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Official (DTA) SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Not a great pic, but Brian Muoio makes a great product!!

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Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PSYOPS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not a great pic, but Brian Muoio makes a great product!!

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This is my first post, sorry for just jumping in. Will this thing help protect the bolt channel from debris? If so where can I look at these?
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

As you can easily see from the photos I posted, it does not cover the bolt channel. It would be very difficult to do that and still be able to work the bolt. I did not list Brian's website address in the post because he is not a sponsor here. However, to find Brian's website, all you need to do is Google "Tactical Textile", as was also listed in post above.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Question on trigger creep on the DTA.
I purchased a DTA earlier this year, it is GEN I.

Is this the minimum amount of trigger creep you can get out of it?

http://youtu.be/DZY8hrKYYfc

The rifle shoots great and is .5 MOA or better but the trigger is the only thing, I am not completely happy with. It is nice and light on the pull but the creep is a bit excessive to me.

From the instructions the front trigger adjustment is all the way clockwise.

Thanks
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Hines,

Saw your vid. I've shot two DTA's. They both had much less creep than in your video. They were both gen II. I'd give DTA a ring and see what they suggest.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

my trigger has pretty much no creep so there must be a problem
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Thanks for the responses.
I will give them a call on Monday.

Marcus
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Watching your video reminds me of my duty Colt AR. The trigger creeps twice every pull. Terrible. Unfortunately I am not allowed to have any work done to.it.

I should also say that I am coming from a heavy competition pistol background. I had heard about bullpup designs and their supposed "bad triggers." I paid particular attention to the triggers on the two rifles I evaluated prior to ordering one. One of the examples had a slight amounts of creep, but was still very acceptable. The other DTA had none at all. Not crisp like a nice custom 1911 (my standard for a nice trigger) or a JP rifle, overall not bad, just sort of disconnected feeling, which makes sense if you think of it.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Yep, my other rifles are Remington 700's with very nice triggers.
Nice crisp breaks no "creep" at all. When I 1st starting looking at DTA's, I expected alittle creep but had heard with the proper adjustment you should can remove most of it. But then I also read on someone's post that some of them have a "older" style linkage which can have more creep that the newer ones it made me think I should probably find out if mine was normal or not.

It is an odd feel on the pull as it is fairly light to move the trigger just have to move it alot to actually engage it.

My AR has the 2-stage trigger which you take up and then you have a harder break whereas this is more like just all smooth take up then fire.


Marcus
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Th

Wow, that video showing the creep is horrible. I wouldn't expect that out of a $100 rifle let alone a $4k rifle.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

You cannot do either of those and expect the rounds to magazine. The 300 BO may work once that new 223 conversion by SAC is completed.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mhines</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question on trigger creep on the DTA.
I purchased a DTA earlier this year, it is GEN I.

Is this the minimum amount of trigger creep you can get out of it?

http://youtu.be/DZY8hrKYYfc

The rifle shoots great and is .5 MOA or better but the trigger is the only thing, I am not completely happy with. It is nice and light on the pull but the creep is a bit excessive to me.

From the instructions the front trigger adjustment is all the way clockwise.

Thanks</div></div>

If you have a Gen 1 trigger in it and depending on Serial #, you may, call DTA and they will swap it out for you to the current one and its a major improvement. I have two of the first 100 Gen 1s made. When I sent one back to be made into a Covert they updated the trigger and OMG its sweet. The other one has NO creep at all bit its not as light as the new one.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freerangevoter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone here built or tested a .300 Blackout or .458 SOCOM conversion for the DTA?</div></div>

Why bother with .300 BLK? Get the 16" 1:8 .308 barrel and you can run 220gr+ subsonics -- e.g., using 12gr Trailboss. The primary attraction of .300 BLK is that its subsonic loads will cycle an AR-15.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbooksta</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freerangevoter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone here built or tested a .300 Blackout or .458 SOCOM conversion for the DTA?</div></div>

Why bother with .300 BLK? Get the 16" 1:8 .308 barrel and you can run 220gr+ subsonics -- e.g., using 12gr Trailboss. The primary attraction of .300 BLK is that its subsonic loads will cycle an AR-15. </div></div>

+1
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbooksta</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freerangevoter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Has anyone here built or tested a .300 Blackout or .458 SOCOM conversion for the DTA?</div></div>

Why bother with .300 BLK? Get the 16" 1:8 .308 barrel and you can run 220gr+ subsonics -- e.g., using 12gr Trailboss. The primary attraction of .300 BLK is that its subsonic loads will cycle an AR-15. </div></div>

Interesting point. Are there any off-the-shelf .308 rounds that are that heavy? It seems that most are around 155-170g.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

Loaded subsonic .308 not many -- I think the only I've seen is http://www.ebr-inc.net/762ThumperSubsonic.html.

Load your own. My favorite factory bullets for subsonic .308 are Sierra or Hornady 220gr RN. Hornady makes a 225gr BTHP I use, and it's currently more expensive but Sierra's 240gr BTHP is at the limit for subsonic stability. (Note that ballistic coefficient isn't very important for subsonics; these just happen to be the heaviest .30" bullets on the market.)

The smartest guy I know for subsonics is user bohem, and he says you get much better consistency with cast lead bullets. He casts up to 250gr for .308 subsonics and shoots them with a crimped Hornady gas check.
 
Re: Subsonic DTA?

Hey folks,
I have been reading all 41 pages of this thread and I'm thinking about going with a SRS in 7WSM. Going to put a Benchmark barrel in it. Would you purchase a GEN I and save 10% or go with a GEN II? Your input please.
Sully
 
Benchmark Barrel

There are enough differences in the Gen II design to make it a better long term investment. Both are very capable, but why chose the older design over the more evolved one?

As for the barrel, you can get a 7WSM from DTA using their Lothar-Walther barrels which anyone who owns an SRS will tell you are plenty accurate. However, if your desire is to have a Benchmark barrel, then what you'll need to do is buy a chassis, bolt, barrel extension and magazine from DTA. Then take it to a smith to cut and fit the barrel to.
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Dogtown,
I already have a new barrel from Benchmark(threaded and chambered) for a SRS,(had bad luck(copper mines)with L/W barrels on my Savages)not saying their bad but.. twice is enough for me. So I just need to get the barrel extension (I'll have my smith spin it up) and 300WM (bolt & mag) and chassis. I just was wondering as the extensions are located differently in the recever as you already know and curious if one was better than the other and how so if any? how are the differences better?
Sully
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

The Gen 1 uses a pin to index the barrel to the chassis - it's worked fine for me for years, but it can get bent or damaged and is designed to fail so the chassis is not damaged. The Gen 2 design is far more robust, indexing on the feed ramps which pretty much removes the Gen 1 problems. There are also some other improvements with the Gen 2, but the barrel indexing is the main issue.
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Is there any differences in the smith installining the barrel extension for head space between the two? I wouldn't think so but...? Have you ever or can one change out the pins themselves or is it a smith job?
Thanks for the help
Sully
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

I would guess threading the barrel to either extension is the same but replacing the indexing pin is probably something you need DTA to do. But why guess when you can just call DTA for a straight answer?
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Gen 1 barrel alignment pins can be easily replaced.
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would guess threading the barrel to either extension is the same but replacing the indexing pin is probably something you need DTA to do. But why guess when you can just call DTA for a straight answer? </div></div>

Thanks,
Your correct it's just a phone call away.
Sully
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Indexing pin is easily replaced by the owner. It's a sacrificial pin and if care is taken you will never cause damage. If you gorilla it, like I did, cheap and easy fix.

Russ
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

i'm telling you guys, i'm hard as hell on my gear. i had a gen 1 for years. i never broke the pin. i changed barrels on a really regular basis. NEVER BROKE A PIN, my chassis had thousands of rounds through it.

if you can save some cash and get a gen 1 you will not be dissapointed. And DTA sells all their barrels in gen 1 configuration to accomidate
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Thanks folks for your input, I'm off to get me one of these. I'm assuming the pins aren't delicate but just the same I treat my equipment with care anyway and since I have other rifles set up in other calibers I doubt if will see many barrel changes right off the bat. Who am I kidding...
Thanks again!
Sully
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Mine is Gen1, no problems with the pin. I don't try to break it, but I don't treat it like gently either.

I'm sure I could break it if I wanted, but the same could be said of anything.
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

Hello All,

I'm new to the board and have a lightly used DTA SRS covert coming my way. It started life as a Covert and was purchased new in May of 2011. I've asked the seller to advise me if the S/N started with "DTA" or "SRS" as I am wondering if it is Gen I or Gen II chassis so I can order a caliber conversion. Unfortunately, the seller has packed and sent it and doesn't know the S/N. Are all Coverts Gen II, or is it possible it could be either? Any information would be greatly appreciated as I would like to have a 338LM conversion when the rifle arrives next week. Thanks in advance,
Jim
 
Re: Benchmark Barrel

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RMW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cold - Looks nice. How does she shoot? </div></div>
So far she doesn't, I still need to get dies and the rest of the stuff. I've been shooting the .308 covert barrel quite a bit though, and loving it.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Sweet! Wonder if the adjustable cheek rest will be available to SRS/Covert owners as a retrofit.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Looks awesome but u honestly don't need it, I've shot a SRS with a S&B 5-25, razor, f1, 2-10, and I had no issues with any of em.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks awesome but u honestly don't need it, I've shot a SRS with a S&B 5-25, razor, f1, 2-10, and I had no issues with any of em. </div></div>

I hear ya Joe. Wanted to know because I have a S&B on order. Already have an AI 45 MOA mount that I plan to use for it.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Don't get me wrong if they offered it I woud probably do it too, just cuz but it's not something that should sway anyone from buying a SRS. They are a awesome system.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Too early to say on a adjustable cheek piece on the SRS, if we ever did something it would be retrofittable to all GEN I and Gen II guns though. We have lots of other things on the fire right now.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get me wrong if they offered it I woud probably do it too, just cuz but it's not something that should sway anyone from buying a SRS. They are a awesome system. </div></div>

Agreed, I did a CRAZY ammount of research before going with SRS. Nothing else currently being produced has what DTA has. AI has their caliber change rifle in the works, but even the AI dealers don't know when its coming. When it does finally arrive it will be at least $3k more than the SRS. Now DTA continues with the caliber change HTI. Well done.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

Looks great! I finally got to test an SRS in 7mm WSM last Thursday evening and I must say I'm sold. It had a Premier 5-25 mounted in a Sphur mount and I had no issues at all. was very surprised but that was from a bench and I bet it's even better prone. The only issue I seen with it was feeding from the mag. I had several issues but the ownwer said he needed to tweek the mag lips and I found that a strange statement??? Is this a common issue with the large mags feeding the 7WSM???
Sully
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

I know the 7wsm was giving them issues I don't know how common it is I dont think its that odd to have to tweak mags designed for a different caliber.
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know the 7wsm was giving them issues I don't know how common it is I dont think its that odd to have to tweak mags designed for a different caliber. </div></div>

Hmmm,
I do and... I don't. If a company offers a product designed to work then I don't agree with your statement. On the other hand if an indiviual elects to use a mag for something it's not designed for (done all the time very sucessful most of the time) then I do agree with you. Don't get me wrong I like the system but for the $$$$ I'm getting ready to throw down then... If there are issues I would like to know about them up front and get them resolved.
Sully
 
Re: Idea! Official DTA SRS, HTI, Covert, Hunter Thread

We shipped the first handful of the HTI's last Friday!
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We will have nearly all the pre-order guns shipped early next week and we have a handful of black in stock after all pre-orders ship.

We only have the 50 BMG right now .375CT is 30 days behind the 50BMG's.