If it’s really usable to the magnification they claim it is, I’ll be stoked
Night Vision N-Vision Clip On Thermal ?
- Thread starter Terry Cross
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Hell, 2/3 or half the useable magnification claimed would have me stoked. If I'm remembering correctly they said up to 20 - 30 magnification. I'm wrong a lot though. RTR
There are no “BAE or bust” people
There ARE:
1. People who have recognized the superiority of the BAE components and engineering as demonstrably superior to the competition to date.
2. People who have warned (and been proven right over and over and over again) when someone promises the next new product will be “a UTC killer”, only to find that it’s not. Not by a long shot. Not in the image and not in the engineering. We warned you all about the Tig, and the Theon, and the FLIR Boson core, and the LWTS-LR, and more. Each time, money was spent and regretted.
Whether BAE keeps making cores or not, they WILL at some point be beaten, and then you’ll realize there never were BAE or bust people, because we’ll be rocking the new toy.
BAE people are simply people who’ve actually compared BAE products to actual physical competing products instead of comparing marketing materials.
I’ll be first in line when a company steps up to finally beat 20 year old tech. It’s long overdue.
It would be miserably sad if it’s FLIR who achieves this, as they hate civilians with a passion. Anyone who doesn’t remember this probably shouldn’t be giving people hope for the future of thermal tech.
The BAE Athena 1920 HD uncooled sensor has been out for years.
I was hoping NVis was going to come out with an optic in a reasonable price range with that core in it to put foreign cores into the dirt.
Instead the big news was a thermal clip on.
That made the 10 people who use a clip on very happy.
SJC
I was hoping NVis was going to come out with an optic in a reasonable price range with that core in it to put foreign cores into the dirt.
Instead the big news was a thermal clip on.
That made the 10 people who use a clip on very happy.
SJC
So it's you and the other nine people who aren't forced to use clip on's buying them !
SJC
Eotechs new CLIPIR-LR MK2 is a 60hz 1280 × 1024 Resolution unit, sits at that $12k price point, is there any field footage of it available? I have the mk1 model, would been nice if they could have reduced the footprint, they're massive units.
To be very precise, the only datasheet I found from Theon Sensors (who actually manufactures these units) is for the MK2 versions of the ELR and xELR, and those both show 640 x 480. I cannot imagine that the LR MK2 has a different sensor.
Additionally, numerous users (including myself) have encountered conditions where the Theon/EoTech thermals couldn’t detect live animals in cold conditions.
In below zero conditions, mine couldn’t detect the heat difference between a wolf and several nearby (not obstructing) bushes which were obviously sub-zero temperature at less than 200 yards.
Yes, I extensively checked settings, but:
1. I’m not sure there is a setting on competing thermals that WOULDN’T have made the wolf pop.
2. My NOX35 or Reap-Ir (I forget which, they are nearly identical in use and I’ve had several of each) immediately and easily showed the wolf. I had to use the BAE core thermal to try to help me figure out which “bush” was the wolf that I was seeing through the Theon LR.
There are a handful of similar stories on the Hide.
The job of thermal weapon sights isn’t just to show the world in black and white like an old movie. My 7 year old has Chinese night vision (a toy) that does that better than any thermal. Thermal is supposed to make live things “pop” so hunters and soldiers have an advantage over night vision.
I’d pick an old military 320 unit or a cheap Chinese hunting thermal over a thermal that occasionally fails to tell me there’s a threat or a critter in IDEAL conditions (you can’t ask for better thermal conditions than sub-zero).
I’ve been told N-Vision isn’t using BAE but that they’re using “the best available”. To date, that statement would be a non-starter, but I’m hoping they are on to something. Time will tell.
In below zero conditions, mine couldn’t detect the heat difference between a wolf and several nearby (not obstructing) bushes which were obviously sub-zero temperature at less than 200 yards.
Yes, I extensively checked settings, but:
1. I’m not sure there is a setting on competing thermals that WOULDN’T have made the wolf pop.
2. My NOX35 or Reap-Ir (I forget which, they are nearly identical in use and I’ve had several of each) immediately and easily showed the wolf. I had to use the BAE core thermal to try to help me figure out which “bush” was the wolf that I was seeing through the Theon LR.
There are a handful of similar stories on the Hide.
The job of thermal weapon sights isn’t just to show the world in black and white like an old movie. My 7 year old has Chinese night vision (a toy) that does that better than any thermal. Thermal is supposed to make live things “pop” so hunters and soldiers have an advantage over night vision.
I’d pick an old military 320 unit or a cheap Chinese hunting thermal over a thermal that occasionally fails to tell me there’s a threat or a critter in IDEAL conditions (you can’t ask for better thermal conditions than sub-zero).
I’ve been told N-Vision isn’t using BAE but that they’re using “the best available”. To date, that statement would be a non-starter, but I’m hoping they are on to something. Time will tell.
We are a week away from Q4 and the website was supposed to be updated with info months ago. Coyote season is in full swing in a matter of weeks as corn is picked here.
What’s up??
What’s up??
