Hey ... it's $200

Have any of you noticed an increase of transfer fees from your LGS for suppressor.

My LGS has firearm transfers for $25.
Suppressor are at $175.

I think this is a little steep, but that's why I'm asking.
Find a new dealer. My guy charges like 75 bucks for a can transfer and that's with tax. Runs everything through silencer shop too so much easier.
 
I'm curious to see what Jan 1st brings.

I think there will be an initial uptick in purchases from people holding out to save $200, but I doubt that it will bring a flood of first time suppressor buyers. I could certainly be wrong though.
As a sour pessimist I agree with this. But I sense that the dropping of the $200 fee is to some potential buyers, not just $200 but some other thoughts/ideas informing the "...and I ain't payin' it" sentiment.

There's also a psychological angle that waiting until no $200 fee feels like a "win" against a system that maybe shouldn't charge that fee.
 
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I'm curious to see what Jan 1st brings.

I think there will be an initial uptick in purchases from people holding out to save $200, but I doubt that it will bring a flood of first time suppressor buyers. I could certainly be wrong though.
You should see all the tism out there about people transferring suppressors to them selves to change from or to a trust.

If people look around some of the big boys are selling cans now. Midway, Sportsmans Guide. I see what essentially equates to tunes and baffles on ebay. The main bottle neck I woukd be worried about is going to be the ATF.

They were just gloating about making CO safer by taking 60 guns off the street. They didn't mention how criminals or what they were charged with. I just hope those 60 guns are returned to their owners. If If that means dropping the guns and owners in Venezuela.
 
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Silencer Central and Midway USA both say they ship to your door.
Yea but you have to deal with fingerprint cards and other bullshit. I can do everything via silencer shop sitting on the toilet because all the info and fingerprints are in the system. Certification via email as well.
 
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The whole "Trust" thing is something I hadn't considered. I have 8 suppressors, and wanted to consolidate them into a trust, but didn't feel like paying $200 x 8 to do it. As I understand it, I can do a "private - to - trust" transfer without the $200 fee ... correct? That would be something I'd do almost immediately after Jan-1 ... assuming it works that way.
 
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Yea but you have to deal with fingerprint cards and other bullshit.....

You actually dont. Ive bought 3 suppressors from dealers "other than SS" the past 45 days.. Takes you one time to have your fingerprints done electronically into the ATF approved .EFT format. Local UPS Stores do it and email you your .EFT file.

Place orders right from the shitter, attach your fingerprint .EFT file, upload your photo and thats it. All from the shitter. I did 3 SBR's right on ATF Efile website all from the shitter this same way with EFT file...

Things have become so easy now. And 2 cans waiting on my doorstep shipped right to me.... SS doesnt ship to your door, they only deal with their dealer network. This is the main reason why I used Capital Armory and not SS on 2 of my last 3 can orders.
 
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The whole "Trust" thing is something I hadn't considered. I have 8 suppressors, and wanted to consolidate them into a trust, but didn't feel like paying $200 x 8 to do it. As I understand it, I can do a "private - to - trust" transfer without the $200 fee ... correct? That would be something I'd do almost immediately after Jan-1 ... assuming it works that way.

Supposed to work that way. I’ve got 6 I plan to move into trust when this happens.

I still think SS is going to up the fee on these type of transfers - will I actually need a SS or lgs to do this though?
 
Supposed to work that way. I’ve got 6 I plan to move into trust when this happens.

I still think SS is going to up the fee on these type of transfers - will I actually need a SS or lgs to do this though?
I reserve the right to be wrong… but I believe that you only need to get a dealer involved via form 3 when it crosses state lines. In state you can sell and transfer to other individuals yourself via a form4. Thus, you should be able to transfer to your own trust, yourself.
 
I reserve the right to be wrong… but I believe that you only need to get a dealer involved via form 3 when it crosses state lines. In state you can sell and transfer to other individuals yourself via a form4. Thus, you should be able to transfer to your own trust, yourself.

I was just wondering that.. It is a form 4 to transfer from individual to trust but not sure if you have to use a dealer to make this transfer. All of my NFA items are in my trust so I wont be testing these waters...

But... logging into my ATF efile acct, when you click on Form 4, it requires your ATF account to be an FFL/SOT to do a Form 4. So my educated guess is you will need to have an FFL/SOT do these Form4 individual to trust transfers for you...
 
Find a new dealer. My guy charges like 75 bucks for a can transfer and that's with tax. Runs everything through silencer shop too so much easier.
You need to find a new dealer. The shop I use doesn’t charge a fee if it comes from SS inventory. Only charges a fee if it comes from outside his or SS inventory.
 
You need to find a new dealer. The shop I use doesn’t charge a fee if it comes from SS inventory. Only charges a fee if it comes from outside his or SS inventory.

Agreed, any SS orders to my local dealer is a walk in, background check and handed can and walk out transaction... No money involved. They get their money from SS.
 
I'll have to check with my LGS ... I'm not sure if they'll love that idea. It does hedge bets against availability issues, so it could make sense. For me ... I have plenty of cans to do everything I "need" to do, but there are a couple of new ones I'd love to try. So camping out for a Post-Jan-1 sale will probably be my strategy. Not saying it's a good one ... but it's mine.
Any dealer that objects isn't worth doing business with. I can remember when Title 2 took upwards of two years for just a form 3. If your dealer doesn't want to do it then absolutely fuck them.

With that said, Redmond Firearms will do it if your dealer won't.
 
You actually dont. Ive bought 3 suppressors from dealers "other than SS" the past 45 days.. Takes you one time to have your fingerprints done electronically into the ATF approved .EFT format. Local UPS Stores do it and email you your .EFT file.

Place orders right from the shitter, attach your fingerprint .EFT file, upload your photo and thats it. All from the shitter. I did 3 SBR's right on ATF Efile website all from the shitter this same way with EFT file...

Things have become so easy now. And 2 cans waiting on my doorstep shipped right to me.... SS doesnt ship to your door, they only deal with their dealer network. This is the main reason why I used Capital Armory and not SS on 2 of my last 3 can orders.
I checked for UPS stores though through certifix. The closest ones to me listed on there are 150 miles. I dont know if there are other options. It's probably worth the 150 mile drive just for that to simplify the process.
 
I checked for UPS stores though through certifix. The closest ones to me listed on there are 150 miles. I dont know if there are other options. It's probably worth the 150 mile drive just for that to simplify the process.


I was directed to my local ups store through PrintScan for atf approved EFT prints...

Put your zip code in and see if anything is closer...


PrintScan - Fingerprint Cards https://share.google/BuEHfd0FSGFKf0OZT
 
Agreed, any SS orders to my local dealer is a walk in, background check and handed can and walk out transaction... No money involved. They get their money from SS.
He is ignored but I can see your quote. He is a moron and doesn't understand the difference between SS and non SS inventory.

Yes it's for non ss inventory. Way cheaper than anyone else, don't pay tax either. Dealers can add inventory to SS system for ease of transfer. I'm paying less in transfer fee than most people pay in taxes not to mention I can find the can hundreds of dollars cheaper than SS sells it for. Their prices suck for anything but rimfire.
 
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I was directed to my local ups store through PrintScan for atf approved EFT prints...

Put your zip code in and see if anything is closer...


PrintScan - Fingerprint Cards https://share.google/BuEHfd0FSGFKf0OZT
That brings me a sevral place closer. I am not sure if they are open to the public for finger printing. One is public health, one is a school district, and I don't even know what one is but it has an address. That is great resource though. I just sent it to work because they were having trouble getting fingerprints for someone.
 
That brings me a sevral place closer. I am not sure if they are open to the public for finger printing. One is public health, one is a school district, and I don't even know what one is but it has an address. That is great resource though. I just sent it to work because they were having trouble getting fingerprints for someone.

You do all the scheduling right on PrintScan website. Pick your place, date/time. They tell you where and when to show up.. thats what I did. It said go to my local ups store at my selected date/time. Walked in, took 5-10min, walked out and my .EFT electronic prints file was in my email same day on a Saturday.
 
It's nice being a basement FFL & SOT...It cost me 500$ a year, unlimited NFA items....I think I've bought 12-14 cans in the last 3-4 months.

More power to the people that are going to wait until this goes into effect, but id be worried about that turning into a 2 yr wait from a manufacture to get what you want.

$200 is definitely something and who wouldn't want to save it? If i can save 5$, I'm going to choose to do so but I think the stock is so volatile, that if you can afford it then just BUY NOW. Waiting sucks, and the stock as of now for most cans is pretty dang good.
 
If it's a SS single shot trust all you have to do is add whomever you want to pages 2 and 3 (I think) then have it notarized and you're gtg, don't need to move them from a SS trust to a multi trust. SS has instructions for this and will walk you through it. That's my understanding of that style trust. I have several just haven't added my sons to them yet.
 
What if the "you can't have a $0 tax" lawsuit forces an injunction on the transfer of cans until the issue has been decided?

Just got a B&T can back on a trust in 1.5 business days. I'll pay $200 all day every day for that kind of turn-around. I have cans that years ago took 18+ months.