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Not sure how to “sight in” my glock

I guess what I’m looking for out of this is, has anyone else had iron sights on a custom Glock be off? How did you fix it? I don’t know of a place to get different height sights for glocks like 1911s and I really don’t want to use an adjustable sight or a red dot.
if it groups good (?) then it's as simple as drifting the back sight left or right, and getting a different height front sight (and possibly a diff height back sight depending on how much it's off). as mentioned above, hit dawsonprecision.com or call them and they'll let you know what you need in your situation. if it's not grouping good, then i'd fix that before messing with the sights (shooter error, crap ammo, bad or mismatched components).
 
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Where are you? I do need legit training. Not just me shooting random shit in the backyard

Have you ever received any firearm training before? Regarding the fundamentals of marksmanship, stance, grip, trigger maniplation, "work space", etc?? How long have you owned firearms or been shooting for?

Your grip and pistol fit-to-hand is one of the important parts to have squared away first as a new pistol shooter, IMO. FWIW, ive been a competitive pistol shooter from 12 y/o to current 37. Also did 13 years of federal L.E and tactical operations experience. I can get in the stack and really fuck up the Tangos in the shoothouse. Primary and secondary weapon systems, alike. Would do a zoom chat for nothing but your time if you really wanted some help or initial guidance on marksmanship. 😁 (y)
 
Have you ever received any firearm training before? Regarding the fundamentals of marksmanship, stance, grip, trigger maniplation, "work space", etc?? How long have you owned firearms or been shooting for?

Your grip and pistol fit-to-hand is one of the important parts to have squared away first as a new pistol shooter, IMO. FWIW, ive been a competitive pistol shooter from 12 y/o to current 37. Also did 13 years of federal L.E and tactical operations experience. I can get in the stack and really fuck up the Tangos in the shoothouse. Primary and secondary weapon systems, alike. Would do a zoom chat for nothing but your time if you really wanted some help or initial guidance on marksmanship. 😁 (y)
I’ve been around guns since I was probably 8. I’m currently 19 and the only “training” I’ve had is I watch Lucas from Trex arms before he left and I took a conceal carry class and currently have my concealed carry carry permit. I regularly shoot rifles and I have proof I can kinda shoot a rifle from a bench but that’s about where my skill ends.
 
’m currently 19 and the only “training” I’ve had is I watch Lucas from Trex arms before he left
Yahtzee! This is most likely the real answer. Listen up, sport. This place has plenty of old guys(we are most assuredly not grown up *or* adults) that have all of the experience and answers you need. You will need to develop thicker skin to get beyond our feral nature but you will get your answers. Buckle up and listen. You’ll also learn some new shit-talk to impress your friends
 
Yahtzee! This is most likely the real answer. Listen up, sport. This place has plenty of old guys(we are most assuredly not grown up *or* adults) that have all of the experience and answers you need. You will need to develop thicker skin to get beyond our feral nature but you will get your answers. Buckle up and listen. You’ll also learn some new shit-talk to impress your friends
OP be weary of this guy he’s acting like he wants to mentor you but he’s really just extremely gay. Prison rules apply if he puts a snickers on your pillow don’t touch it.
 
I like snickers 😂
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3ft low at normal pistol distance sounds like some sight issues. You'd have to be really screwing up to get it that low.

Likely mismatched sights on your slide or. MAYBE some kind of crazy barrel problem.

Money on sights, with the front being too tall for the notch in rear sight.

Have someone else shoot it, try it with a couple different ammo types, shoot off a rest. If problem persists something is up. You might still be a dogshit pistol shot, but likely something else in the mix for 3ft low poi.
 
@Thema4 This is the Bear Pit, where we come to talk crap to one another. If you want to get a higher ratio of solid answers, go to "The Armory", which is the first sub-forum on the main list and ask there. Here, everything requires thick skin.
“I got a lot of problems with you people, and now you’re gonna hear it”
 
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It doesn't appear to be a mis-match of sight height. Something with the barrel or slide being out of spec would be the logical suspect. As suggested above try swapping the parts around to see if it can be isolated given the factory parts shot well.

Agreed... Those sights look to be a pretty standard height, I'd put the factory barrel and slide back on to see how well you shoot with it and post some pics of it now vs. the factory setup. Gen 5 G45's are capable of pretty good precision with good ammo for a striker fired polymer gun from the factory, I'd suspect that barrel and slide combo could have lost you some precision and accuracy.

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As long as you don't eat them upside down so you can feel the veins with your tongue.

Just 'sayin!

Sirhr
BAHAHAHA! 😂🤣

Brother Sirhr....I have absolutely no idea of your life story, but.....After a few years on the Hide, you are the smartest assed comeback shooter I have seen thus far on here. I would absolutely enjoy a drink and bullshit sesh 'round the campfire with your wise ass. 🤣 God, bless you! 🫡
 
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@Thema4

As others have mentioned this is the Pit and likely explains the hoopla type of responses you're seeing. That said- I'll take this as an honest question and as someone likely better versed in Glocks & that particular sight set up, I'd still like to ignore the usual Pit shenanigans to see if I can help you out.

First off- are you consistently grouping with the Glock to get to the verdict of 3' low @ 25 yards or are you all over the place and that just seems to be where your hits are reaching? I don't mean this as an insult or me beating my own chest- I'm just some random internet stranger that's gone through the same issues and wants to help as best as I can.

If you're grouping consistently- that's actually a "biggly" good thing because that means you're consistent on your mechanics & also means that once we know what you're doing consistently, we know how to make subtle changes to give you the desired results.

In my experience with Glocks with that particular set of sights- at that distance you "should" be using a "combat" sight picture with sight alignment- I'll illustrate what I'm talking about with the below image...

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3' low however... assuming you're grouping center suggests to me that you may be "dipping" the pistol downwards in anticipation of recoil. The good news is (again assuming you're grouping centered) you're not 'pulling' the gun which is a harder habit to break from.

Just for grins- if I could make two suggestions to try out- try using 'more' finger on the trigger and a stronger grip with your weak hand. I can only go off of what you shared but I suspect those two minor tweaks will get you hitting closer to center with just a bit of practice.

Best of luck to you.

-LD
 
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@Thema4

As others have mentioned this is the Pit and likely explains the hoopla type of responses you're seeing. That said- I'll take this as an honest question and as someone likely better versed in Glocks & that particular sight set up, I'd still like to ignore the usual Pit shenanigans to see if I can help you out.

First off- are you consistently grouping with the Glock to get to the verdict of 3' low @ 25 yards or are you all over the place and that just seems to be where your hits are reaching? I don't mean this as an insult or me beating my own chest- I'm just some random internet stranger that's gone through the same issues and wants to help as best as I can.

If you're grouping consistently- that's actually a "biggly" good thing because that means you're consistent on your mechanics & also means that once we know what you're doing consistently, we know how to make subtle changes to give you the desired results.

In my experience with Glocks with that particular set of sights- at that distance you "should" be using a "combat" sight picture with sight alignment- I'll illustrate what I'm talking about with the below image...

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3' low however... assuming you're grouping center suggests to me that you may be "dipping" the pistol downwards in anticipation of recoil. The good news is (again assuming you're grouping centered) you're not 'pulling' the gun which is a harder habit to break from.

Just for grins- if I could make two suggestions to try out- try using 'more' finger on the trigger and a stronger grip with your weak hand. I can only go off of what you shared but I suspect those two minor tweaks will get you hitting closer to center with just a bit of practice.

Best of luck to you.

-LD
I’ve never seen or heard of the three sight pictures you show in the picture. I always thought center hold was the way to do it and that’s how I shoot with all my other handguns and it worked. Next time I get a chance to shoot I have a couple things to mess with and this will add to the list. Thank you.
 
BAHAHAHA! 😂🤣

Brother Sirhr....I have absolutely no idea of your life story, but.....After a few years on the Hide, you are the smartest assed comeback shooter I have seen thus far on here. I would absolutely enjoy a drink and bullshit sesh 'round the campfire with your wise ass. 🤣 God, bless you! 🫡

Just no White Claw!

Sirhr
 
@Thema4

As others have mentioned this is the Pit and likely explains the hoopla type of responses you're seeing. That said- I'll take this as an honest question and as someone likely better versed in Glocks & that particular sight set up, I'd still like to ignore the usual Pit shenanigans to see if I can help you out.

First off- are you consistently grouping with the Glock to get to the verdict of 3' low @ 25 yards or are you all over the place and that just seems to be where your hits are reaching? I don't mean this as an insult or me beating my own chest- I'm just some random internet stranger that's gone through the same issues and wants to help as best as I can.

If you're grouping consistently- that's actually a "biggly" good thing because that means you're consistent on your mechanics & also means that once we know what you're doing consistently, we know how to make subtle changes to give you the desired results.

In my experience with Glocks with that particular set of sights- at that distance you "should" be using a "combat" sight picture with sight alignment- I'll illustrate what I'm talking about with the below image...

View attachment 8742084

3' low however... assuming you're grouping center suggests to me that you may be "dipping" the pistol downwards in anticipation of recoil. The good news is (again assuming you're grouping centered) you're not 'pulling' the gun which is a harder habit to break from.

Just for grins- if I could make two suggestions to try out- try using 'more' finger on the trigger and a stronger grip with your weak hand. I can only go off of what you shared but I suspect those two minor tweaks will get you hitting closer to center with just a bit of practice.

Best of luck to you.

-LD



This is absolutely a factor, I prefer my iron sights to try and match up with sight picture #2 at 25 yards but it's also very ammo dependent. Most standard Trijicon and Ameriglo sights are designed for sight picture #3 at 15 or 25 yards on factory handguns but they usually don't list what ammo is used. Being 51 and a decent handgun shooter I'm picky about my handgun setups due to not getting out and training or practicing as much as I should. My corrected vision does not pick up the front sight very clear anymore so I prefer red dots with target based focus. This is my (somewhat large) preferred carry setup minus the Surefire X300, I need to group it at 25 yards with the red dot turned down with some good ammo. Last time I was out, I was shooting about a face sized rock at 50 yards with S&B 124gr. - Richard

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There are lots of good ideas and helpful suggestions mixed in with the joking in this thread.
I don’t know why your Glock is hitting that far low, I’d love to help if you were in Idaho, but finding a competent person local to you is the best thing to do.
For more help here on the hide you could post pics of your shot target, also maybe try again by reinstalling the factory parts and checking a group and taking a pic of that also.

Lots of talk about “sight picture” and such here, and it all makes sense and is technically correct. However, once your index is established through practice, you don’t have to take the time to “align the sights” or “equal light equal height”. This will take some coaching and lots of dry fire and verifying at the range. LOTS

For myself, I don’t “look” at my sights. I focus on the target and put the front sight on the target, then send it. I certainly don’t “align the front and rear sight” and certainly don’t “focus on the front sight”.
Here is a 3 shot group at 80 yards, standing, mostly stock Glock 19 with iron sights (ameriglo idot, blacked out rear sight)
Could I do better if I focused more on “aligning the sights”? Probably, but I don’t.

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@LuckyLuke80 consistently outshoots me when we shoot together. He’s faster and more accurate by a good margin. And he doesn’t “align the sights”

PS. Using a red dot is the way. Period.
 
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I really need to update my videos, but this was 13ish years ago on a steel silhouette at 50 yards 3/3 at the end of the day when we saw this target as we were leaving. Nothing fancy, a Glock 19.4 with Ameriglo CAP sights and I believe using American Eagle 147gr. This particular G19.4 had the most erratic ejection and I was beta testing Apex Tactical's prototype extractor that range trip. -Richard

 
I really need to update my videos, but this was 13ish years ago on a steel silhouette at 50 yards 3/3 at the end of the day when we saw this target as we were leaving. Nothing fancy, a Glock 19.4 with Ameriglo CAP sights and I believe using American Eagle 147gr. This particular G19.4 had the most erratic ejection and I was beta testing Apex Tactical's prototype extractor that range trip. -Richard


You killed it!
 
So as an update, I had a few moments in between jobs that I could go run a mag through the Glock and test a few things. Not enough time to spend a lot of time getting it perfect just trying to get an idea on what I’m doing wrong. I tested the “combat sighting” thing and it worked. I was hitting more targets than normal. There is definitely still a lot of user error in the misses but I know I suck at shooting. I spend most of my time shooting heavy varmint caliber rifles and 22 handguns so I’m sure there’s something to anticipating recoil as I don’t experience it that often. I think the answer to my problem is the combat sighting picture that I had no clue even existed. Crazy how when you use equipment the way it’s supposed to be used it works better. Thanks for all the replies, making fun of me sucking and all.
 
@Thema4
There are lots of good ideas and helpful suggestions mixed in with the joking in this thread.
I don’t know why your Glock is hitting that far low, I’d love to help if you were in Idaho, but finding a competent person local to you is the best thing to do.
For more help here on the hide you could post pics of your shot target, also maybe try again by reinstalling the factory parts and checking a group and taking a pic of that also.

Lots of talk about “sight picture” and such here, and it all makes sense and is technically correct. However, once your index is established through practice, you don’t have to take the time to “align the sights” or “equal light equal height”. This will take some coaching and lots of dry fire and verifying at the range. LOTS

For myself, I don’t “look” at my sights. I focus on the target and put the front sight on the target, then send it. I certainly don’t “align the front and rear sight” and certainly don’t “focus on the front sight”.
Here is a 3 shot group at 80 yards, standing, mostly stock Glock 19 with iron sights (ameriglo idot, blacked out rear sight)
Could I do better if I focused more on “aligning the sights”? Probably, but I don’t.

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@LuckyLuke80 consistently outshoots me when we shoot together. He’s faster and more accurate by a good margin. And he doesn’t “align the sights”

PS. Using a red dot is the way. Period.
I don’t know about the consistently outshooting you part of that, but I agree completely with all the rest. I gave up on the “front sight focus” and aligning the sights. I just looke where I’m shooting and let my eyes do their thing with the sights. I use the irons the same as a guy would use a red dot. It works. Stoeger has proved it as well. Now, that said, I agree that a red dot is the way. Period.