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[Burdy]

Looking for a scope for a particular use case. These are the features I need:
Side parallax
Low magnification no higher than 3x
High magnification no lower than 10x
Objective no smaller than 36mm
Weight no more than 22 oz
Length no longer than 13"
Glass quality as high as possible

I'll keep updating this current list as the thread goes along:

Scope	Low Mag	High Mag	Objective	Side Focus	Length (inches)	Weight (oz)	Tube Diameter
(Current) Razor HD LH	1.5	8	32	No	11	13.4	1"
Swaro Z8i+	1.7	13	42	Yes	13.2	21.9	30
Steiner H6Xi	2	12	42	Yes	11.8	23.2	30
NF NXS	2.5	10	42	Yes	11.9	20.5	30
March F	3	24	42	Yes	12.28	20.81	30
Steiner Predator 4S	4	16	44	Yes	10.9	18.1	30
USO TS-12X	3	12	44	Yes	9.6	18.11	30
GPO Centuri	3	12	44	YES	9.9	18.9	30
GPO Centuri	4	16	44	Yes	9.9	20	30

 

[Baron23]

Looking for a scope for a particular use case. These are the features I need:
Side parallax
Low magnification no higher than 3x
High magnification no lower than 10x
Objective no smaller than 36mm
Weight no more than 22 oz
Length no longer than 13"
Glass quality as high as possible

Ah....and how much money are you budgeting for this?

 

[Burdy]

Ah....and how much money are you budgeting for this?

All of it.

 

[PhrogDriver]

Looking for a scope for a particular use case. These are the features I need:
Side parallax
Low magnification no higher than 3x
High magnification no lower than 10x
Objective no smaller than 36mm
Weight no more than 22 oz
Length no longer than 13"
Glass quality as high as possible

If you can deal with an additional 1.2 oz, the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 should meet all the other requirements.

 

[Burdy]

If you can deal with an additional 1.2 oz, the Steiner H6Xi 2-12x42 should meet all the other requirements.

Going to look at that one. Anyone have experience with the Steiner Predator 4S? It's only missing the 3x bottom end. Very unique feature set. 4-16x44 10.9" long, 18 ounces.

Another one that almost makes it is the Swaro Z8 1.7-13.

 

[Baron23]

All of it.

a few oz heavier than you want....but its probably all the money and ZCO has great glass. Can get either 1st or 2nd FP.

https://www.zcompoptic.com/en-us/products/hunting/zc-hunter-en#c1

 

[Alpinebeard]

I’d look at these (double check specs before you buy, and prices may have also changed from when I gathered this info). I included the Delta Stryker even though it’s above 3x it’s a pretty wide FOV so it’s comparable to many 3x scopes. Your weight limitation is a tough one but it’s one I happen to agree with you on!


S&B Meta 3-18x42
$4100
FFP, 105 MOA adjustment range (12 Mils/Rev)
28oz, 12.91” long

March 3-24x52
$2900
FFP, 115 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
23.5 ounces, 13.2” long

NF NX8 F1 2.5-20x50
FFP, 109 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
28.3 oz, 12” long

Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44
$1600
FFP, 153 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
28.4 ounces, 12.5” long,

 

[Burdy]

I’d look at these (double check specs before you buy, and prices may have also changed from when I gathered this info). I included the Delta Stryker even though it’s above 3x it’s a pretty wide FOV so it’s comparable to many 3x scopes. Your weight limitation is a tough one but it’s one I happen to agree with you on!


S&B Meta 3-18x42
$4100
FFP, 105 MOA adjustment range (12 Mils/Rev)
28oz, 12.91” long

March 3-24x52
$2900
FFP, 115 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
23.5 ounces, 13.2” long

NF NX8 F1 2.5-20x50
FFP, 109 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
28.3 oz, 12” long

Delta Stryker 3.5-21x44
$1600
FFP, 153 MOA adjustment range (10 Mils/Rev)
28.4 ounces, 12.5” long,

28 ounces is getting too far out there. Thanks for the March recommendation. This one would also fit:
D24V42FIMAN (MOA, Normal, Illumi)

Fwiw, adjustment range is a non issue, and neither is FFP or SFP. Exposed, capped or locking turrets are all good as well.

 

[Alpinebeard]

Sorry I don’t know how I confused 22oz for 28. You’ll be looking at a different class of optics in general.

 

[01911]

March F Tactical 3-24x42mm FFP FML-TRIH Reticle 0.1MIL
12”
21oz

 

[WB300]

NXS 2.5-10x42

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Looking for a scope for a particular use case. These are the features I need:
Side parallax
Low magnification no higher than 3x
High magnification no lower than 10x
Objective no smaller than 36mm
Weight no more than 22 oz
Length no longer than 13"
Glass quality as high as possible

Is this for a points game or otherwise?

 

[Burdy]

Is this for a points game or otherwise?

No, its for hunting thick areas with a .300 BLK on a lightweight suppressed SBR that also enjoys some clip on use (hence the length restriction due to rail space). I've been running the Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 for years on this setup and its been deadly. Ran across a scenario yesterday evening at low light that was frustrating. I had a buck in multiple layers of thick stuff that I had a clear broadside shot on, however I could not determine if it was an 8 point that I had been seeing that I didn't want to shoot, or a 10 point as it was so thick.

Side parallax would have been able to cut through the brush and focus directly on the antlers. Lack of light was not yet the issue, but it was getting dark quick. A larger objective than 32mm would be welcome since we are making the change anyway and a bit more reach than the 8x top end especially as my eyes continue to age. The bottom end mag requirement is to maintain a decent FOV as things move quickly where I hunt. Weight requirement for obvious reasons. SFP is perfectly fine for this cartridge, probably preferred unless someone has a really usable FFP that fits the bill.

Added chart to first post. Will update as this goes along.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

No, its for hunting thick areas with a .300 BLK on a lightweight suppressed SBR that also enjoys some clip on use (hence the length restriction due to rail space).

Until you check these out, don't laugh and remember if you can quarter the target w/the ret you have enough power. For straight-up killing I dumped everything USO, Leupold, Bushnell, ect and now only run Hawke 14211's or 14225's. They work great w/clip on's as well.

 

[Burdy]

Until you check these out, don't laugh and remember if you can quarter the target w/the ret you have enough power. For straight-up killing I dumped everything USO, Leupold, Bushnell, ect and now only run Hawke 14211's or 14225's. They work great w/clip on's as well.

I have never in my life looked at Hawke. I mainly attempt to avoid buying Ch-Ch-China. Browsing their webpage though, these two options are extremely interesting from a feature set standpoint:

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/endurance-30-fd-3-18x44-sf-lrx-hunter-fd-18x.html

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/frontier-30-ffp-3-15x50-mil-pro.html

 

[fdkay]

The new element theos 2-10 checks all your boxes except weight.

 

[Burdy]

The new element theos 2-10 checks all your boxes except weight.

Yeah, too far away from my target weight.

I have updated the original post to include a chart of all that we have found so far. Will continue to update that chart as more come to light.

 

[fdkay]

Yeah, too far away from my target weight.

I have updated the original post to include a chart of all that we have found so far. Will continue to update that chart as more come to light.

Nightforce 2.5-10x42.
it is legendary for a reason.

 

[nrspence]

Yeah, too far away from my target weight.

I have updated the original post to include a chart of all that we have found so far. Will continue to update that chart as more come to light.

You are going to miss out on some awesome optics for 5oz. Are you bag packing ten miles in to these spots? 5 or 6oz extra ain’t shit for the right optic when you are day hunting from your vehicle. I am no Cameron Haines but I have never thought twice about a 30oz optic or a 12lb rifle that shoots really well.

 

[Burdy]

Nightforce 2.5-10x42.
it is legendary for a reason.

For sure that one is one that is at the top. For some reason I really want to try this Steiner 4S. I can't find any real reviews on it, just marketing/launch babble. No YouTube videos outside of conferences. But it makes a compelling case. Its FOV at 4x is wider than the March at 3x. It weighs the least of all options and is shorter than current 1.5-8. Compared to the NF, its giving up 1.5x on the bottom end, but everything else is a gain. 6x more up top, shorter, lighter and capped turrets. Is there any world where this Predator 4S doesn't best the IQ of my current 1.5-8? That's the only unknown here.

 

[Burdy]

You are going to miss out on some awesome optics for 5oz. Are you bag packing ten miles in to these spots? 5 or 6oz extra ain’t shit for the right optic when you are day hunting from your vehicle. I am no Cameron Haines but I have never thought twice about a 30oz optic or a 12lb rifle that shoots really well.

I've got plenty of rifles and optics that fit that mold. This is not one of them. Balance is key.

 

[MattM]

I use a Leupold VX-5HD 2-10 in pretty thick brush. Light weight and good in low light conditions. No parallax, but haven’t needed it.

 

[Burdy]

Welp, we are about to find out about that Steiner. Just placed the order. I will let every one know how it works out.
10.9" long, 18.1 ounces, 4-16x44 with a 36 ft FOV. Judging by my searches, I may be first person in the world to buy one, which may not be a good thing. We will see.

 

[koshkin]

Welp, we are about to find out about that Steiner. Just placed the order. I will let every one know how it works out.
10.9" long, 18.1 ounces, 4-16x44 with a 36 ft FOV. Judging by my searches, I may be first person in the world to buy one, which may not be a good thing. We will see.

It is a pretty respectable scope from what I recall. I am not an SFP guy, so I did not pay a huge amount of attention to it.

You should also consider GPO Centuri 4-16x44 FFP super compact. Other than 4x on the low end, it matches what you are looking for.

I had a turret issue with the one I had, but that appears to be an isolated issue.

They also have a 3-12x44 Super Compact, but that one is a SFP design, so I did not test it.

ILya