Vudoo closed the doors…
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Moving or not moving is not the problem, never was. Lots of companies move operations and do so quite successfully. The problem is two fold. First, they fired much of the core staff and left much of the core staff in Utah. Second, they totally cut off all customers, with lots of customers cash in their hands.
Buying a Vudoo, is not like going to the car dealer and signing a few papers and driving off with your new car, after giving a mere pittance of a down payment. It’s more like getting a new $80,000.00 truck and they won’t even start construction of your new truck until you give them at least $40,000.00.
And that is exactly the issue. To place an order for a Vudoo, they required at least a payment of 50% of the cost of the rifle before they started building your rifle.
So, with your serious cash invested, they go off line, disappear for months…..
It takes a lot of trust to put $1500.00 in someone else’s pocket in hopes that in 2 to 4 months, they will put a rifle in your hand for $1500.00 more.
Buying a Vudoo, is not like going to the car dealer and signing a few papers and driving off with your new car, after giving a mere pittance of a down payment. It’s more like getting a new $80,000.00 truck and they won’t even start construction of your new truck until you give them at least $40,000.00.
And that is exactly the issue. To place an order for a Vudoo, they required at least a payment of 50% of the cost of the rifle before they started building your rifle.
So, with your serious cash invested, they go off line, disappear for months…..
It takes a lot of trust to put $1500.00 in someone else’s pocket in hopes that in 2 to 4 months, they will put a rifle in your hand for $1500.00 more.
I’d put my kid in my three quarter ton pickup and tell him to have fun then let him near my John Deere. True story, he was too small to reach the clutch at six, so I’d tell him to put it in first great and het the started. The old Ford would start (double low gear) and he’d drive it all over the pasture. (In double low).
Having seen exactly what can happen with a tractor and equipment, this picture is the closest I ever let him get to it and it wasn’t running at the time. (And that John Deere was a marvel of safety compared to the 8N and 650 Ford tractors I owned.)
My son, also 6, hit me up about learning to drive the tractor the other day. He thinks he's hot stuff now that he gets to mow the yard on the zeroturn.
He gets to drive the tractor sitting in my lap, but it'll be a while before he gets to go it alone. I pretty much make him responsible for driving, but I'm in the seat. He's learning quick, and he's surprisingly good at it for his size. Kids learn quick.
I learned tractors at a young age myself. I was riding on one from the time I could walk. At 7 or 8, my grandfather made me move the tractor in position and roll him into the front end loader to carry him back to the house for practice should something happen to him while we were out doing whatever.
He passed when I was 12 and I inherited the tractor. At that point, I pretty much took over all work around the homestead that tractor was associated with, and the maintenance of the machine itself. Still have it today.
My son on the mower taking a water break. Mowing is hot thirsty work.
So now we have tractors and lawnmowers in here. Sorry. I'll try to keep it on the topic of strictly tractors from here on out.
Driven a f40 a fair bit.. my original Vudoo is nice..but let’s not jump the shark
I like the Ferris zero turn personally, but the wife likes her baby tractor
I've got an uncle that has a ferris. He likes it. Myself and my dad both had deere until here recently. Now dad has a bobcat. 38hp efi kawi, 72" cut, two speed transmission. Sucker does 20 mph lol.
so Ya ,Mike just confirmed my suspicion, but don't worry, I am walking him through the process
Don't get me wrong. I have and LOVE my Vudoo. It's just all the drama and what appears to be the decline of a once well respected brand swirling the drain. Kind of like Larue when he stopped taking his meds or Noveske when John died. The brand has lost its panache and there will be pre buyout Vudoo and post buy out Vudoo snobbery. Is it possible for them to recover? Yes, but it's going to take A LOT of work regaining the trust of the customer and building some very fine rifles. Returning to their roots and hiring a very good social media team would payout in spades. But I get the feeling it's more about the money and a quick payout than the love of the sport. Not to mention a very capable engineer stepping up and filling the void at this critical juncture.
You're incredibly fortunate. My 2nd favorite car ever made. How did you score the seat time?Driven a f40 a fair bit.. my original Vudoo is nice..but let’s not jump the shark
Used to go to some Ferrari club events and a good friend has a serious “stable”.
Over the years it became kind of a long weekend with girlfriends or wife a few times a year..so we’d swap cars at times for different legs of the ride or going to dinner.
Rented out line Rock and Watkins glen a bunch of times. Was surprisingly cheap back then.
One guy had a F50, which is the car of all cars. Only had a little seat time on a local road but that’s the pinochle of cars hands down.
F40 was as expected, absolute go cart with 500hp, half ass brakes and a lag/boost combo that wants to bite you lol..but the f50 just feels perfect.
I’d say the 40 is like a young pornstar and the 50 is a very expensive escort.
Maybe they can steal Hornady's marketing team.
Don't get me wrong. I have and LOVE my Vudoo. It's just all the drama and what appears to be the decline of a once well respected brand swirling the drain. Kind of like Larue when he stopped taking his meds or Noveske when John died. The brand has lost its panache and there will be pre buyout Vudoo and post buy out Vudoo snobbery. Is it possible for them to recover? Yes, but it's going to take A LOT of work regaining the trust of the customer and building some very fine rifles. Returning to their roots and hiring a very good social media team would payout in spades. But I get the feeling it's more about the money and a quick payout than the love of the sport. Not to mention a very capable engineer stepping up and filling the void at this critical juncture.
I think you mean “pinnacle”? Pinochle is a card game.
That’s super cool you got some seat time. Have you ever driven a GTO 288? I barely know anything about Ferraris, but that one always caught my eye. Maybe because I love Group B racing…didn’t even know the GTO 288 was destined to Group B before the series got canceled.
You know all this, I’m sure, but it was new to me:
Ferrari 288 GTO - Secret Classics
In 1984, the 288 GTO, the first example of today's Ferrari "Big Five", made its debut. RM Sotheby's is auctioning one in Paris.
www.secret-classics.com
These are some highlights from the Gallery at Monticello Motor Club in the Catskills. Both the Porsche and the Jaguar have quite a storied history.I think you mean “pinnacle”? Pinochle is a card game.
That’s super cool you got some seat time. Have you ever driven a GTO 288? I barely know anything about Ferraris, but that one always caught my eye. Maybe because I love Group B racing…didn’t even know the GTO 288 was destined to Group B before the series got canceled.
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You know all this, I’m sure, but it was new to me:
Ferrari 288 GTO - Secret Classics
In 1984, the 288 GTO, the first example of today's Ferrari "Big Five", made its debut. RM Sotheby's is auctioning one in Paris.
Once upon a time, I owned a 2000 Corvette. Took it auto crossing a few times. Even with just 345hp, that 3300 pound little fellow would get your attention quick. Once thought I saw a state police vehicle as I was passing 100mph on the speedometer. Between the cars aero and the brakes, it actually misshaped my face. Only thing quicker in bringing that car down would be a solid, well supported brick wall. At 130 it was still pulling just as strong as 80. Since that was very close to the max speed I ever flew a Cessna Cutlass, I decided that was enough. (Louisiana roads being Louisiana roads).
Can’t imagine what these current crop of cars can do with their 800+ Horsepower engines. However, I do know that the 2000 Corvette was more than several classes above “automobiles” of the time
Last thought. During those years, my son and I autocrossed. I never really could properly get the Corvette around the course, simply too much power, even with the computer doing its best to help. I actually could set quicker times with our son’s race set up Miata.
Can’t imagine what these current crop of cars can do with their 800+ Horsepower engines. However, I do know that the 2000 Corvette was more than several classes above “automobiles” of the time
Last thought. During those years, my son and I autocrossed. I never really could properly get the Corvette around the course, simply too much power, even with the computer doing its best to help. I actually could set quicker times with our son’s race set up Miata.
I used to have a 74 Ford LTD when I was in high school that was nice except for the rusted out rear quarter panel. Plenty of room in the back seat for me and my girlfriend. Would do 0-60 in about a minute and a half.
Well you have us beat, we had a really nice 74 Chevy Cheyenne Super. Had a 350 and a 2 barrel. On a good day off a cliff, it might get from 0 to 60 in a couple of decades. Heck, I think a paratrooper could beat it to the ground it was so slow. But it wasn’t for effort. That smog lugged engine could get though a gallon of gas quicker than an SR71.
And then there was the “Unipoints”. (Always, always carry a spare set).
You would be driving down the road and the engine would die. No issues, no misses, just die like you turned off the key. Get out, get the screwdriver ready, pop the distributor cap, unscrew the unipoint set, put in the new spare set, it would then start right up and run good enough to get you home so you could properly set the dwell. Another one of 1970’s GM’s less than better ideas. A good set might last 10,000 miles but usually less.
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No but I’ve been around a few…looks soooo much better in person.I think you mean “pinnacle”? Pinochle is a card game.
That’s super cool you got some seat time. Have you ever driven a GTO 288? I barely know anything about Ferraris, but that one always caught my eye. Maybe because I love Group B racing…didn’t even know the GTO 288 was destined to Group B before the series got canceled.
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You know all this, I’m sure, but it was new to me:
Ferrari 288 GTO - Secret Classics
In 1984, the 288 GTO, the first example of today's Ferrari "Big Five", made its debut. RM Sotheby's is auctioning one in Paris.
I was just up there for a bently track day, hitting lime rock with mclaren in September
I know one of the original owners, they sold a few years ago. They tried to get F1 up there a few times but the expense was crazy. And their run off areas/safty zones were millions of dollars more never mind the fees that you pay up front
Learn to drive on my families 78 ltd wagon. Crazy thing was even though you could lay a 4x8 plywood down if you dropped the bs k seats and still close the back..my friends 78 t-bird was actually longer by a few inches.
100% “too much” power is a pain. And loads of power hide technique and line flaws. If you can catch up down the straight because you can hook up..your lap times are ok but in reality your just point and squirt which isn’t racing. Autocross is fine with smaller cars..vettes are large for cone set up’s. Still loads of fun though.
Formula 1 has fallen in love with concrete canyons and NASCAR is trying to follow suit. Even the America’s Cup has fallen in with these short zoomy race courses. It pleases the city crowds who know nothing about the racing, nothing about the sport but are thrilled to see their favorite movie actor or rap singer down on the track being interviewed. Prices to attend these events are right in line with what F1 charges.
Brenda and I attended the USGP for three years when it was in Indianapolis. Great seats, right in front of the pits under the roof. Had a great conversation with Steve Machet, following one of the practice sessions. A three day ticket cost maybe 145 dollars. A local family, one of hundreds that provide parking, took us under their wing, and made sure the Corvette was parked next to their home, off the street and watched over it while we were at the races. Had a family barbecue after the actual race and invited all their customers. Really nice folks and the cost was very reasonable. (Especially considering the service they provided. It was a special time and great fun. We stayed at local Bed and Breakfast. Last year our BnB was right on the river. I went for a short walk after dark (quite safe neighborhood) and the sight was surreal. Fireflies were everywhere. All but lit up the night.
there might have been better race tracks, but at least it did not have all the cartoon colors of todays tracks, looking so much like circus tents then road courses. And the concrete canyons. What a joke. Parades waiting for a wreck.
I will apologize for being so wordy. It’s raining here and too wet to go to the range.
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Couple of them red cars … first time an f1 car did a few laps around Daytona.
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Dude, I'm so glad it moved on from "art." That was a bit too much "rainbow" for me.
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I thought we might try mowers but somebody didn't like the idea of mowers and tractors so here's just mowerDude, I'm so glad it moved on from "art." That was a bit too much "rainbow" for me.
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