Why So Many Young Americans Fall for Socialism.
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Not being smart enough or just an inability to meet military standards isn't and never will be grounds for a dishonorable discharge.
It would fall under a general discharge or other than honorable.
The leadership is busy enough with substandard troops. It takes a long time to get one pushed out the gate, and then you have to wait on a replacement that needs training.
This isn't burger king where you can learn your job in 3 days. There are way too many technical specialties and seriously difficult jobs to allow for mandatory service.
Upgrade training takes a lot of concerted effort on the part of the supervisors and even more on the trainee's part.
Forcing someone into service is a huge disaster, just waiting to happen.
Okay, there is no way anything can ever be changed from the status quo in order to improve a problem. The way it has always been done is the way we will always have to do it. Got it.
You must have had a small shop.
But yeah, hear everything you're saying.
Jeezus. You sound like you live in a sithole, commie city on the west coast.
Shop had 48 guys, my part of the band was six of them.
After turning off my phone last night I picked up my current read, "What Do You Care What Other People Think?" by Richard P Feynman. It just so happened that on page 90 was the following paragraph:
The real question of government versus private enterprise is argued on too philosophical and abstract a basis. Theoretically, planning may be good. But nobody has ever figured out the cause of government stupidity - and until they do (and find the cure), all ideal plans will fall into quicksand.
The real question of government versus private enterprise is argued on too philosophical and abstract a basis. Theoretically, planning may be good. But nobody has ever figured out the cause of government stupidity - and until they do (and find the cure), all ideal plans will fall into quicksand.
The idea of mandatory military service isn't too great.
The idea of mandatory service of some type (military OR some updated true AmeriCorp)? A bit better. If tied into something (benefits, as an oversimplified example).
Mandatory service to vote, or for citizenship? Read some ScyFy Heinlein...
The same spoiled hippie boomers who spent the entire 60s having a temper tantrum and have lined their pockets and their retirements with everybody’s future since.
Should’ve popped a nuke over Woodstock. Would’ve solved a lot of problems.
The fix you propose is related to our education system and parenting skills.
Do you have any idea how many democrats and liberals are actually in the military?
I thought not.
Military service doesn't educate people in politics, capitalism and US history.
The purpose of our military is to project strength and if necessary wage war.
Fixing social and educational problems isn't why we have a military.
Shop had 48 guys, my part of the band was six of them.
Weapons load crew?
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I can see that being a better option. Send the kids into socialist countries for two years and let them live the experience.
You're taking an over simplistic view of something you have no knowledge or experience with.
See, now you're talking.
Part of the problem is not growing up and having to work for things.
Granted, there are still plenty of youth that have responsibilities and get taught a great work ethic and how to think for themselves.
Unfortunately a greater part of youth want for nothing and do nothing to earn what they get.
This is the parental side of the problem.
If the youth isn't taught responsibility and critical thinking, you end up with a child that has been raised and indoctrinated by the fucked up educational system.
Why should the military be responsible to untrain and re-train our youth?
That's like forcing your local police department to retrain your dog who keeps shitting and pissing on the carpet.
It's not their job.
sureSee, now you're talking.
Part of the problem is not growing up and having to work for things.
Granted, there are still plenty of youth that have responsibilities and get taught a great work ethic and how to think for themselves.
Unfortunately a greater part of youth want for nothing and do nothing to earn what they get.
This is the parental side of the problem.
If the youth isn't taught responsibility and critical thinking, you end up with a child that has been raised and indoctrinated by the fucked up educational system.
Why should the military be responsible to untrain and re-train our youth?
That's like forcing your local police department to retrain your dog who keeps shitting and pissing on the carpet.
It's not their job.
Sounds like proper parenting being foisted elsewhere all over again...
Exactly.
I think Alex needs to put his money where his mouth is, join the military and fix all of our social and educational problems using the might of Uncle Sam.
Project 100 K in the sixties was a hoot ,they were cannon fodder in Vietnam and it leaked into the eighties fortunately the east has the same issues .
If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart, but
If you're not a conservative when you grow up, then you have no brain.
-1960's
If you're not a conservative when you grow up, then you have no brain.
-1960's
Capitalism is the answer with a caveat. If someone is a moron you should be obligated to fix them. For far too long people have gotten comfortable hiding behind lawyers and law. Start correcting peoples attitudes or poor behavior (whether it is entitlement or other) and the problem starts to fix itself very quickly. Insurance company doesn't follow through with its obligations/service that you are paying for, well then.
Just a thought.
Make tar and feathering great again
Just a thought.
Make tar and feathering great again
Same here, but from the 40's (49 anywayLOL).
That hit me the other day, I've lived in two centuries and 9 decades.
Believe it or not, Heinlein's original intention of writing "Starship Troopers" was not so that Verhoeven could nearly ruin the story years later, only to have the actors save it from being a total shit show but to show the maturation of young roustabout goofball becoming a man and a contributor of society. In the story, one can become a voting citizen by serving at least one enlistment. Or, in the case of woman so desiring, bearing and raising good children. Essentially you have a stake in what is being voted for with your money. I still kind of like the idea but so many people have a problem with standards for voting. Many is the person who would not qualify if, for example, he could not solve the quadratic equation for f(x)=4x^2+2x+2. Or, to find the first differential of the same equation.
Some would say that is authoritarian. It is not. You just don't get to vote other people's money for yourself with contributing to the pot, as it were.
Please stop posting about the military - you are embarrassing to those of us who did serve
Wont work, bra.Capitalism is the answer with a caveat. If someone is a moron you should be obligated to fix them. For far too long people have gotten comfortable hiding behind lawyers and law. Start correcting peoples attitudes or poor behavior (whether it is entitlement or other) and the problem starts to fix itself very quickly. Insurance company doesn't follow through with its obligations/service that you are paying for, well then.
Just a thought.
Make tar and feathering great again
It's not unlike the drug situation. People have eaten mushrooms of cowshit, eaten cactus that taste terrible, smoked various and sundry substances, and fermented or distilled others, since there have been people. Governments have been trying to stop it for quite some time, putting them in prison, even killing them, and they dont stop. It's part of a basic human nature to want to alter your consciousness one way or another. Youre not going to stop basic human nature.
As I said in another thread (or was it earlier in this one), capitalism may temporarily be better than Commieunism or Socialism, but in the end they will all fail because of human nature. There will always be that 10 or so percent who arent satisfied with just having their fair share, they want your share as well. These are the ones that go into politics, and big business, while the average Joe just wants to be left the fuck alone to enjoy his or her fair share. The 10% are shrewd and take advantage of Joe. doesnt matter if its Capi's, Socie's or Commie's in the end it works out the same. Joe gets fucked until he snaps and strikes back. Sadly, at this point theres enough technology that this snap may be the final one.
There has to be a fundamental change in human nature.
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