Anyone but Hamilton
Any F1 racing fans?
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I went to the first year f1 came back 200 I think, and took my order brother and father
Same thing, great time and 3-4 days of racing.
They had Ferrari challenge series, then porsche GT3, then porsche cup or what ever they called the professional and non professional series back then. Then the qual and race. V10s were incredible.
Funny story, one night we were on our own for dinner and as can be imagined everyplace was packed. Being from NY we didn’t think of making reservations but Indy isn’t a huge city etc. so we were kind of screwed, my father wasn’t going to eat McDonald’s lol.
So we settled on a Cheesecake Factory that was just opening up, I think it was the first or second night it was actually open. We get out and get on line which looks to be a little long but we figured it’ll move. After a few minutes we realized it went around the building..shit.
As we we about to leave a younger guy cones out (I was mid 20’s and he looked a few years older than me) who is the manager and is doing damage control for the line. He ask where are you from etc…I say NY. I also say my college friend is a manager at a cheesecake in NY…yes his name is Vinny lol.
He goes..holy shit I trained with him. The manger took us in the side door and sat us down immediately.
My brother still laughs about it 25 years later.
He showed himself in a very nice way again, didn’t he?
I imagine that the team hates him already.
It would have been great if the reply over the radio was " Do as told". They are usually tame over the radio because everyone is listening. I probably wouldn't have cared about who was listening and said quite a bit more. Especially at the end when he asked "should let him pass also."
Anyone but a Britt. Nothing personal against British in general but the sucking off F1 does in general for British drive me nuts.
I do like Oscar though, especially when compared to Lando.
Until recently he’s always had the best car. Like Vettel or Verstappan before him. Kimi R , Max, and Alonso can lift a car beyond its potential but I haven’t really seen that yet from him. He choose wisely leaving McLaren when he did, but I bet he wishes he was still in that Benz.
He’s no Senna that’s for sure. He was the absolute best.
Unless McLaren decides to fuck him and favor Lando OR RB gets their shit together and can get some pace out of their cars. Piastri is the better driver (McLaren) though.
I also have a "feeling" that McLaren is bending, or flat out breaking, some rules. Hence their wing coming under inspection before Spain. I don't know how they get their tires to outlast every other team and to outpace Max, even with his inferior car, and the all the other teams by such a huge margin. You could say the same about 2023s RB, but Max is just brilliant and is actually that fast.
Except that RB has been on the edge for awhile now which is why every other driver can’t make it work within that small performance window.
Also I think the bigger factor is that Newey is gone, and his pending departure meant he didn’t work on that car much if any. The golden rule of F1 is……. If you’re not developing the car, you’re going backwards.
Can you imagine how big his head would have been if he got the pole for the sprint? Kimi should have thanked him for the seat during his interview. Hamilton's head wouldn't have fit in his helmet
We went to the first two F1 races held at IMS. Very enjoyable! Very fan-friendly. A much better place to see a race than either Miami or Vegas.
Heard something at the Weiner 500 which made me really worried. The announcers stated that the Pre-Race pageantry was as much a part of the race as the race itself. I am afraid this has become true for too many forms of racing including you know what form.
Pageantry, great to show off the 1st grade students at grade school assembles and great with celebrities for Democratic Party campaign rallies. For racing, not so much.
Pageantry, great to show off the 1st grade students at grade school assembles and great with celebrities for Democratic Party campaign rallies. For racing, not so much.
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Oofa, I wish they would take Monaco off the calendar. I know it'll never happen, but a guy can wish. The team strategies with the two mandated pit stops this year made the race painful to watch. The only bright spot was Lando setting the course record in quali.
Max Verstappen's idea of banana peels throwers a la Super Mario seems more promising...like Mercedes 'Taktik' button Toto Wolff was used to push sometimes... I believe that was connected to a Hamilton balls shrinking system or nebulized beer injection in Botta's helmet.
Looks like Horner is gone from Red Bull and rumors are Max will go to Merc. If that happens Red Bull is done for a while as none of the other drivers could actually drive the Red Bull car.
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Horner bids emotional farewell to Red Bull
Christian Horner has shared his first comments after being replaced as Red Bull Racing’s CEO and Team Principal, saying he leaves the operation “with a heavy heart” but “immense pride” over their Formula 1 journey and achievements.
www.formula1.com
Lewis Hamilton says Max Verstappen joining Mercedes would be no 'problem' and would recommend his former squad
Max Verstappen has been linked with a move from Red Bull to Mercedes; Lewis Hamilton says he would have no problem with his once fierce rival joining his former squad following his own switch to Ferrari
Horner's seeming inability to get Max's car sorted out this season has really been vexing. Max is perhaps the most talented active driver in F1 and he'll probably lose the championship because of the team's failures with the car's setup.
On another F1 topic, it makes me happy to see Hamilton fail- his "wokeness" is a slap in the face to the free world.
On another F1 topic, it makes me happy to see Hamilton fail- his "wokeness" is a slap in the face to the free world.
The last year of Red Bull has been a goat hump. Last year Max won in spite of them, not because of them. I too am getting the impression he's driving a Mercedes next year and George is driving a Red Bull.
Helmut Marko is the reason that Red Bull are going in the wrong direction. That's been obvious for years. They designed a Newey car very specific to Max's driving style that only he can exploit. They have been essentially a one car team the last few years, and the competition has finally caught up to where they need that second car to add to the points total.
Yuki was doing great in the Racing Bull car before switching to Red Bull. Perez didn't forget how to drive, and neither did anyone else in that car going back to Gasly or Albon. it was a stupid decision to build only for Max. The money comes from the Constructors placing, and no one really cares about the driver's championship first.
Even when Schumy was at Ferrari, the number 2 driver was capable of winning unless they had to make way to let Michael by. Red Bull never did that. That's all on Helmut. When Dietrich passed, so did anyone putting these guys in their place.
Horner did an amazing job over the years. I hope he winds up at Ferrari, as he know how to build a team. I doubt he'll be unemployed long. Verstappen is one of the best drivers ever........no doubt, but I wouldn't pay that $100M+ buy out for him. Russel and Kimi are their future.
The sad part is the racing has never been closer across the entire field, and the new rules will definitely have teams who get it right from day one, and others (RB? New Power Train) who might not. Que Sera, Sera!
Yuki was doing great in the Racing Bull car before switching to Red Bull. Perez didn't forget how to drive, and neither did anyone else in that car going back to Gasly or Albon. it was a stupid decision to build only for Max. The money comes from the Constructors placing, and no one really cares about the driver's championship first.
Even when Schumy was at Ferrari, the number 2 driver was capable of winning unless they had to make way to let Michael by. Red Bull never did that. That's all on Helmut. When Dietrich passed, so did anyone putting these guys in their place.
Horner did an amazing job over the years. I hope he winds up at Ferrari, as he know how to build a team. I doubt he'll be unemployed long. Verstappen is one of the best drivers ever........no doubt, but I wouldn't pay that $100M+ buy out for him. Russel and Kimi are their future.
The sad part is the racing has never been closer across the entire field, and the new rules will definitely have teams who get it right from day one, and others (RB? New Power Train) who might not. Que Sera, Sera!
As far as Horner goes IMO it has something to do with the accusations last year. Red Bulls car has been tailored to Max as no one else can drive it with much success, Sergio did OK.
Lewis's driving style does not fit with the aero package cars and I believe he will be better off next year.
All champions are a combination of driver and car, Mclaren has it right now and next year it starts all over.
Lewis's driving style does not fit with the aero package cars and I believe he will be better off next year.
All champions are a combination of driver and car, Mclaren has it right now and next year it starts all over.
Looks like Horner is gone from Red Bull and rumors are Max will go to Merc. If that happens Red Bull is done for a while as none of the other drivers could actually drive the Red Bull car.
Horner bids emotional farewell to Red Bull
Christian Horner has shared his first comments after being replaced as Red Bull Racing’s CEO and Team Principal, saying he leaves the operation “with a heavy heart” but “immense pride” over their Formula 1 journey and achievements.
Lewis Hamilton says Max Verstappen joining Mercedes would be no 'problem' and would recommend his former squad
Max Verstappen has been linked with a move from Red Bull to Mercedes; Lewis Hamilton says he would have no problem with his once fierce rival joining his former squad following his own switch to Ferrari
Was just coming here to post this! Wild…
Jos Verstappen (Max’s dad) can’t stand Christian for some reason. Between that, the sexual harassment noise last year, the mess that led to Adrian Newey leaving on a sour note, and Christian’s inability to lead the entire team vs. just catering to Max, let alone being unable to find a good #2 driver probably killed his career despite his strong record.
F1’s all about “What are you doing for me today”.
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That, and the fact there is more politics in F1 today, than in the U.S. Congress.
There has always been crazy politics in F1. Go look up Jean-Marie Balestre, and Max Mosely. It has been integral to F1 since the beginning.
I do not know if this is true or not, however I read that he has an out. Meaning if Red Bull doesn't perform he can leave on his own accord. If true, that would make it that any team could get him without having to buy him out of his contract. Toto has been spreading rumors that he has been in talks with Max. Also, George Russel was only offered a one year contract extension for 2026 and he's not happy about that.
Max Verstappen breaks silence on Mercedes speculation amid 'talks' with Toto Wolff
Reigning F1 champion Max Verstappen could leave Red Bull ahead of next year, with reports suggesting he could replace rival George Russell at Mercedes.
Mercedes now trying to 'devalue' George Russell with one 2026 contract demand
Will he accept it to avoid being replaced by Verstappen?
From my understanding, Horner is still employed just not team principal any longer. And if they will bring Flavio back, there's no way Horner isn't team principal of another team next season. Rumors are that Ferrari isn't happy w/ Fred, although I really like Fred, and Horner may be going to Ferrari. But other than Red Bull, Mercedes, and McLaren, any team is possible in my opinion.
One of the aero guys? You’re funny
I suggest that you google his name and read a little bit about this “aero guy”.
IMO, he is to F1 what Mozart or Beethoven were to music.
Why Red Bull sacked Christian Horner now, after a year that never stopped spiraling
Power struggles, an investigation and a declining car eroded support for the only team principal Red Bull has ever known
www.nytimes.com
IMO, Jos is the reason for the ultimate downfall of RB. He's toxic and I'd bet dollars to donuts that toxicity will follow wherever Max goes. IMO, Jos is just a jealous father who's narcissism will create chaos wherever he's allowed to go in an attempt to undermine Max's success. And just like any typical narcissist, he'll blame anyone but himself because by definition, a narcissist can't understand that they're the root of the problem. Watch him go after Toto once Max continues his success there.
I’m not disagreeing, but I have a very, very hard time with the thought that a father would not want to see his son do well, and certainly better than he could have ever done.
My joy whether it be a PRS competition, or a water ski tournament or a high school basketball game has always been to see Will III do well. If he finishes above me, and he always does, I couldn’t be happier. (I actually finished ahead of him in ONE stage, in One match. 9 -8. My last shot at 1057 yards won the day) In the match, he outshot me by something like two hits to my every one. And again, seeing him place well up in the standings, was a source of pride.
And what parent wouldn’t want to see their son or daughter excel. It’s a dad’s job. Make them good citizens and give them the physical and mental tools to achieve the goals and excel in their life’s choices.
That's because you're not a sociopath. Think Charlene Theron and her two transgender children. It's difficult for "normal" people to visualize how a narcissistic sociopath thinks. The first clue is his inability to stand on the sidelines and allow his son to live his life. It's one thing to speak to your son, or daughter, in private giving parental advice. Quite another being your child's publicist and sabotaging them by bad mouthing their coach publicly. There's zero evidence Horner was mistreating or misguiding Max. Quite the opposite actually. This enraged Jos as Jos likely believes he's solely responsible for Max's success.
@Dead Eye Dick i completely agree with you. Seeing my kids progress beyond what I could achieve is so fun to see. I coach them in some sports, and give them guidance (along with other coaches in the club) and they capitalise on the experience we have. When they apply it, it's amazing to see.
Why wouldn't you want the best for your kids? they are part of you, and your legacy.
Having Jos (in theory) sabotage Max, out of spite. OR !! Perhaps he wants Max to go to another team and be world champion in 2 different cars, before Hamilton does it ??
Why wouldn't you want the best for your kids? they are part of you, and your legacy.
Having Jos (in theory) sabotage Max, out of spite. OR !! Perhaps he wants Max to go to another team and be world champion in 2 different cars, before Hamilton does it ??
Hamilton already has done it McLaren and Mercedes, Ferrari will be 3.
Jos is just a control freak and wants credit for whatever good happens. I do not see that working at Mercedes as Toto is an owner
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