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Rifle Scopes Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

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997/2man

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Simple yes or no, would you wait 8 months for a scope? What says the Hide?

After 8 months, I said forget it.

Maybe it's just me.

Ordered a scope in July of 2011, 1/2 down, this week was sent the wrong scope.


To me, no scope is worth an 8 month wait.


I must have had rocks in my head, no more Kool-Aide for me.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

It's par for the course with this hobby. At least in my experience;

6 months for a couple scopes . . .

4-6 months for stocks . . .

7-9 months for barrels . . .

My personal best was 16 months for a pistol.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 997/2man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Simple yes or no, would you wait 8 months for a scope? What says the Hide?</div></div>

I have on two separate occasions.

If YOU don't think it is work it, then you have the right to spend your money elsewhere. I won't try to tell you that you are wrong. However it's not that big of a deal to some of us.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 997/2man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After 16 months, did they send you the wrong pistol? </div></div>

No, but I did get the wrong scope after six months. I called and asked to speak to the CEO. Surprisingly, he responded and some heads started rolling. I had my correct scope a week later. Mind you, I had to spend 2k on a scope to get that kind of response.
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Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

If it's hard to come by, and it's what you really want. Yes. I waited two years till I found the gun I wanted at a comfortable price.
 
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No heads rolled, I had to arm wrestle for the correct refund.

It was promised in 4, it took 8.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Apparently you didn't spend enough money.
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Sad, but true
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

In the last year, waaaaay north of $10k. Closer to$13k.

8 months, wrong scope, fail.

I'm going to learn to speak German.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

I would. Been waiting since Jan 2010 for my S&B 3-20x50. Guess it depends if its worth it to the person who has to do the waiting.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would. Been waiting since Jan 2010 for my S&B 3-20x50. Guess it depends if its worth it to the person who has to do the waiting. </div></div>

27 months?? I don't have that kind of patience!
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

I waited about 2 1/2 years for my LRB M25 receiver. I did get the right receiver, but a long wait nonetheless.

I waited 6 months for my first scope and about 4 months for the second one I replaced it with. Still got the right scopes though.

I would be pissed if I got the wrong item after that long of a wait... as of yet it hasn't happened.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

It depends on if I was expecting to wait or not. When I ordered the IOR SH Edition I knew it was a new, not-in-production scope and expected to wait. No big deal. When I ordered my March I was told it would be a 6 month wait (then they called back 2 weeks later and said they had one available, but that's not the point.) If, however, I placed an order for something that was supposedly in stock or shipping very shortly thereafter then probably not.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Current production when order placed, again was told 4+/- months until completion. This was not a new product or first production batch. Had been listed in their catalogue for a couple of years.

New products that are just coming out can go past target dates easily. This was not the case.


My GAF meter just broke. I wish them well.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

I just ordered another Randall knife, current orders are scheduled for delivery in 56 months. Never got the wrong knife though.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Vote with your wallet. That's all you can do

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Thank you.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

This hobby requires patience, both for equipment/components and in the field/range. Just the way it is.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Probably not. Alot happens in 8 months. Funds come and go, rifles get bought and sold, even career changes can happen in that time.

There seem to be alot of "in stock" options in this hobby at the moment. It depends on what you want, what you need, and what you absolutely cant live without.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

The sad part is that I do like their products and would have remained brand loyal.

8 scopes for 1 guy in a year, I don't know, I would hate to see a customer like that walk away.


Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier...
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would. Been waiting since Jan 2010 for my S&B 3-20x50. Guess it depends if its worth it to the person who has to do the waiting. </div></div>


Nice scope, good luck.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Hell no, but it seems to be par for alot of products these days, not just firearms related. Alot of people point to NFA waits, these are'nt due to manufacturing/economy, it's due to deliberate gov't ineptitude. Remember when NFA moved, and suddenly waits went to 90 days, and sadly now we're back to the 6-8 month approval wait.
Anyway back OT, no life is too damn short to be waiting that long on a cataloged item. If your selling it to me, you'd better have it in stock, ready to ship. Too many great alternatives in the market place.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

If I already had a safe full of good glass and this new scope was for a project rifle that i could possibly put another scope on in the meantime, sure I would wait 8 months.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Only if it was free or the scope deal of a lifetime. If I was paying $2-3gs for it, I would be real unhappy if they sent me the wrong one.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 117D-RTO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I already had a safe full of good glass and this new scope was for a project rifle that i could possibly put another scope on in the meantime, sure I would wait 8 months. </div></div>

I've got a bunch of good glass, I actually wanted 3, but because it's really hard (read impossible to see most of their scopes beforehand) I ordered 1, was going to see if I liked it before buying 2 more. RTO I know what you mean, it just sort of got my azz.

It was going on a 6940 I use around the place, and 2 for it's 2 sisters. I found a S&B FD, will be here Wed. If I like it, I'm done.
 
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Definitely sounds like a venting thread.
From your other thread, you ordered an SN12? Probably their least popular scope. I think I heard they sold 5 or less last year or something like that. Not sure why they even still make that scope. (it is not even on their website)
I inquired about the SN12 and ended up going with the SN4 1-4x.

oh yeah, simple yes/no. YES
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ukdave28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds Like you just want to vent. </div></div>

If it happened to you, it wouldn't be tea and crumpets.


Good luck, Governor.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Unless it shot the bullseye behind the shoulder of a galloping trophy buck for me, I wouldn't wait 8 months for optics. There are too many excellent alternatives that I would be most happy with to wait almost a year. And to have the wrong one sent, kinda makes you wonder if it's the craftmanship or business administration that is responsible for the delay.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

No I would not. Especially not on a high-dollar scope.

A scope manufacturer that doesn't have a robust retailer network with the product in stock and immediately available (except for backorders in cases of extreme, unanticipated demand) doesn't belong in business.

The gun industry generally is staffed by good people, but the expansion over the past few years has caused some serious growing pains. In any other market, firms would be flooding to create competition and drive quality and customer service up and prices down, but the gun industry takes a lot of capital to enter and we haven't seen that. What we have seen are firms expanding their lines and offering more products to the market, which is at least a good start down the road to a more competitive, larger gun products market overall.

If the increased demand for gun stuff that has existed for about 4 years continues into the future, I suspect that 9 month waits for barrels and 6+ month waits for scopes will be extreme exceptions, not the norm.

I know that I wish I had a gunsmith shop on a fairly regular basis, because every gunsmith I have seen enter the market in the past few years has been slammed out the door with work within 2 years of opening his or her business, and sometimes much sooner than that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DirtyDave</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Definitely sounds like a venting thread.
From your other thread, you ordered an SN12? Probably their least popular scope. I think I heard they sold 5 or less last year or something like that. Not sure why they even still make that scope. (it is not even on their website)
I inquired about the SN12 and ended up going with the SN4 1-4x.

oh yeah, simple yes/no. YES </div></div>

Too bad they sent me a SN-12R. You know, the one set up for the SPM (Single Point Mount) which is so widely used.

There are a lot of good 1-4x scopes out there, my next one will say S&B.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jimster716</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless it shot the bullseye behind the shoulder of a galloping trophy buck for me, I wouldn't wait 8 months for optics. There are too many excellent alternatives that I would be most happy with to wait almost a year. And to have the wrong one sent, kinda makes you wonder if it's the craftmanship or business administration that is responsible for the delay. </div></div>

Out of the mouths of babes...

Thank you, Jimster.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Absolutely not. There are too many good scopes out there and at almost any price range there are at least 2 or 3 with comparable features. A very particular rifle or part that is new, maybe - but certainly not glass.

I don't think class 2 or 3 items belong in this discussion - that is a whole different animal.
 
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I think one must also come to understand that if you want it right now, you don't order custom optics. That is the name of the game with custom optics; you order what you want and they build it when they get to it. If you want something fast, you buy what is available now.

Shitty that you were sent the wrong one- no doubt about that. And as such, it's totally understandable to decide to go a different route.

Having said that, I am curious if you were offered any sort of compensation for the trouble... say a 10% refund and having your build moved to the front of the line, ships within 3 weeks?

I understand what it's like to have something go totally not the way you thought it would. I made a recent venting post myself with something I experienced with Seekins. But, they explained the first issue to me, then researched the second issue, explained that to me and even took steps to ensure no one else experienced it by adding additional hardware with their product. Did they offer me anything? No... and I'm not the least bit upset by that. Their communication when I inquired was honest and transparent; that and the quality of their product is good enough for me. I just ordered 34mm rings from them two days ago.

So I guess what I am saying is, while I totally see your point, your aggravation and your difficult situation... it might be of some value to also understand you ordered a rarely produced product from a custom optics manufacture unlike any other... who is universally known for long wait times... as well as great customer service and a bullet-proof product. Does that make it okay that it took longer than stated? No. Does it make it okay that you were sent the wrong product? No. But this sort of thing happens from time to to no matter what industry you look at.

Again, I'm just curious what their response was to this and if they made any attempts to make you happy.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

If you order any type of custom part, waiting is the name of the game, some a lot more than others. I've been waiting about 8 months for my custom stock and still have about a month more to go. an 8 month wait for a scope doesn't sound that bad to me, especially if its a high dollar scope that I know is of great quality.

The problem here is that you were sent the wrong one, and instead of arranging something with John and his great customer service, you decided to yell at his employees and complain here, a very mature reaction.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Definitely no. I would look at other brands that are equally better. So much good glass out there.
 
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Nah I wait for you dopes to order it, wait 8 months, then post it up for sale with the message " its on its way but i couldnt wait any longer so im selling it before it gets here"
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DodgeThis</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Definitely no. I would look at other brands that are<span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">equally better.</span></span></span> So much good glass out there. </div></div>

WTF does that mean?
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rhantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just ordered another Randall knife, current orders are scheduled for delivery in 56 months. Never got the wrong knife though.</div></div>


Seriously..??? Over 4 YEARS..... For a knife..??

I mean... I must be missing something here...
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TallShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rhantz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just ordered another Randall knife, current orders are scheduled for delivery in 56 months. Never got the wrong knife though.</div></div>


Seriously..??? Over 4 YEARS..... For a knife..??

I mean... I must be missing something here... </div></div>

You didn't hear- it locates, kills, butchers and grills steaks for you.
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Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 997/2man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 117D-RTO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If I already had a safe full of good glass and this new scope was for a project rifle that i could possibly put another scope on in the meantime, sure I would wait 8 months. </div></div>

I've got a bunch of good glass, I actually wanted 3, but because it's really hard (read impossible to see most of their scopes beforehand) I ordered 1, was going to see if I liked it before buying 2 more. RTO I know what you mean, it just sort of got my azz.

It was going on a 6940 I use around the place, and 2 for it's 2 sisters. I found a S&B FD, will be here Wed. If I like it, I'm done. </div></div>


Sometimes SnipersHide is too rich for my blood.... Jeez...
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

Yes, for a great scope that would be a long-term keeper.

No, for an average scope for which there were many alternatives.

I just waited 7 months for S&B to repair a brand new scope that came with the wrong turrets. Now I'm thinking of selling it since I had to find an alternative while it was being fixed. In 7 months things change!
 
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But on the other hand, whats the fun of not waitin 8 months then bitching about it on a forum where people wait over 2 years for a rifle they will never get.. and paid double what you did for your USO
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Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nah I wait for you dopes to order it, wait 8 months, then post it up for sale with the message " its on its way but i couldnt wait any longer so im selling it before it gets here" </div></div>

Stan, you are a hot shizz!

There is a lot of truth to what you just said though.

"...you dopes..." HeHe. "..before it gets here.." HaHa.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But on the other hand, whats the fun of not waitin 8 months then bitching about it on a forum where people wait over 2 years for a rifle they will never get.. and paid double what you did for your USO
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All right, who let him loose...?


Stan you're the man.
 
Re: Would You Wait 8 Months For A Scope?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am curious if you were offered any sort of compensation for the trouble... say a 10% refund and having your build moved to the front of the line, ships within 3 weeks?</div></div>


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Again, I'm just curious what their response was to this and if they made any attempts to make you happy.</div></div>

???
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 997/2man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The sad part is that I do like their products and would have remained brand loyal.

8 scopes for 1 guy in a year, I don't know, I would hate to see a customer like that walk away.


Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier...

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If I understand you correctly, you had eight amicable transactions with this same company within the year, and now you are upset due to one <span style="font-weight: bold">custom</span> job for which you had to wait longer than the stated deadline?

I have to ask if you've ever hired a contractor. Even in the building industry it's a pretty standard formula to double the time promised, whether it be for a home remodel or a contractor bid on a government job. I don't know if contractors just tend to be overly optomistic, or if they purposely deceive in order to increase the likelihood of securing the contract ahead of some other lying competitor, or maybe both, but it's par for the course, not that that excuses the practice.

Anyway, you should either receive the item contracted or a full refund, and an apology in either case. Personally, though, I wouldn't burn the bridge over one transaction if I had eight prior good ones....unless they didn't make good in some way.
 
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