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Until moved to Big Sis the ATF were tax collectors. I think they would prefer all gun owners to get screwed one way or another.
Until moved to Big Sis the ATF were tax collectors. I think they would prefer all gun owners to get screwed one way or another.
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(Let this thread Die?) So more people get screwed? Bad idea, I will stick it to this ass clown every chance I get. Chris was more than willing to talk to me at first but when he got my deposit the communication ended.
(Let this thread Die?) So more people get screwed? Bad idea, I will stick it to this ass clown every chance I get. Chris was more than willing to talk to me at first but when he got my deposit the communication ended.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nieko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(Let this thread Die?) So more people get screwed? Bad idea, I will stick it to this ass clown every chance I get. Chris was more than willing to talk to me at first but when he got my deposit the communication ended. </div></div>
I agree - keep thread alive so people will know how big of a piece of shit he is!! Like I said above, he screwed me over a few years back. His wife is a real "gem" too!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nieko</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(Let this thread Die?) So more people get screwed? Bad idea, I will stick it to this ass clown every chance I get. Chris was more than willing to talk to me at first but when he got my deposit the communication ended. </div></div>
I agree - keep thread alive so people will know how big of a piece of shit he is!! Like I said above, he screwed me over a few years back. His wife is a real "gem" too!!
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Chris has built a lot of first class rifles for a lot of people. What is the old saying about casting the first stone?
Shit happens, and there is probably more to the story than you know. And probably more to the story than you should know, give him a chance.
If I ware to start a post everytime a gunsmith didn't call me back in what I considered a "timely mannor" my post count would be larger than 'sticks'
come on, some of you act as though you are not, nor ever have been hit with the current economic issues or bad times. Good for you, because you have managed to escape the other 80% of the population, (you know the ones that actually do something, take the chances and start a business on their own)
And before someone says that I'm a fan. Let it be known that I am. I have a lot of rifles by a lot of smiths, Chris being only one of them, and i do not want to see any of them get blasted in an open forum.
Let it go and take it to personal communication with the smith, who in this particular case is Chris.
Chris has built a lot of first class rifles for a lot of people. What is the old saying about casting the first stone?
Shit happens, and there is probably more to the story than you know. And probably more to the story than you should know, give him a chance.
If I ware to start a post everytime a gunsmith didn't call me back in what I considered a "timely mannor" my post count would be larger than 'sticks'
come on, some of you act as though you are not, nor ever have been hit with the current economic issues or bad times. Good for you, because you have managed to escape the other 80% of the population, (you know the ones that actually do something, take the chances and start a business on their own)
And before someone says that I'm a fan. Let it be known that I am. I have a lot of rifles by a lot of smiths, Chris being only one of them, and i do not want to see any of them get blasted in an open forum.
Let it go and take it to personal communication with the smith, who in this particular case is Chris.
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gbp,
First off, I am a custom home builder so I probably understand the poor economy as much as the next guy but I have never taken a customers money and cut the contact leaving them in the dark-NEVER! I too heard that Chris built fine rifles this is why he got my business and my hard earned money . What he is doing to all of us is unethical and if you would have been burned by him I'm certain you would not be such a big fan.
One other thing, how long should a guy wait for a response? 24 months? 36 months? Obviously you don't have your own buisness or any business sense for that matter. I wouldn't be making it in these tough times either if I operated like Chris. People tend to be way more sympathetic if you communicate with them and let them know your situation.
gbp,
First off, I am a custom home builder so I probably understand the poor economy as much as the next guy but I have never taken a customers money and cut the contact leaving them in the dark-NEVER! I too heard that Chris built fine rifles this is why he got my business and my hard earned money . What he is doing to all of us is unethical and if you would have been burned by him I'm certain you would not be such a big fan.
One other thing, how long should a guy wait for a response? 24 months? 36 months? Obviously you don't have your own buisness or any business sense for that matter. I wouldn't be making it in these tough times either if I operated like Chris. People tend to be way more sympathetic if you communicate with them and let them know your situation.
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So can you file that the firearm was stolen, and have the serial number added to the stolen registry ? At least you might get your serialized part back one way or another
So can you file that the firearm was stolen, and have the serial number added to the stolen registry ? At least you might get your serialized part back one way or another
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I have been watching this thread for awhile and another thread on a different site on Longshot Rifles and he deserves every bit of bashing that he is getting. He kept taking peoples money and parts knowing that he was going to rip them off. What a SCUMBAG.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f37/longshot-rifles-57826/
I have been watching this thread for awhile and another thread on a different site on Longshot Rifles and he deserves every bit of bashing that he is getting. He kept taking peoples money and parts knowing that he was going to rip them off. What a SCUMBAG.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f37/longshot-rifles-57826/
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I went through something similar a few years back. Being out parts and money sucks, but being out an action registerd to you is unacceptable.
I don't know if you guys are out barrels,stocks or what. If it were me and an action is involved, I'd be contacting the ATF, or at least threatening too. I had a rifle "lost in shipping" that was "found" in a UPS hub, dang quick after mentioning the ATF. The rifle had been "lost" for three months, he "forgot" to tell me when shipped. It was found days after mentioning the ATF. This came after UPS informed me they had no record of any shipment from said person to me.
Good Luck.
I went through something similar a few years back. Being out parts and money sucks, but being out an action registerd to you is unacceptable.
I don't know if you guys are out barrels,stocks or what. If it were me and an action is involved, I'd be contacting the ATF, or at least threatening too. I had a rifle "lost in shipping" that was "found" in a UPS hub, dang quick after mentioning the ATF. The rifle had been "lost" for three months, he "forgot" to tell me when shipped. It was found days after mentioning the ATF. This came after UPS informed me they had no record of any shipment from said person to me.
Good Luck.
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I had 3 guns stolen from me about ten yrs ago. Still nothing. I lost hope long time ago on them. This economy is tough...libraries have computers..send out emails. Life is nvr that tough.. save $5 for stamps & send letters out...there are ways. Listen to Dave Ramsey.. I can only wonder what it must be like to have a good reputation as a gunsmith... nvr going to get that back now..should have kept it by being HONEST..probably still have that reputation & maybe get to use that skill again for folks like me in the future for being HONEST.
You have people wanting their money or gun parts and whatever else for that matter. Then you run. I see that has a big hole..quit DIGGING. WHAT IS IT WORTH?
I rite this cause people like yourself want to know what is going on. Your going to get hurt extremely bad either financially or possibly by meeting up with one you phuct over.
Good luck to those who are involved.
I had 3 guns stolen from me about ten yrs ago. Still nothing. I lost hope long time ago on them. This economy is tough...libraries have computers..send out emails. Life is nvr that tough.. save $5 for stamps & send letters out...there are ways. Listen to Dave Ramsey.. I can only wonder what it must be like to have a good reputation as a gunsmith... nvr going to get that back now..should have kept it by being HONEST..probably still have that reputation & maybe get to use that skill again for folks like me in the future for being HONEST.
You have people wanting their money or gun parts and whatever else for that matter. Then you run. I see that has a big hole..quit DIGGING. WHAT IS IT WORTH?
I rite this cause people like yourself want to know what is going on. Your going to get hurt extremely bad either financially or possibly by meeting up with one you phuct over.
Good luck to those who are involved.
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If anyone wants to start a class action civil suite against Chris Matthews of long shot rifles I will start it He owes me my oranigal gun back $4000.00 cashers check for the nightforce scope he was to put on my rifle and work done I also sent him 100 lot of Dakota brass and dies.Its worth it to me to spend the money to nail this crook
Please concact me on a pm I will am going to start a suite any way.
If anyone wants to start a class action civil suite against Chris Matthews of long shot rifles I will start it He owes me my oranigal gun back $4000.00 cashers check for the nightforce scope he was to put on my rifle and work done I also sent him 100 lot of Dakota brass and dies.Its worth it to me to spend the money to nail this crook
Please concact me on a pm I will am going to start a suite any way.
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Darn,
Here i thought my FS threads were Epic.
Its a shame to see a good smith go down in flames like this do to poor business sense and practice.
Darn,
Here i thought my FS threads were Epic.
Its a shame to see a good smith go down in flames like this do to poor business sense and practice.
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you're fishing now, and using a wrong term "class action" but good luck with that
you need to look into the BK laws and who really has control of the assets. right now I would think that chris is totally out of the loop in deciding how assets are divided. once filed the business owner is no longer in control.
did you just join this forum to post in this thread?
If that is the case, You need to get a life and expand your horizons
you're fishing now, and using a wrong term "class action" but good luck with that
you need to look into the BK laws and who really has control of the assets. right now I would think that chris is totally out of the loop in deciding how assets are divided. once filed the business owner is no longer in control.
did you just join this forum to post in this thread?
If that is the case, You need to get a life and expand your horizons
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If he has filed BR, there is an automatic stay at the moment the BR is filed(in TN, anyway). His assets, and yours, are probably in the hands of a receiver.
If he has filed BR, there is an automatic stay at the moment the BR is filed(in TN, anyway). His assets, and yours, are probably in the hands of a receiver.
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Filing Bankruptcy whether Ch 7, 11, 12 or 13 doesn’t excuse criminal activity or actions, period.
If he has filed, all assets, liquid or otherwise, are now in the hands of a Bankruptcy Trustee and awaiting the creditors/debtors hearing prior to his case reaching the Bankruptcy Judge for a final ruling. If he’s accepted into Bankruptcy he will have to make monthly payments unless he’s Ch 11. If he’s making monthly payments to satisfy the Judges ruling and defaults at any time, it’s game on for the creditors and there will be no Bankruptcy protection for him.
This whole ordeal sucks balls for all involved and there may be no way out without a loss. The actions of Chris Mathews can swing towards a civil case real easy unless in can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that your serialized and or non-serialized parts were either stolen or knowingly used by him to fund / complete other builds.
If the local LEO’s or ATF wont get involved, you may be stuck with the loss.
Sorry to hear about all the troubles here. It’s a shame that our society of today refuses to do the right thing when it’s called for.
Filing Bankruptcy whether Ch 7, 11, 12 or 13 doesn’t excuse criminal activity or actions, period.
If he has filed, all assets, liquid or otherwise, are now in the hands of a Bankruptcy Trustee and awaiting the creditors/debtors hearing prior to his case reaching the Bankruptcy Judge for a final ruling. If he’s accepted into Bankruptcy he will have to make monthly payments unless he’s Ch 11. If he’s making monthly payments to satisfy the Judges ruling and defaults at any time, it’s game on for the creditors and there will be no Bankruptcy protection for him.
This whole ordeal sucks balls for all involved and there may be no way out without a loss. The actions of Chris Mathews can swing towards a civil case real easy unless in can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt that your serialized and or non-serialized parts were either stolen or knowingly used by him to fund / complete other builds.
If the local LEO’s or ATF wont get involved, you may be stuck with the loss.
Sorry to hear about all the troubles here. It’s a shame that our society of today refuses to do the right thing when it’s called for.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brenton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The thing Is he still hasn't filed BR I believe through talking to the Morgan county sheriff office and my attorney and his attorney today he wont be able to. He has committed to many fraudulent acts.
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be careful what you post because right now you are alluding to your attorney having had conversations with HIS attorney and stating some things as fact.
Actually I think I am done with this thread
Bye
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brenton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The thing Is he still hasn't filed BR I believe through talking to the Morgan county sheriff office and my attorney and his attorney today he wont be able to. He has committed to many fraudulent acts.
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be careful what you post because right now you are alluding to your attorney having had conversations with HIS attorney and stating some things as fact.
Actually I think I am done with this thread
Bye
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gbp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
be careful what you post because right now you are alluding to your attorney having had conversations with HIS attorney and stating some things as fact.
Actually I think I am done with this thread
Bye </div></div>
About time your done!!! Can't believe anyone would stick up for a frickin thief!!!! Accepting customers funds for a deposit and spending them is one thing, not returning actions,barrel blanks or personel property sent to him to assemble or build on is being a blantant thief. He may have had 'good intentions' when he cashed their deposits, not so when you are selling parts customers sent to you!! Seems the only ones that aren't themselves out money or parts are the one defending the prick!!! Don't mean shit what he done in the past with your build or others it is the present actions or lack of that matter. Kinda like saying I never shot anyone in my life but today I shot everyone on my block, therefore I am not a bad person or a murderer for that matter. Defending anyone who has broken laws or won't return items they don't own are a thief, can't see how anyone could see gray in a black or white picture!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gbp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
be careful what you post because right now you are alluding to your attorney having had conversations with HIS attorney and stating some things as fact.
Actually I think I am done with this thread
Bye </div></div>
About time your done!!! Can't believe anyone would stick up for a frickin thief!!!! Accepting customers funds for a deposit and spending them is one thing, not returning actions,barrel blanks or personel property sent to him to assemble or build on is being a blantant thief. He may have had 'good intentions' when he cashed their deposits, not so when you are selling parts customers sent to you!! Seems the only ones that aren't themselves out money or parts are the one defending the prick!!! Don't mean shit what he done in the past with your build or others it is the present actions or lack of that matter. Kinda like saying I never shot anyone in my life but today I shot everyone on my block, therefore I am not a bad person or a murderer for that matter. Defending anyone who has broken laws or won't return items they don't own are a thief, can't see how anyone could see gray in a black or white picture!
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Wow, I almost did a build with him, but decided to go with another gunsmith. I'm sorry for the trouble you guys have had.
Wow, I almost did a build with him, but decided to go with another gunsmith. I'm sorry for the trouble you guys have had.
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As of yesterday he had not filed anything in either district of the two Missouri Bankruptcy Courts (that is a fact - as far as I can tell from doing the search electronically). Whether he does or not is up to him (and if he has an attorney - his attorney). He can file for bankruptcy protection without an attorney, so its still up in the air. His failure to file bankruptcy means its a free for all to get a case filed and resolved in civil court.
I tend to agree that the thread needs to stay alive, just to keep folks informed. Some of us will pursue alternatives, be they civil or criminal in nature. Others will not; its a personal choice.
Jeffvn
As of yesterday he had not filed anything in either district of the two Missouri Bankruptcy Courts (that is a fact - as far as I can tell from doing the search electronically). Whether he does or not is up to him (and if he has an attorney - his attorney). He can file for bankruptcy protection without an attorney, so its still up in the air. His failure to file bankruptcy means its a free for all to get a case filed and resolved in civil court.
I tend to agree that the thread needs to stay alive, just to keep folks informed. Some of us will pursue alternatives, be they civil or criminal in nature. Others will not; its a personal choice.
Jeffvn
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gbp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Let it go and take it to personal communication with the smith, who in this particular case is Chris.
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It's hard to have a personal conversation with a person who does not reply to emails or answer the phone. I gave Chris numerous chances (20+ pages of emails btw)to make this right before I went public. I even gave him a chance to make things right here (which he has not.) Without this thread I would have never known there was anybody else with similar issues. Look deep into the mirror, if one remains quiet and says nothing they are just as guilty as the criminal.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gbp</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Let it go and take it to personal communication with the smith, who in this particular case is Chris.
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It's hard to have a personal conversation with a person who does not reply to emails or answer the phone. I gave Chris numerous chances (20+ pages of emails btw)to make this right before I went public. I even gave him a chance to make things right here (which he has not.) Without this thread I would have never known there was anybody else with similar issues. Look deep into the mirror, if one remains quiet and says nothing they are just as guilty as the criminal.
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I don't really have a dog in this hunt so it's easy for me to say but, Unless you have some type of reciept from Chris for sending a huge check or a $1000 action, stock, etc. I think your phucked. First thing you learn in business law, in any agreemant, it's BUYER BEWARE. My first two custom builds, I never got a reciept, sent big checks and waited and waited, did I say I waited. One rifle was from GA Precision, the other Longshot Rifles. I guess I got lucky. Even though the bolt knob fell off my GAP first time out. George forgot to put locktite on it. See even your super hero's phuck up.
I know ya'll don't want to hear it and it's much more fun to gather a lynch mob like in the frontier days "get a rope!" Whine and bitch all you want, it's great therapy. Misery loves company.
My Longshot Rifle just doubled in value, cause it's now a collectors item.
Okay, ya'll can pile on me now, this thread will be longer than the "Hot Girl Friends" Thread.
YEEEHAWWW
I don't really have a dog in this hunt so it's easy for me to say but, Unless you have some type of reciept from Chris for sending a huge check or a $1000 action, stock, etc. I think your phucked. First thing you learn in business law, in any agreemant, it's BUYER BEWARE. My first two custom builds, I never got a reciept, sent big checks and waited and waited, did I say I waited. One rifle was from GA Precision, the other Longshot Rifles. I guess I got lucky. Even though the bolt knob fell off my GAP first time out. George forgot to put locktite on it. See even your super hero's phuck up.
I know ya'll don't want to hear it and it's much more fun to gather a lynch mob like in the frontier days "get a rope!" Whine and bitch all you want, it's great therapy. Misery loves company.
My Longshot Rifle just doubled in value, cause it's now a collectors item.
Okay, ya'll can pile on me now, this thread will be longer than the "Hot Girl Friends" Thread.
YEEEHAWWW
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Talked to his supposed Lawyer today, Chris still hasen't paid him anything, He said there would be no bankruptcy until he gets paid. Maybe another Lawyer???
I wish i had that option with my build, I do have reciepts and copies of certified check, for what that is worth.
I too think this should be kept alive, It's the only way i can get any info.
If you haven't lost anything from this deal then i dont think you should tell us to shut up!
Talked to his supposed Lawyer today, Chris still hasen't paid him anything, He said there would be no bankruptcy until he gets paid. Maybe another Lawyer???
I wish i had that option with my build, I do have reciepts and copies of certified check, for what that is worth.
I too think this should be kept alive, It's the only way i can get any info.
If you haven't lost anything from this deal then i dont think you should tell us to shut up!
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there is plenty of ways to prove a transaction, processed checks, MO receipts, ect. As far as actions a shipping invoice with an ins amount.His FFL log book should show receipt of actions or rifles. Printing any and all e-mails for future evidence.
This all sucks for you guys and the more the issues are uncovered the better for everyone.
there is plenty of ways to prove a transaction, processed checks, MO receipts, ect. As far as actions a shipping invoice with an ins amount.His FFL log book should show receipt of actions or rifles. Printing any and all e-mails for future evidence.
This all sucks for you guys and the more the issues are uncovered the better for everyone.
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Im on your guys side and not at all on his. I just think its sad to see this.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Call the ATF, and attorney, whoever you have to to get him shut down and get your money back.</span>
I just hate clicking on the gunsmithing forum and seeing this at the top every time.
If you think he isn't reading this thread to use anything he can against you, you're silly.
Im on your guys side and not at all on his. I just think its sad to see this.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Call the ATF, and attorney, whoever you have to to get him shut down and get your money back.</span>
I just hate clicking on the gunsmithing forum and seeing this at the top every time.
If you think he isn't reading this thread to use anything he can against you, you're silly.
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Sucks when you pay someone and they screw you over. If someone I gave money to that didn't pay me or failed to return my property I'd be filing a police report for stolen property, USPS, contacting the ATF to see what they could do if anything and let's not forget the IRS.
If someone took something from you (cash or personal property) it is technically income to the person receiving it if he fails to return it or provide you with a service. So go to the IRS website and file a Form 1099-MISC and include in Box 7 the amount of cash and the fair market value of the property he received because he failed to return it to it's rightful owner. Remember to include a Form 1096 Transmittal form attached with the Form 1099-MISC. Fill it out the best you can. If you have his FEIN or SSN that would be a plus. If not, leave it blank but include his name and address on it.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099msc_11.pdf
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1096_11.pdf
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf
I'd do this if he stole my money, didn't return my property and before he files for bankruptcy. If this occurred before the end of the year, file it with the 2011 tax forms promptly.
Make him pay taxes and self-employment taxes on the stuff he stole from you.
Sucks when you pay someone and they screw you over. If someone I gave money to that didn't pay me or failed to return my property I'd be filing a police report for stolen property, USPS, contacting the ATF to see what they could do if anything and let's not forget the IRS.
If someone took something from you (cash or personal property) it is technically income to the person receiving it if he fails to return it or provide you with a service. So go to the IRS website and file a Form 1099-MISC and include in Box 7 the amount of cash and the fair market value of the property he received because he failed to return it to it's rightful owner. Remember to include a Form 1096 Transmittal form attached with the Form 1099-MISC. Fill it out the best you can. If you have his FEIN or SSN that would be a plus. If not, leave it blank but include his name and address on it.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1099msc_11.pdf
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1096_11.pdf
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf
I'd do this if he stole my money, didn't return my property and before he files for bankruptcy. If this occurred before the end of the year, file it with the 2011 tax forms promptly.
Make him pay taxes and self-employment taxes on the stuff he stole from you.
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i spoke with the listed law office and like someone else had said. The law office has not submitted any paperwork yet as they are waiting on payment and can not get a hold of Chris.
Has anyone gone forward yet with filing a small courts claim, or anything of that nature yet?
I think i am going to file one of these small courts claims ASAP while there is still the slightest glimmer of hope.
If anyone has any contact info for Chris as well please PM me with it if you are willing to share (just for paper work purposes ect...)
It says on the website that they will return parts and the law office said they advised chris to return parts as well. Not sure what this all includes (parts you sent in, parts he purchased with your money that are laying around??)
time will tell
I just want to get something out of this, a stock, an action, or my money, getting nothing makes me feel sick....amongst other emotions
i spoke with the listed law office and like someone else had said. The law office has not submitted any paperwork yet as they are waiting on payment and can not get a hold of Chris.
Has anyone gone forward yet with filing a small courts claim, or anything of that nature yet?
I think i am going to file one of these small courts claims ASAP while there is still the slightest glimmer of hope.
If anyone has any contact info for Chris as well please PM me with it if you are willing to share (just for paper work purposes ect...)
It says on the website that they will return parts and the law office said they advised chris to return parts as well. Not sure what this all includes (parts you sent in, parts he purchased with your money that are laying around??)
time will tell
I just want to get something out of this, a stock, an action, or my money, getting nothing makes me feel sick....amongst other emotions
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Originally Posted By: SubXerO
I am yet another victim of the Chris Matthews tornado.
I found out yesterday when i check their website about the bankruptcy....awesome.
I had started a build in FEB. 2009....thats right 2009.
Tried to show patience and not contact them much. About three times a year after the first initial 8 months were up (my estimated build time)
Last spoke with him on phone in Oct 2011, he said my build was o the bench (after over 2.5 yrs)
was going to contact him this week (3yr mark) and got the nice surprise.
I should have took legal action about 8 months ago like i wanted to when i caught a whiff that things were headed down hill for them.
(again tried to be nice about it and this is what you get)
Here is a link to Missouri bankruptcy exemptions, not sure how it works but if he still has equipment it seems like lots of it should get liquidated to the creditors but the higher ups get money back before any of the little fish do so, i doubt any of us will see anything
If any one has new news or updates please keep this post rolling it has been the most information i could find anywhere.
Thanks,
and Thank you Chris Matthews for making my first rifle build one i will never forget.
P.S. Due to this i will not have a rifle, therefore i will be selling things (if interested in Premier 5-25x56 genII mil/mil, and or lots of brand new .257 weatherby reloading dies/components shoot me a message, all this stuff is posted also in classifieds on snipercentral and thehighroad)
thanks and good luck everyone
Dont try to sell things outside of the correct forum AND you do not have nearly enough contributing posts. Read the forum rules.
Originally Posted By: SubXerO
I am yet another victim of the Chris Matthews tornado.
I found out yesterday when i check their website about the bankruptcy....awesome.
I had started a build in FEB. 2009....thats right 2009.
Tried to show patience and not contact them much. About three times a year after the first initial 8 months were up (my estimated build time)
Last spoke with him on phone in Oct 2011, he said my build was o the bench (after over 2.5 yrs)
was going to contact him this week (3yr mark) and got the nice surprise.
I should have took legal action about 8 months ago like i wanted to when i caught a whiff that things were headed down hill for them.
(again tried to be nice about it and this is what you get)
Here is a link to Missouri bankruptcy exemptions, not sure how it works but if he still has equipment it seems like lots of it should get liquidated to the creditors but the higher ups get money back before any of the little fish do so, i doubt any of us will see anything
If any one has new news or updates please keep this post rolling it has been the most information i could find anywhere.
Thanks,
and Thank you Chris Matthews for making my first rifle build one i will never forget.
P.S. Due to this i will not have a rifle, therefore i will be selling things (if interested in Premier 5-25x56 genII mil/mil, and or lots of brand new .257 weatherby reloading dies/components shoot me a message, all this stuff is posted also in classifieds on snipercentral and thehighroad)
thanks and good luck everyone
Dont try to sell things outside of the correct forum AND you do not have nearly enough contributing posts. Read the forum rules.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SubXerO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SubXerO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
KYS338 Dont try to sell things outside of the correct forum AND you do not have nearly enough contributing posts. Read the forum rules. </div></div> Technically i didn't try to sell anything just advertised P.S. thanks for contributing to the topic....oh wait...thats right you didn't [/quote said:
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I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks
I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey25</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks </div></div>
Unfortuately you're fucked.....I would beg and plead for your money back...
On a positive note Its $1500 dollars Obama does not get as you can write it off!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey25</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks </div></div>
Unfortuately you're fucked.....I would beg and plead for your money back...
On a positive note Its $1500 dollars Obama does not get as you can write it off!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey25</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks </div></div>
not a whole lot right now.
As stated previously, it does not seem like his bankruptcy paper work has gone through yet so he might be open for lawsuit??
I would send any records you have of your dealings to the listed lawoffice they give on the website so that if bankruptcy does go through, they have you claim and can file it with the rest of the creditors
I have been looking into filing a small courts claim and am going to speak with a lawyer familiar with the issues most likely monday as they prob wont answer today. Once i get an idea whats going on i can send you a PM with what i know....which isn't much other than things might be looking slim. I need to look into this claiming it on taxes thing too as should you.
good luck
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Casey25</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm new to forums so i hope that i am doing this right.
Also new to custom rifles, this would have been my first, but I saved up, and I felt as though I had done my research. I sent a deposit to Long Shot Rifles LLC, and now it looks like I am out $1500. i am only writting this to ask for any advice on the next step. thanks </div></div>
not a whole lot right now.
As stated previously, it does not seem like his bankruptcy paper work has gone through yet so he might be open for lawsuit??
I would send any records you have of your dealings to the listed lawoffice they give on the website so that if bankruptcy does go through, they have you claim and can file it with the rest of the creditors
I have been looking into filing a small courts claim and am going to speak with a lawyer familiar with the issues most likely monday as they prob wont answer today. Once i get an idea whats going on i can send you a PM with what i know....which isn't much other than things might be looking slim. I need to look into this claiming it on taxes thing too as should you.
good luck
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Now we're getting into the "strongarm,"Louisville Slugger Collection Agency" stories. Machoness at it's finest.
Now we're getting into the "strongarm,"Louisville Slugger Collection Agency" stories. Machoness at it's finest.
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Update - no filed bankruptcy as of Tuesday afternoon when I checked the docket.
If you are "involved" with one of these unsuccessful deals with Mr. Matthews, send me a PM and I'll give you the Morgan County Sheriff's contact info and officer in charge. They are now taking an active interest.
Jeffvn
Update - no filed bankruptcy as of Tuesday afternoon when I checked the docket.
If you are "involved" with one of these unsuccessful deals with Mr. Matthews, send me a PM and I'll give you the Morgan County Sheriff's contact info and officer in charge. They are now taking an active interest.
Jeffvn
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Good work Jeffvn!!!
Good work Jeffvn!!!
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Couldn't felony charges be brought up on the monetary value of parts alone he has basically stole?
Couldn't felony charges be brought up on the monetary value of parts alone he has basically stole?
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Problem solved. Thanks PG
Problem solved. Thanks PG
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just found this after trying to email them about a damaged Stiller Action they sold me last year. I just took the action to a gunsmith and emailed them regarding the apparent problem. It got kicked back and then I googled and found this. Anyone have an email for them? Thanks PG </div></div>
Just call Jerry Stiller 972-429-5000 and see if he can get it fixed for you and be done with those guys! Jerry is a good guy and I think he would be more than willing to help you since it one of his actions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PGG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just found this after trying to email them about a damaged Stiller Action they sold me last year. I just took the action to a gunsmith and emailed them regarding the apparent problem. It got kicked back and then I googled and found this. Anyone have an email for them? Thanks PG </div></div>
Just call Jerry Stiller 972-429-5000 and see if he can get it fixed for you and be done with those guys! Jerry is a good guy and I think he would be more than willing to help you since it one of his actions.
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They have offered to try to help already but it sounds like the action might be damaged beyond repair I will know in a few days thansk PG
They have offered to try to help already but it sounds like the action might be damaged beyond repair I will know in a few days thansk PG
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I would think Longshot would be liable for their actions thru fraud or theft by deception at the very least. All a felony and should be prosecuted by the local states attorney, Could also be federal by mail fraud and interstate commerce violations. Bankruptcy for him will not aleviate his liability for his actions. You are not a creditor, per se, but a victim of theft or a scam at the least and depending on age possible violation of theft against a Senior citizen, Just throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, Make his future miserable, he knew what he was doing, no boo hoo--he really is a good guy Bullshit-He is a crook. Hell we have all had problems, but how many of you have worked yourself out of it, he could have done the same.
I would think Longshot would be liable for their actions thru fraud or theft by deception at the very least. All a felony and should be prosecuted by the local states attorney, Could also be federal by mail fraud and interstate commerce violations. Bankruptcy for him will not aleviate his liability for his actions. You are not a creditor, per se, but a victim of theft or a scam at the least and depending on age possible violation of theft against a Senior citizen, Just throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, Make his future miserable, he knew what he was doing, no boo hoo--he really is a good guy Bullshit-He is a crook. Hell we have all had problems, but how many of you have worked yourself out of it, he could have done the same.
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Redx, i dont have a dog in this hunt either. What i DO have is thank yous to you for serving our country and sorry you got screwed. What kind of action did you send him that you got shafted out of? I have a rem700 long action 30 06 B.F. i was going to build a LA 308 out of that id probably give ya so you can get your gun built. Its a perfect rifle i was just gonna use as a donor. I dont want to charge you for it as you have paid your dues to me over and over being in the armed forces. Pm me and ill ship you the action no charge. If of course it fits your stock.
Redx, i dont have a dog in this hunt either. What i DO have is thank yous to you for serving our country and sorry you got screwed. What kind of action did you send him that you got shafted out of? I have a rem700 long action 30 06 B.F. i was going to build a LA 308 out of that id probably give ya so you can get your gun built. Its a perfect rifle i was just gonna use as a donor. I dont want to charge you for it as you have paid your dues to me over and over being in the armed forces. Pm me and ill ship you the action no charge. If of course it fits your stock.
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Hell i even have a couple 308 barrels unfired and a douglas blank id send ya with it, no charge either. just let me know brother.
Hell i even have a couple 308 barrels unfired and a douglas blank id send ya with it, no charge either. just let me know brother.
