Gun Vaults, bunkers and safe rooms

[Ultraman550]

Does anybody here have a gun vault in their home, a room dedicated to firearms with a safe door ( http://www.amsecusa.com/Gun_Safes/Vault_Door/ ) or bunker that you're planning to use in case of a dreaded "cataclismic apocalypse" ? I've been a prepper for some time but haven't gone that extra step in setting up a bunker several miles from home in the mountains. Here in Vegas we don't have basements like I did when I grew up on the East coast so the vault door wouldn't do shit unless the walls were lined with 1" steel, cool looking idea though.

I like the idea of having a bunker but I'm guessing you have to own the land its set in? You can't just go building bunkers out in the woods or mountains and claiming the land like they did when the early settlers first established themselves.

 

[jcfd2201]

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I have a buddy that has a room in his house with a vault door. When he built the house he had the room built and the house built around it. The room was built with concrete block with the blocks filled and a oncrete roof to top it off. The door is now covered with a bookcase that swings open to expose the door. I'm sure there have been people to remodel or modify existing rooms in houses but the ideal thing in my opinion would be to do what he did on a new build.

 

[Prairie Wolf]

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It probably wouldn't be a bad idea if one was building a new house to have one central room with reinforced concrete walls. It would be for a tornado shelter, but could double as a safe room.

If the zombies come, there isn't much you can do to stay safe, other than hide. There's always a way in, or a way to smoke you out. So if you are building a safe room for that, it needs to be a secret room.

A guy I know has a root cellar that doubles as a play house for the kids and a tornado shelter. It is a buried bus.

 

[kraigWY]

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I don't have a valt room, but I do keep my firearms in Liberty Fatboy Safe.

Before I bought the safe I studied it from a Bomb Tech's view, and based on my EOD experience I figure there is no way to get into that safe without totally distroying the contents.

I figure is someone is going to break into my house for my guns its going to be some idiot meth head, who doesn't have the ability.

Someone with the ability would know it would cost more to get into the safe then they would gain.

Plus the Liberty has a better then average fire protection.

 

[TOPDRAGSTER257]

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I am building a house and put in a vault. It is still incomplete as I am trying to finish the house, it will serve as a gun safe, ammo storage area, reloading room and storm shelter. It has 12 inch poured walls, 8 inch poured lid lots and lots of rebar and a safe door.

 

[eli polite]

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My house has hidden compartments. I wont revel that much I built them in my self what I can say is even if your looking for it you wont find it and if you do find it with something like a metal detector you wont figure out how to get into it. Unless you tear parts of my house completely apart. I have though about buying a safe as a decoy and filling it with weight.

I have built compartments in several homes and they are undetectable. your biggest enemy with them is you can you not show it off if so it rely is your best protection

 

[devildogdad]

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I have a friend who has a gun room. the unique thing is, after the house was built he had a seperate carpenter come in and build a book case on hinges. you have to open the bookcase to even see the vault door.When you walk into his trophey room you would never in a million years know there was a gun room hidden there.

 

[Kodiak61]

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I had a buddy in Arizona that built a sweet hidden gun room.

Arizona had the same problems as Las Vegas, no basements. Everything is typically built with slab concrete foundations.

He got proactive and broke up the floor in his garage. Then by machine or man I do not know exactly removed the dirt in his garage to make his room underground. I dont think this was easy and I believe it took him years to complete. I met him after it was long done and just dont recall his story about how long it took.

After finishing his room he re-poured the floor in his garage and I could not tell what he had done. He put the entrance to the room under a closet floor to ceiling shelf cupboard type deal that you typically see in garages. The last shelf on the row was on hinges and casters. He did a good job on this as again I couldnt tell when we walked over there.

None of this was on the plans of the house, none of it permitted and I dont believe he plans on moving any time soon. I thought it was the coolest thing I had ever laid eyes on and have been thinking ever since about how to do it to my house "off the books".

 

[KYS]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOPDRAGSTER257</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am building a house and put in a vault. It is still incomplete as I am trying to finish the house, it will serve as a gun safe, ammo storage area, reloading room and storm shelter. It has 12 inch poured walls, 8 inch poured lid lots and lots of rebar and a safe door. </div></div>

Sounds about like what Im doing. But I went 14" on the walls and It took a semi truck to haul the rebar out to us. This room is going to be pretty big, I have outgrown my other room and I just need more space for reloading.

 

[-Nick-]

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8" is plenty unless you're concerned about someone "driving" through the wall. The most important thing is using a heavier rebar and placing them in a 12"x12" grid pattern which makes it unlikely they could even break open a hole and crawl through.

We did a "Safe Room" once on Bainbridge and the interior walls were block with rebar reinforcement, then 1" hardened steel plate sheeting then another 8" poured concrete walls...

 

[gbp]

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http://www.sportsmansteelsafes.com/safe_room.htm

 

[TOPDRAGSTER257]

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KYS338 how big of a room are you building ?