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Diagonal Stringing

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have tried to be soft about it and let you think it though. Let me be BLUNT.
If and that is a big IF you can hit in the .1 “any day….any time” you are on the wrong forum. There are multiple BR guys out there who hold significant records that would not make that claim.

I know call me silly.....

http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek077/

http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek0101/

http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of-week/gunweek071/
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Chiller - do you have any experiences of diagonal stringing to share? No? Then please leave.
Or are we just going to spam everything in sight tonight?
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Hey shithead, you need to quit typing what your cock holster is saying. .1 MOA consistently? You are full of shit. Wanna make some real money? Start taking bets from people on here. We'll get someone near you to validate your claim. Money will be in escrow. If you don't want to do that, go back to giving rimjobs at truck stops. Pull your pants up and put away the lotion. This isn't fantasy here. If you shot that well, you wouldn't be asking us wtf you are doing wrong. You fail at the interweb son. The only thing you are diagonally stringing are the beads hanging out of your ass.</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Step up or shut up. I have a $1,000.00 to start things off.</span> </div></div>

Shankster,

IF he can PROVE IT I will buy him a new thunderbeast and cover his form 4 cost....we should be up to about $2300.00 now give or take?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The gunsmith who did the build warned me before completion that the wood stock was particularily soft. I had them finish the build with the soft stock and the rifle does perform, I have obtained groups in the low .3's but I suspect it can do much better.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">scope/rings were removed from a Surgeon 591 and installed on a Surgeon 1086R</div></div>

Surgeon action? Soft wood stock? This is either bullshit or a TR build.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...there are a lot of "snipers, and world class shooters on here that blow things way out of portion. It makes them feel good to put down another shooter instead of taking the time to educate you and help you. Someone helped me once on here so Now I will help you. You asked a question, Your heating up your barrel and for some reason its flexing.</div></div>Not trying to put you down, but Nope, on all counts. He didn't give enough information to be able to diagnose the problem.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BasraBoy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just my £0.02</div></div>According to today's exchange rate your .02 is now worth .045.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BasraBoy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just my £0.02</div></div>According to today's exchange rate your .02 is now worth .045.
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What bank are you using? I got to change! Mine'll only give me $0.03138!!
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Paul,
Dont know where you get your numbers? Your comment of, " That being said there are 6 million guns in the U.S. Do the math" By the statistics I am able to find there are approximately 200 million firearms in the United States. Assuming an equal distribution of pistols, shotguns, and rifles that would only put your assertion off by an order of magnitude. As you adeptly point out, "do the math".
I am glad that once again you can add to the discussion with yet another "known" assertion. To the best of my knowledge the barrel contour and the rate at which the rounds were shot have not been stated. How do you "know" the barrel is the problem?

But what do I know?

As you adeptly pointed out there are only 10 records from the benchrest community that were in the .1 and me just being silly, I dont think they occoured all day.....any day......
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will offer some insight to this matter. Your barrel is most likley medium to thin tapper. It is heating up causing the barrel to flex, this will cause a string in your shooting.

To answer some other questions, if you have a gun that will shoot .1 your doing well. For example the world records are as follows, from the IBS (International Bench Rest shooters)

J Neary group size 5 shot .060 August 10th 2005

R Maretzo group size 10 shot .119 September 10th 1983

Now there are 10 guns that shot under the .10 group size listed on the above mentioned sight. That being said there are 6 million guns in the U.S. Do the math, your probably shooting around a .25 group. But not if your stringing them. If you doing that your groups are outside of one inch.

I have learned the hard way, that there are a lot of "snipers, and world class shooters on here that blow things way out of portion. It makes them feel good to put down another shooter instead of taking the time to educate you and help you. Someone helped me once on here so Now I will help you. You asked a question, Your heating up your barrel and for some reason its flexing. </div></div>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I have learned the hard way, that there are a lot of "snipers, and world class shooters on here that blow things way out of portion. It makes them feel good to put down another shooter instead of taking the time to educate you and help you. Someone helped me once on here so Now I will help you. You asked a question, Your heating up your barrel and for some reason its flexing. </div></div>

I just have a strong aversion to BS

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Reading this thread as it has grown, I'm simply dumbfounded at the original premise. The OP is complaining that a .300 WinMag is only shooting 1/3 MOA groups at 100 yds due to diagonal stringing. Seriously dude, .300 WinMag holes in a 1/3 MOA group are so closely overlapped that I seriously doubt you can say anything statistically meaningful about whether they were diagonal, vertical, or horizontal. On top of that, the OP has over 300 posts and doesn't even seem to know who the moderators are.

Most importantly, I would ask the OP the following question: why the hell are you wasting time shooting groups at 100 yd with a 1/3 MOA .300 WinMag??? You ought to have that rifle out learning to get 1st round hits at 1500 yd.
 
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Guys, come on. I'm new here but even I see the obvious answer here. Nowhere has he posted the distance at which he was shooting. Shame on us for assuming 100 yards.

Op, I'm guessing your stringing is coming from the paper tearing as the 2nd and 3rd rounds pass through the first hole. Could also be the muzzle blast hitting the paper and tearing it diagonally. Carry on, I wish I could shoot .1 all day any day. But alas, my range doesn't allow rifles on the pistol range.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew H</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Could also be the muzzle blast hitting the paper and tearing it diagonally.</div></div>

This
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys, come on. I'm new here but even I see the obvious answer here. Nowhere has he posted the distance at which he was shooting. Shame on us for assuming 100 yards.

Op, I'm guessing your stringing is coming from the paper tearing as the 2nd and 3rd rounds pass through the first hole. Could also be the muzzle blast hitting the paper and tearing it diagonally. Carry on, I wish I could shoot .1 all day any day. But alas, my range doesn't allow rifles on the pistol range. </div></div>

If it was further than 100 yd, the premise of this thread is even more ridiculous.
 
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Chiller,

I was refering to bench rest shooting guns. Your number of 200'000,000 guns seams to be off by 110,000,000 guns as of 2009. So I wonder how many more are out there. That just adds to what I am saying.

Graham ------ You said no to my answer and there was not enough information... I clearly **Assumed** that he had a lite or medium tappered barrel. I have seen this in alot of thin Barreled hunting rifles. They start "walking" as they warm up.
 
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confucious once say "Hey shithead, you need to quit typing what your cock holster is saying. .1 MOA consistently? You are full of shit. Wanna make some real money? Start taking bets from people on here. We'll get someone near you to validate your claim. Money will be in escrow. If you don't want to do that, go back to giving rimjobs at truck stops. Pull your pants up and put away the lotion. This isn't fantasy here. If you shot that well, you wouldn't be asking us wtf you are doing wrong. You fail at the interweb son. The only thing you are diagonally stringing are the beads hanging out of your ass.

Step up or shut up. I have a $1,000.00 to start things off."
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chiller,

I was refering to bench rest shooting guns. Your number of 200'000,000 guns seams to be off by 110,000,000 guns as of 2009. So I wonder how many more are out there. That just adds to what I am saying.

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Paul,

You are now saying there are 90,000,000 BR firearms? Where do you get your numbers?

Benchrest

Simple Search

How does your comment bolster your assertion? Based on the link, the best of the best are not hitting .1 MOA on a regular basis with platforms that are specifially tailored for this, much less a .300WM in a "soft stock". Perhaps something was lost in the translation?



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Graham ------ You said no to my answer and there was not enough information... I clearly **Assumed** that he had a lite or medium tappered barrel. I have seen this in alot of thin Barreled hunting rifles. They start "walking" as they warm up. </div></div>

that is the POINT.


The OP's comments and assertions are full of assumptions and speculation that have little to no supporting evidence. Everyone and their respective dog posts pictures of their targets.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/ontarget-software-measures-groups/

There is the link for the software. In addition it is FREE.
To date the OP has yet to produce anything more than significant chest pounding.
 
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There was an SH Challenge thread here a while ago. And if I remember correctly, nobody was able to shoot under a .25 MOA 5X5. One guy got a .3 agg. I have agged around a .3 5X5 with my Tac Ops. Once. I haven't really been able to repeat, but I stopped trying much after that target.

Mike Miller beat .25 MOA at 200 yards with his Tac Ops. Of course, all of this is prone with a bipod.

I have shot a couple of one holer 3-shot groups, but these are at completely random intervals and not the norm. I can't do it on command. I suspect very few can.

So the point is you want to keep shooting until you shoot a group that is in the .1's? And what does that prove? What matters is what you can shoot consistently and that matters so that you will know your own limitations.
 
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I agree with everything you are saying.

The point that I am trying to illustrate is that the OP’s credibility is suspect based on a few observations. The .1 MOA reference essentially at will (besting many International Benchrest records). The lack of any supporting or corroborating evidence of said skill. When asked or challenge to produce or reproduce said skills the OP has become indignant.

I would love to see some verifiable evidence to support his claim. If they exist I will be first in line to acknowledge that level of skill. I would love to learn from people with skills that FAR exceed my own. I am continually trying to improve MY skills in my tool kit.
 
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I hate to get into this, but the obvious thing is that if you shoot a .1 group, ther isn't any stringing. It would look like 1 hole. I know that and I am realatively new to long range shooting. I mean this is a 5 shot group that I am proud of and it is roughly .4 to .5 of an inch and there is hardly any noticeable stringing.

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I just want to know if he can hit a can of Dinty Moore at a mile...that's what is important.
 
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Chiller,

My point was that he is probably not shooting a .1 group. If there is only ten people out there able to do it, he probably was not being able to do it.
 
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I shoot groups at least that small all the time with my box stock Remmy 5R & MK4. And then I go and spoil it with the second shot.
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OFG
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldfatguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot groups at least that small all the time with my box stock Remmy 5R & MK4. And then I go and spoil it with the second shot.
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OFG </div></div>

I have the same damn problem, I wonder if the OP could help me with that. He is obviously a pro shooter who could probably hit a penny at a mile and a half with his trusty .308 win.

Man, you coming on here and making BS claims like that make all of us new to the forum look bad. If you can do something unbelievable, you better post some damn proof if you want us to believe it. If you can't, then you need to shut your mouth and take advice if you actually want to become a respected member here one day. I'm tired of all the people who come here to fuel their ego, and as soon as anyone criticizes them, they become masters of precision shooting.

OK, that's the end of my drunken rant.
 
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Y'all are some serious haters and sceptics!

Most Savages shoot .1moa right out of the box with FGMM all day long if the shooter does their part...
 
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Im in agreements with chiller. I read that article and have met one of the men in that article, Don Geraci. He lives here in independence la and he's the smith who built my .308 bolt gun. I have personally seen what this old fart can do with a rifle and it is amazing. At 300 yards his groups are a lot tighter than mine are at 100. I have witnessed this man shoot and can vouch for his skill. My best group ever at 100 was 5 shots at about .375". If theres someone out there doing .1 moa with a 300 win mag there better be proof or the bullshit flag will wave for all to see from me
 
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Just coming back to this thread. After reading through some of these, all I can say is wow. Some spiteful people here. And the problem is I am not sure why. I don't care if you believe me a 0.1 MOA rifle exists or not. My question was if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before.

I'll put it another way, if I disagree with someone on the internet to the point where I know they are full of it, why should I care enough to curse at someone, etc, etc.? This is just the internet. It does not matter. So calm down everyone. And please read a book, or get a hobby. Many people here come off as extremely immature.

Bottom line: Not sure I would want a youth interested in the shooting sports to read this rubbish.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: s.i.t.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im in agreements with chiller. I read that article and have met one of the men in that article, Don Geraci. He lives here in independence la and he's the smith who built my .308 bolt gun. I have personally seen what this old fart can do with a rifle and it is amazing. At 300 yards his groups are a lot tighter than mine are at 100. I have witnessed this man shoot and can vouch for his skill. My best group ever at 100 was 5 shots at about .375". If theres someone out there doing .1 moa with a 300 win mag there better be proof or the bullshit flag will wave for all to see from me </div></div>

I am the OP. Please point out where I said I am shooting 0.1 MOA with a 300 WM? I said I was convinced the rifle can do it. The claim is based on a similar build I own in 260 Rem. I don't really care who in cyberspace believes me or not. And if I told you the builder many more may agree. But it's a moot point. My question is if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before and what they did about it.

Thanks anyway.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldfatguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But 0.1 MOA? Really? And also with your .260?


OFG

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What?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zwhetz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldfatguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot groups at least that small all the time with my box stock Remmy 5R & MK4. And then I go and spoil it with the second shot.
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OFG </div></div>

OK, that's the end of my drunken rant. </div></div>

Perfect.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just coming back to this thread. After reading through some of these, all I can say is wow. Some spiteful people here. And the problem is I am not sure why. I don't care if you believe me a 0.1 MOA rifle exists or not. My question was if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before.</div></div>

If I may I don't think it has anything to do with spite. First of all, absolutely everyone has experienced stringing at some point. But that wasn't your premise or presentation. As to the .1 rifle of course it exists, so do .1 shooters in extremely rare form. Diagonal stringing could be your barrel/rifle, could be trigger issues although you claim two shooters shot exactly the same group (without photograhic evidence I might add) or a number of other things.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll put it another way, if I disagree with someone on the internet to the point where I know they are full of it, why should I care enough to curse at someone, etc, etc.? This is just the internet. It does not matter. So calm down everyone. And please read a book, or get a hobby. Many people here come off as extremely immature. </div></div>

Maybe so, also many people come off as full of bullshit when making unsubstantiated claims. This is the internet, but this site does take a somewhat serious view of trying to actually address issues and when you start getting defensive, telling mods off, refusing to provide additional information on a very broad subject then it just smacks of immaturity yourself.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bottom line: Not sure I would want a youth interested in the shooting sports to read this rubbish. </div></div>

I think you need a little more thought on this before you post a comment like that in this forum
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: billyburl2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would like to see pics, please. </div></div>

Of what? Please read first post.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My question is if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before and what they did about it.</div></div>One time I sought professional instruction. Another time I stopped using that lot of Hornady Superformance. Do any of these answers tell you anything without any other context?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 175G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just coming back to this thread. After reading through some of these, all I can say is wow. Some spiteful people here. And the problem is I am not sure why. I don't care if you believe me a 0.1 MOA rifle exists or not. My question was if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before.</div></div>

If I may I don't think it has anything to do with spite. First of all, absolutely everyone has experienced stringing at some point. But that wasn't your premise or presentation. As to the .1 rifle of course it exists, so do .1 shooters in extremely rare form. Diagonal stringing could be your barrel/rifle, could be trigger issues although you claim two shooters shot exactly the same group (without photograhic evidence I might add) or a number of other things.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll put it another way, if I disagree with someone on the internet to the point where I know they are full of it, why should I care enough to curse at someone, etc, etc.? This is just the internet. It does not matter. So calm down everyone. And please read a book, or get a hobby. Many people here come off as extremely immature. </div></div>

Maybe so, also many people come off as full of bullshit when making unsubstantiated claims. This is the internet, but this site does take a somewhat serious view of trying to actually address issues and when you start getting defensive, telling mods off, refusing to provide additional information on a very broad subject then it just smacks of immaturity yourself.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bottom line: Not sure I would want a youth interested in the shooting sports to read this rubbish. </div></div>

I think you need a little more thought on this before you post a comment like that in this forum </div></div>

What? Your signature under your screen name sums it up.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My question is if anyone had experienced regular diagonal stringing before and what they did about it.</div></div>One time I sought professional instruction. Another time I stopped using that lot of Hornady Superformance. Do any of these answers tell you anything without any other context? </div></div>

Graham,
I do not believe it is the shooter in this case. Of course two individuals could shoot with same method, etc. And the stringing has occured with multiple handloads, bullets, powders, etc. I have used the same primers (Fed 215m), so that could be an issue.

Last night one of the posts suggested checking my actions screws. I might start there then check scope screws, etc.

thanks
Jay
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're looking at 3 round groups. And yes I know the rifle will do it, but thanks for asking. </div></div>

If you "know" this to be true then there should be something that supports that knowledge. Perhaps you can show me the flaw in that logic?

That sure looks like you are saying it can do it. Or perhaps I am reading that wrong?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're looking at 3 round groups. And yes I know the rifle will do it, but thanks for asking. </div></div>

If you "know" this to be true then there should be something that supports that knowledge. Perhaps you can show me the flaw in that logic?

That sure looks like you are saying it can do it. Or perhaps I am reading that wrong? </div></div>

I am saying I am convinced it can do it, based on a similar build, albiet different caliber. My main point is I know it can shoot better, hence the search for the cause of the peculiar stringing. This is a better than average group than what it has done so far
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3 rounds, 100 meters.
 
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Not addressed in particular to the OP, but:

It amazes me how many people have recently come to this site for advice, failed to give meaningful details about their 'problem', steadfastly refused to employ any critical thinking and instead whined about the lack of quality of the responses and insulted other members.

Is there some kind of rule for the entitlement generation that one must pitch a fit in public until someone spoon-feeds them the answer, or the grade, or offers them free stuff in return for calming down or going away?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not addressed in particular to the OP, but:

It amazes me how many people have recently come to this site for advice, failed to give meaningful details about their 'problem', steadfastly refused to employ any critical thinking and instead whined about the lack of quality of the responses and insulted its other members.

Is there some kind of rule for the entitlement generation that one must pitch a fit in public until someone spoon-feeds them the answer, or the grade, or offers them free stuff in return for calming down? </div></div>
Or if all else, say you made an ass of yourself and acted immaturely. It's ok just say, ok sorry I behaved badly. Here is what I am trying to figure out....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not addressed in particular to the OP, but:

It amazes me how many people have recently come to this site for advice, failed to give meaningful details about their 'problem', steadfastly refused to employ any critical thinking and instead whined about the lack of quality of the responses and insulted its other members.

Is there some kind of rule for the entitlement generation that one must pitch a fit in public until someone spoon-feeds them the answer, or the grade, or offers them free stuff in return for calming down? </div></div>

Graham,
I agree with previous threads, but this is not the case here. Go back and read this post line by line. I was aggravated that others were more worried about a .1 MOA claim than just sharing experinces with stringing issues. But not enough to curse people and rant.

Jay
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jay,

Engaging you in a civil discussion and asking for reasonable information is tantamount to

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That's funny - my wife could have posted that.
 
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Understand that asking in general about other people's experiences with 'diagonal stringing' will tell you nothing meaningful about your particular issue. You might be more successful in your quest if, in addition to seeking the advice of experienced people, you also let them help you.
 
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It's been a long day at work and I am just too tired to keep up this thread. I did glean a couple good pointers amidst the rubble, and thanks to those who did help.

Jay
 
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Jay: RL25 is temp sensative and may be part of the problem. What are you build specs, scope, and how are you shooting the rifle, i.e., free recoil, bags, bipod etc.?
 
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Beyond all this discussion Jay, you can honestly tell nothing about how a rifle groups with 3 rounds.

Generate a fourth degree polynomial with three points.

There are far TOO MANY unknowns to answer your question (assuming there is a question to answer)
 
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