positions to expose what they claimed and now they have pulled a 180. The people know that it happened and believed that those three were straight up for the people. Now they are just another group of government liars protecting the worst of the worst in our society. At the very minimum they are liars. Either they lied when they said that they knew or they are liars now when they say that nothing happened.
People have been watching detective shows for the better part of the last hundred years. From Perry Mason, Columbo to CSI and now everyone is is a TV detective and they know bullshit when they see it. Let's be real honest, there's a lot of bullshit in this saga of Epstein. I find it funny that of all the underhanded BS by the left to take Trump down that it'll probably be Epstein that's going to turn the people against him. The very guy that Trump knew was a Piece Of Shit twenty some years ago and sent him to the curb may just be the ticket the Democrats have to ruin Trump.
 
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The very guy that Trump knew was a Piece Of Shit twenty some years ago and sent him to the curb may just be the ticket the Democrats have to ruin Trump.
The Dems are going to get a lot of help. This is the kind of shit that happens when most are but one issue or wallet voters, and those they voted for think they are gods. Everyone I've talked to that voted against swallowing girl, is now regretting even voting at all as they see its all fixed against them.
 
Okay Unit boy. Sorry your pals were bombed recently. Sorry your PR jobs can't withstand reality.

I never said I had secret knowledge, which you dishonestly project onto me, you cretinous scab of semi-humanity chabadnik.

You "argue" and "insult" exactly like AleksanderSuave. What a pipsqueak imagining self The Dominator.



Little boy -- I am here to learn lrp shooting, which I have been doing for 5 years w/o comment, and 1 year with comments. Stop lying through your keyboard, you pissheaded dishonest chabadnik.

I am in this forum to talk about this topic, which should be obvious even to you. You are not my boss in any capacity. It's laughable to see you try to be. Like you intimidate me. Grow the fugg up and act your fuggin age, chabadnik.

I am pretty sure that at my advanced age, I get outside more than you and am in better physical shape than you will be at my age, and maybe better than you are now. You are not my superior, Mr Newton. You may shoot better -- and if you stop acting like a hero I may be able to learn something from you in that world. Here? Go sit at the kids' table where you can act like the thirteen year old you've been acting as in this thread.

As to the general joke nature of the Pit, of course, you moron. This topic however is not a joke, and you want to make it one. Why is that? Why is this laughable, or worthy of minimizing, or instilling apathy? What prompts you to work those angles? It's not funny at all. At all. In any universe full of humans that is. Semi-humans, however, may find it funny. But they are well outnumbered everywhere except a tiny patch of land not far from Iran.
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