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F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

What's the scoop on the air inlets and design in linked photo?
 
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Scoop on the air inlets? That's our Raptor design and hasn't changed AFAIK.

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<span style="font-weight: bold">SEXY AS HELL! </span>
 
Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KNIGHT11B4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like a big ass great white coming straight at you... gonna jack your ass up. </div></div>

And just like a great white you wont know it is there untill it is too late..
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Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scoop on the air inlets? That's our Raptor design and hasn't changed AFAIK.


<span style="font-weight: bold">SEXY AS HELL! </span> </div></div>
There is a photo in the link within your original post.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/27/us-deploys-f-22s-to-base-near-iran/
 
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Not much of a show of force. They've already seen B1 "Bones" at mach over the border...that' scary. This...meant for another mission
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phil1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Let's just hope one of these don't fall into Iran's hands like our Sentinel drone which still pisses me off. </div></div>

Because of this?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/iran-claims-to-be-copying-us-drone/story-fn6e1m7z-1226335814480 </div></div>

Yep. Especially handing it over to China. They're like the US's worst enemy anymore. Ripping us off blatantly while smiling at us.
 
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I get to see F22's almost daily at work, I face out a window at my desk which looks right towards the landing path for lockheed/Dobbins. That's one awesome jet, even if they aren't painted when I get to see them.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BravoSector1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not much of a show of force. They've already seen B1 "Bones" at mach over the border...that' scary. This...meant for another mission
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Iran could easily knock a B1B out of the sky with it's Russian air defense capabilities. F-22's carrying 2 1000lb JDAM's internally however would be extremely hard to detect. I suspect nothing non-stealthy would even cross the border unless air defenses were completely knocked out and with an election coming up I don't foresee an attack in the near future.

So in reality, seeing F-22's parked over the border probably makes Iran a little more concerned knowing they really have no way of stopping them. More posturing then anything, other than training, there would be no other reason for them to be over there.
 
Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phil1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Let's just hope one of these don't fall into Iran's hands like our Sentinel drone which still pisses me off. </div></div>

Because of this?
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/iran-claims-to-be-copying-us-drone/story-fn6e1m7z-1226335814480 </div></div>

Yep. Especially handing it over to China. They're like the US's worst enemy anymore. Ripping us off blatantly while smiling at us. </div></div>


Ripping the US off??

US drug bust uncovers Chinese military export plot

A drugs bust conducted by undercover agents in the US has uncovered a plot to export sensitive military technology to China.

Taiwanese nationals Hui Sheng Shen and Huan Ling Chang were both suspected of attempting to smuggle drugs and counterfeit goods through a port in New Jersey, US, but have since been accused of conspiring to export technology relating to F-22 fighter jets and several US-built UAVs.

US Attorney Paul Fishman said: "Initial investigations into counterfeit goods importation led federal law enforcement to a meth trafficking operation and an alleged plot to export some of America's most sensitive weapons and related technology to China."

The pair were recorded in taped conversations claiming to be working with an adviser to a high-ranking Chinese government official looking for technology relating to Global Hawk, Reaper and Raven drones, as well as stealth technology relating to the F-22 fighter jet.

Shen and Chang later revealed that their contacts were connected to a Chinese version of the Central Intelligence Agency and that Chinese government money would be used to make acquisitions of the sought-after technology.

The US has long suspected China of attempting to copy sensitive information relating to technological advances, particularly in the field of stealth technology. The development of China's Chengdu J-20 fighter jet has been met with claims of stolen stealth designs from the B-2 Spirit programme, while China has also been accused of cyber espionage after a number of hacking attempts on Lockheed Martin computers.

China's J-20 programme is seen as a direct rival to Lockheed Martin's F-35 fifth generation fighter jets, but has been troubled by reported problems in its development. Stealth technology has been hard to develop and several sources have cited that catastrophic failures in potential engines for the aircraft have seriously affected the development of the fighters.

http://www.army-technology.com/news/newsus-drug-bust-uncovers-chinese-military-export-plot/
 
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a f-22 move is a message. the plane move is relatively easy, but all the support needed not easy. this was done for a reason. political saber rattling for at home consumption? maybe. send word to iran that if we want you, we can get you anytime? maybe. send word to israel that we have your back? maybe. send word to israel that try it and we can stop it? maybe. scary times, EH?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">send word to israel that try it and we can stop it?</div></div>

While I think even the Obama Administration understands the importance of Israel, I believe this move sends a message to Israel as much as Iran.

"We don't want you to attack Iran, and if you try to, you'll have to go through the world's most advanced air superiority fighter to get there."

"And oh by the way Mahmoud, that same airplane is on your doorstep, and Israel is our closest ally in the region. Don't do anything stupid."
 
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Hmmm. Don't think US fighters are gonna shoot down isreali jets unless they were shot at first, which they aren't going to do.

Interesting nonetheless.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYpatriot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't think US fighters are gonna shoot down isreali jets unless they were shot at first, which they aren't going to do.
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That's what the crew of the USS Liberty probably thought until the cannon shells started raking the deck.
 
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<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Has the f22 ever flown in combat, or shot down another fighter jet? Just curious.
</span> Never mind, read the article, they have never seen combat.


BoilerUP, I think you are onto something there. I sincerely hope that we would not get into a confrontation with Israel, I dont want one with Iran either though (but its looking more and more by they day that someone is going to have to bomb the shit out of them)
 
Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shaky Dave</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYpatriot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't think US fighters are gonna shoot down isreali jets unless they were shot at first, which they aren't going to do.
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That's what the crew of the USS Liberty probably thought until the cannon shells started raking the deck.</div></div>

Good reminder, but this is a totally different situation. If our guys get locked up by ANYONE they are gonna take notice...the Israelis are not going to act aggressively towards US fighters. Fighting our guys is TOTALLY different than their Arab neighbors and they know it, trust me on that.
A confrontation with anyone is always possible, but in this case it is remote. If it happened, it would most likely be a mistake on someone's part or failure to follow roe, like any blue on blue incident.
 
Re: F22 Raptors deployed 200 miles from Iran

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dark Horse</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BravoSector1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not much of a show of force. They've already seen B1 "Bones" at mach over the border...that' scary. This...meant for another mission
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Iran could easily knock a B1B out of the sky with it's Russian air defense capabilities. F-22's carrying 2 1000lb JDAM's internally however would be extremely hard to detect. I suspect nothing non-stealthy would even cross the border unless air defenses were completely knocked out and with an election coming up I don't foresee an attack in the near future.

So in reality, seeing F-22's parked over the border probably makes Iran a little more concerned knowing they really have no way of stopping them. More posturing then anything, other than training, there would be no other reason for them to be over there. </div></div>

the B1 is a low altitude bomber, it can come in low enough radar can't get them in most cases.
 
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latimes.com

By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

6:51 PM PDT, May 1, 2012

Some of the nation's top aviators are refusing to fly the radar-evading F-22 Raptor, a fighter jet with ongoing problems with the oxygen systems that have plagued the fleet for four years.

At the risk of significant reprimand — or even discharge from the Air Force — fighter pilots are turning down the opportunity to climb into the cockpit of the F-22, the world's most expensive fighter jet.

The Air Force did not reveal how many of its 200 F-22 pilots, who are stationed at seven military bases across the country, declined their assignment orders. But current and former Air Force officials say it's an extremely rare occurrence.

"It's shocking to me as a fighter pilot and former commander of Air Combat Command that a pilot would decline to get into that airplane," said retired four-star Gen. Richard E. Hawley, a former F-15 fighter pilot and air combat commander at Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Va.

He said he couldn't remember one specific incident in his 35-year career in which a fighter pilot had declined his assignment.

Concern about the safety of the F-22 has grown in recent months as reports about problems with its oxygen systems have offered no clear explanations why pilots are reporting hypoxia-like symptoms in the air. Hypoxia is a condition that can bring on nausea, headaches, fatigue or blackouts when the body is deprived of oxygen.

The Air Force's handling of the investigation is being closely watched throughout the military and in Congress.

The F-22, designed and built byLockheed Martin Corp., is considered the most advanced fighter jet in the world. It entered service in 2005, and the Air Force is set to receive the last of its order of 188 planes later this month.

The plane can reach supersonic speeds without using afterburners, enabling it to fly faster and farther. It's also packed with cutting-edge radar and sensors, enabling a pilot to identify, track and shoot an enemy aircraft before that craft can detect the F-22. The Air Force says the aircraft is essential to maintain air dominance around the world.

According to the Air Force, each of the sleek, diamond-winged aircraft costs $143 million. Counting upgrades and research and development costs, the U.S. Government Accountability Office estimates that each F-22 cost U.S. taxpayers $412 million.

While other warplanes in the U.S. arsenal have been used to pummel targets in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, the Air Force's F-22s have sat largely idle — used only in test missions. Even so, throughout the jet's development, F-22 pilots have experienced seven serious crashes, including two fatalities.

Over the years, F-22 pilots have reported dozens of incidents in which the jet's systems weren't feeding them enough oxygen, causing wooziness. This issue led to the grounding of the entire fleet last year for nearly five months, but even after the grounding was lifted the Air Force said investigators could not find a "smoking gun."

Since the F-22 returned to service in September, the Air Force said, there have been 11 incidents in which F-22 pilots reported hypoxia-like symptoms.

"Obviously it's a very sensitive thing because we are trying to ensure that the community fully understands all that we're doing to try to get to a solution," said Gen. Mike Hostage, commander of Air Combat Command, who told reporters in Washington on Monday about the pilots declining to fly.

The Air Force doesn't have specific details on numbers and locations of pilots who have refused to fly the F-22, said Maj. Brandon Lingle, an Air Force spokesman. "We are generally aware of a small number of pilots who have expressed reservations about flying the F-22, and each of those cases will be handled individually through established processes," he said.

There are Air Force rules that say a fear of flying, "whether expressed in general terms or limited to a particular aircraft, is a professional dereliction that carries significant consequences," Lingle said.

Air Force officials maintain that F-22s are safe to fly. New precautions for pilots have been put into place, such as: wearing a device that measures the amount of oxygen in the blood, taking blood samples and watching over pulmonary functions.

Currently, there are hundreds of people in the Air Force, other governmental agencies such as NASA and in the defense industry working to pinpoint causes of the problem, Lingle said.

Lockheed, for instance, has about 20 people working "to bring this physiological issue to resolution to alleviate any concerns," company spokeswoman Alison Orne said.

Neither Lockheed nor the Air Force has an estimated date when the problem will be resolved. The Air Force is looking into whether pilots are not getting enough oxygen or whether toxins are not being adequately filtered out of the oxygen supply, Lingle said.

"We are deliberately stepping through a thorough analysis of both hypotheses and we're confident we're getting closer to identifying a root cause or root causes," Lingle said.

The F-22's issues have also popped up on Congress' radar, said John Noonan, aide to Rep. Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-Santa Clarita), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.

"The Air Force is rigorously examining the issues with the F-22, and Chairman McKeon is closely monitoring that investigation," Noonan said.

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The Associated Press was used in compiling this report.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fighter-pilots-20120502,0,1192307.story
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: InsidetheStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Amazing how the little things (no Oxygen) can cause such big problems... </div></div>

The F22 accident in Alaska a couple years ago led the airframe to this point...yeah the pilot probably made some mistakes, but hypoxia will do that to ya...