Thinking the truck would sell like hot cakes,

[Gunfighter14e2]

It's interesting what you can buy outside of this country, vs most money pits sold here. But keeping you a slave to debt is the plan,...

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[sirhrmechanic]

If I could buy a 1979 K2500 (C2500?) big block 4x4 like we had new in the farm in 1979…. I’d buy it in a second!!!

No AC. Power nothing. Carb. I think it was a four speed. Manual locking hubs. Manual transfer case. Posi rear end. Cut snow like a hot knife through butter.

This is what a truck should be.

My ram had now been down for 6 weeks because ABS module failed and there are none available. Backorder. And snow is coming.

Fuck that shit.

Sirhr

 

[EddieNFL]

Available in 6 pax?

 

[whatsupdoc]

If I could buy a 1979 K2500 (C2500?) big block 4x4 like we had new in the farm in 1979…. I’d buy it in a second!!!

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No AC. Power nothing. Carb. I think it was a four speed. Manual locking hubs. Manual transfer case. Posi rear end. Cut snow like a hot knife through butter.

This is what a truck should be.

My ram had now been down for 6 weeks because ABS module failed and there are none available. Backorder. And snow is coming.

Fuck that shit.

Sirhr

Only rust could stop them. They were great trucks but here in the NE the body panels especially the
bottom of the doors went missing.

 

[ggmanning]

Our market is nuts. Difficult to find a truck that is not outfitted like a luxury vehicle. Last one I bought I had to search the commercial dealers. It has power windows but manual transfer, rubber floors, vinyl seats. Very hard to find a basic work truck any more. I can see me feeding cows in a Super Platinum, Laramie, High Country with sun roof, heated seats and steering wheel, premium sound, leather, 12" screen etc, etc. Merica.....sell the slave tax labor vehicles that most canniot afford and make them think they need it.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Only rust could stop them. They were great trucks but here in the NE the body panels especially the
bottom of the doors went missing.

Forunately, this one was a 'true' farm truck. In the winter, it mostly got used to plow, not run much in salt. So it lasted into the late 1990's...

But, alas, it was the salt that killed it.

Sirhr

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

This is why many refurb shops are opening, as most people are done with the Gucci shit from American mfg's. Working people do not want a rolling powered armchair, that takes a shit if a simple glitch transpires.

 

[kenny1773]

I would like the option to buy a basic car simply for reliability sake and not necessarily cost savings, but the cost savings would be good too.

IMO the more complex something is and the more features it has, the more probability something is going to break (or worse yet not be designed correctly and prone to failures). My sister had a car where the backup camera never worked right, after 20 trips to the dealer for warranty work, she traded it and got something else. That is just a stupid thing to have happen, but who has time to take their car back to the dealer every month...

This is how American cars are made

 

[chevy_man]

Piss and moan, but it's what the people buying new trucks want.

The problem is the cheap asses that want a stripper model aren't buying new.
So the average guy just wants leather, Bluetooth, and a ball chilling seat to cruise around in. He doesn't care about fixing it because he'll never own out of warranty and buys brand new.
That's what sells on the dealer lots. That's what the dealers restock with.

If the people who wanted a basic truck had kept buying them, they'd still make them. When Chevy dropped manual transmissions it was because the demand had dropped to less than 8% of new trucks. Everyone says they want one, but they damn sure weren't ordering them to drive the market.

 

[ironman56]

Hell yes ,I'd buy a brand new 76 Ford 3/4 ton single cab with a 302 V8 and a 5 speed manual transmission, manual windows and vinyl seats, although I do like the backup camera on my 23 bronco sport, but could do without that , being in Texas I'd have to have AC though

 

[supercorndogs]

I will take mid 90s to early 2000s vehicles all day long over stuff from the 70 and 80s. I drove a 73 chevy square body short bed on 35s all through high school. Owned a handful more over the years 73,74 and 87 k5 blazers. My 1998 k2500, I bought over 20 years ago has been great.

 

[SONIC SAAMI]

2 yards of 3/4- just to freshen up the gravel around the woodshed.

 

[MO Fugga]

I have no use for a pickup, but a Hilux is where it's at.

 

[ggmanning]

Piss and moan, but it's what the people buying new trucks want.

The problem is the cheap asses that want a stripper model aren't buying new.
So the average guy just wants leather, Bluetooth, and a ball chilling seat to cruise around in. He doesn't care about fixing it because he'll never own out of warranty and buys brand new.
That's what sells on the dealer lots. That's what the dealers restock with.

If the people who wanted a basic truck had kept buying them, they'd still make them. When Chevy dropped manual transmissions it was because the demand had dropped to less than 8% of new trucks. Everyone says they want one, but they damn sure weren't ordering them to drive the market.

Guilty of that. I don't buy late model for myself (wife excluded from that equation she like Landcruisers). I just bought a second dually Cummins 25 years old.....my "new" one is 12 years old.......

 

[BuildingConceptsllc]

honestly, the best work truck I ever had was a Honda Ridgeline 2006 model. I put 200k miles on it and it went through hell on muddy job sites without ever any issue and even pulled big box trucks out a time or two. Only thing I did was put a back up camera/ sat radio and I replced fan and housing on it. Otherwise it was tires and oil and that's it. I sold it to my best guy and he's driving it with his little enclosed trailer to this day. It wasn't near as comfortable to ride is as my ram ecodiesel or even my 2500 and it damn sure wasn't cool, but man it saved me a ton of money and never let me down. With a camper shell and the underbed storage it was an excellent work truck.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Piss and moan, but it's what the people buying new trucks want.

The problem is the cheap asses that want a stripper model aren't buying new.
So the average guy just wants leather, Bluetooth, and a ball chilling seat to cruise around in. He doesn't care about fixing it because he'll never own out of warranty and buys brand new.
That's what sells on the dealer lots. That's what the dealers restock with.

If the people who wanted a basic truck had kept buying them, they'd still make them. When Chevy dropped manual transmissions it was because the demand had dropped to less than 8% of new trucks. Everyone says they want one, but they damn sure weren't ordering them to drive the market.

Yup. Trucks aren't for working any more. They are for looking like you work!

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

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2 yards of 3/4- just to freshen up the gravel around the woodshed.

STOP TEMPTING ME!!!

Sirhr

 

[BCP]

It's interesting what you can buy outside of this country, vs most money pits sold here. But keeping you a slave to debt is the plan,...

Would You Buy a Basic Vehicle If You Could? - EPautos - Libertarian Car Talk

Eric Peters is a Libertarian gearhead, columnist and author.

www.ericpetersautos.com

People will say yes but a lot of them cannot handle a basic vehicle. Those toyota cheap trucks are a single cab, 0-60 in like 14seconds, fatass Americans who drive with both feet on the gas pedal would be super frustrated with it after a week or two.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Piss and moan, but it's what the people buying new trucks want.

The problem is the cheap asses that want a stripper model aren't buying new.
So the average guy just wants leather, Bluetooth, and a ball chilling seat to cruise around in. He doesn't care about fixing it because he'll never own out of warranty and buys brand new.
That's what sells on the dealer lots. That's what the dealers restock with.

If the people who wanted a basic truck had kept buying them, they'd still make them. When Chevy dropped manual transmissions it was because the demand had dropped to less than 8% of new trucks. Everyone says they want one, but they damn sure weren't ordering them to drive the market.

Nope. I went to buy a new Chevy One ton C&C in 1973 and could not get what I wanted w/o having other shit added on. The dealer said, the public will buy what we sell and like it. Really? Ok. Walked across the street and bought my first Ford. In 1990 the same B/S happened at the Ford dealer. I could order what I wanted, but they could not give me a true delivery date. The on Highway market in the US has always been a scam past the day GM bought up most all public transportation in Calf, and shut it down to force people into buying cars.

 

[Ronws]

New is not necessarily better. Our spare service truck is a 2022 Ford F-150. Just recently had to spend 2500 to have something with the "power brake assist" fixed.

Never had that problem with my '68 Mustang, '70 LTD (with a 351 Cleveland and traction bars.) My '78 Lincoln Town Coupe or my 79 Skylark. Even my 1996 Chevy 1/2 ton was simple and easy to fix.

 

[JoshPutman]

I'm hoping to have another one of these in the future. I hear Missouri is a good place to find classic iron.

 

[chevy_man]

Yup. Trucks aren't for working any more. They are for looking like you work!

Sirhr

My work truck is a 2018 with vinyl floors and a floor shift transfer case.

But the cruise control, AC, Bluetooth, keyless entry, etc. all make it more comfortable getting to and from work.
I still see a ton of high country and Denali trim trucks being used to haul material and trailers daily. So it's not like they can't work.

I own an older crew cab without power windows and it's annoying. A vortec 5.7 in a 7000 lb empty truck is annoying. Only 4 gears and being on redline in 2nd pulling mountain passes is annoying...

Likely I'm seeing a little different, as all the trucks I see daily are 2500/3500 with service body's, ladder racks, tool toppers, etc. And they're all still used to work.

 

[chevy_man]

Nope. I went to buy a new Chevy One ton C&C in 1973 and could not get what I wanted w/o having other shit added on. The dealer said, the public will buy what we sell and like it. Really? Ok. Walked across the street and bought my first Ford. In 1990 the same B/S happened at the Ford dealer. I could order what I wanted, but they could not give me a true delivery date. The on Highway market in the US has always been a scam past the day GM bought up most all public transportation in Calf, and shut it down to force people into buying cars.

That was a dealer. My local dealer will order a stripper model any day of the week with deposit and a wait time.

 

[TheHorta]

Look at what Cuba has been able to do without a new car imported in the last 50 years.

If we ever do have a legit “Carrington Event” or similar EMP style catastrophe, Cuba will barely notice.

 

[Marinevet1]

I'm hoping to have another one of these in the future. I hear Missouri is a good place to find classic iron.View attachment 8794271

Missouri uses tons of salt in the winter..........you'll likely not find one is Missouri that isn't rusted all to hell...........

 

[chevy_man]

honestly, the best work truck I ever had was a Honda Ridgeline 2006 model. I put 200k miles on it and it went through hell on muddy job sites without ever any issue and even pulled big box trucks out a time or two. Only thing I did was put a back up camera/ sat radio and I replced fan and housing on it. Otherwise it was tires and oil and that's it. I sold it to my best guy and he's driving it with his little enclosed trailer to this day. It wasn't near as comfortable to ride is as my ram ecodiesel or even my 2500 and it damn sure wasn't cool, but man it saved me a ton of money and never let me down. With a camper shell and the underbed storage it was an excellent work truck.

My sister had one. It was great until you needed to haul much weight. She brought a load of pavers to her house and the damn thing was doing a wheelie with 600 lbs in the bed.
If you treated it like an accord it was great...

 

[chevy_man]

Look at what Cuba has been able to do without a new car imported in the last 50 years.

If we ever do have a legit “Carrington Event” or similar EMP style catastrophe, Cuba will barely notice.

We'll all be screwed because there won't be any fuel until we get the grid going again.

 

[SteveC]

My 76 F250 4x4 4 speed manual