Rifle Scopes Are the mark 4hd canted reticles a problem or few & far between?

[Jmccracken1214]

I’m looking to glass a 18” gas gun and with .mil discount, the pr2 mark 4hd 4.5-18 is a very, very tempting price.
I’ve read a few pages on different sites about people having canted reticles. Is this something plaguing the majority of them or no?

 

[dms416]

It was a problem with the old mk4s in the late 2000’s. Is that what’s coming up or is it also with the newer HD series stuff too?

 

[Jmccracken1214]

It was a problem with the old mk4s in the late 2000’s. Is that what’s coming up or is it also with the newer HD series stuff too?

Seeing it on the new HD

 

[TonyAngel]

I saw a few posts regarding the problem when I first got my 2.5-10 about a year ago, but haven't seen or heard anything recently.

 

[supercorndogs]

Plumb your reticle to gravity. What the problem with it?

 

[cas6969]

Plumb your reticle to gravity. What the problem with it?

Potentially that now your reticle is straight but your erector assembly isn't? No?

 

[TonyAngel]

@OP ... getting a canted reticle could happen with any scope. If you get one, Leupold will take care of it. I wouldn't let this issue stop me from getting one. The Mk4's that I've seen are very nice scopes. At one time, I had it in my head that I would upgrade to a Mk5, but the Mk4 has not left me wanting.

What would concern me more is that, in the past, the performance difference between the Mk4 and Mk5 lines was too small to justify the rather large price difference between the lines. There was talk of Leupold revamping the Mk4 line to widen the performance gap between the Mk4 and Mk5 to more justify the price difference. Whether it is true or not, or whether it happened or not, I do not know.

What I do know is that my 2.5-10 Mk4 is a heck of a scope for the price and as I mentioned, have no intention of going to anything else.

 

[supercorndogs]

Potentially that now your reticle is straight but your erector assembly isn't? No?

Depends on how many degrees it's off, and how much elevation youre dialing if it would be noticeable.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52mm Scope Review

BigJimFish reviews the Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52 M5C3 with PR2-MIL reticle #183626

www.snipershide.com

From this month. He said the reticle was canted on his .3 mils in 10 mils of travel.

 

[Shootin25]

Rifle Scopes - Mark 4hd Out of Alignment Reticle Help/Mounting Opinions

New MK4hd. Referenced scope bottom and turret for level. Mounted to spec, and checked reticle via flashlight, off by 1.2* from turret checked with pulse. Unmounted and verified everything 2 times with same results. I dial so am planning to follow level scope and then verify via tall target. Am...

www.snipershide.com

I went thru it earlier this year. New scope.
They rapidly replaced it with another new and inspected unit.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Rifle Scopes - Mark 4hd Out of Alignment Reticle Help/Mounting Opinions

New MK4hd. Referenced scope bottom and turret for level. Mounted to spec, and checked reticle via flashlight, off by 1.2* from turret checked with pulse. Unmounted and verified everything 2 times with same results. I dial so am planning to follow level scope and then verify via tall target. Am...

www.snipershide.com

I went thru it earlier this year. New scope.
They rapidly replaced it with another new and inspected unit.

Man, I may have to pass on the mk4. I don’t want to deal with that BS.
I was looking to get a 1-4.5 and the 4.5-18 under $1800… may have to just pony up some more cash and go to another brand

 

[Secant]

Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52mm Scope Review

BigJimFish reviews the Leupold Mark 4HD 4.5-18x52 M5C3 with PR2-MIL reticle #183626

www.snipershide.com

From this month. He said the reticle was canted on his .3 mils in 10 mils of travel.

I’ve had ATACRs with that much cant. I think most people would be surprised if they appropriately tested their optic.

 

[chevy_man]

Potentially that now your reticle is straight but your erector assembly isn't? No?

You can't put a level on the cap, the erector isn't perfectly aligned with the cap.

Plumb bob, snug rings, and dial all the way through the elevation travel. If it walks off either side of the string, it's canted.

They get a ton of "bad scopes" that are perfectly fine, reticle and erector track true, but people with $1 Chinese bubble levels can't understand it and get mad.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

You can't put a level on the cap, the erector isn't perfectly aligned with the cap.

Plumb bob, snug rings, and dial all the way through the elevation travel. If it walks off either side of the string, it's canted.

They get a ton of "bad scopes" that are perfectly fine, reticle and erector track true, but people with $1 Chinese bubble levels can't understand it and get mad.

Hey! I’ve got a $5 Chinese bubble level !!!