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Froglube...

BayouRobert

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Tried it for the first time this weekend and so far it seems the cure for the "gritty first stage syndrome" that develops when I shoot my SBR's suppressed.
I've tried all sorts of lubes and never really found one to keep the Geissele's first stage "just cleaned slick" for extended suppressed shooting.
I went through 200+ rounds Sunday morning (10.5 6.8SPC/M4-2000), and in the end my Hi-Speed Match Geissele felt just as smooth as before I started.
I just warmed the sear with a hairdryer and spread on the paste version.
 
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I need to try some of this stuff (heard a lot of good things)...Does it chip/flake off once it cools down or is it like wax?
 
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Like a soft wax. I think just the heat from your hands would partially melt a clump of it. Once home, and rifle cooled, both trigger and hammer sear surfaces still had nice semi-solid mounds of it still in place.

I don't know why it stays so slick compared to other lubes, and it seems to stay put.

Gonna try it on the carrier, et al next trip out.
 
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I have been running it for a month, on everything from my G19, 870, and all my AR-15's and i can't complain. the stuff just works!
 
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I know a vendor. This lube is awesome. We lubed a M240 up with it and it had no stoppages. I have used it on countless AR platforms and M1A as well. I put it on my Rem 700 and it sat in a closet for 6 months. Took it out and it looked and felt the same as when I put it in. It comes in a paste and a liquid. If you follow the directions it is better. If anyone is intrested in getting it from a vendor let me know.
 
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another satisfied user of froglube CLP. i use it on all my firearms and agree... it just works! i really like the all natural part of it as well.
 
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Ive used it for over a year now and don't use anything else. I met one of the guys at shot show 2010(brother of the seal) and he was very nice and gave me a couple samples. I really like this lube.
 
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I hear lots of great things about it... but I never had any issues with other oil. so it confuses me why people keep switching. some use motor oil and their weapons work and work and work...
 
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Shooting with Bigjoe onetime, I met the guy who makes it. He is and someone correct me if Im wrong, Hes an ex-seal team guy.. Super nice guy.. The stuff is pretty awesome. He gave me a big ole sack of it and said DONT make me take this home..lol


Ch
 
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taseal- nice part about the Frog is you can carry it in your gear bag and never worry about it leaking all over!!
Ch- affirm on the "seal team guy"

I prepped my new rifle prior to break in and never needed to use a copper cleaner.... checked the barrel with JDM's bore scope and it was amazingly clean.My Sig slide acts like its on bearings.. cant sa enough 'bout the Frog

Mark
 
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Got some, but haven't done a tear down to do a full lube. Good to hear about the success of the product!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jrb572</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Liquid or paste? Or does it matter?
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I'll have to order some.. I'm low on lube (no jokes please).
 
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For me - liquid to clean or for rust prevention and paste for moving parts like bolt carrier or sear.
 
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I use the paste as it stays where you put it. Once everything becomes coated it really doesnt matter
 
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OK. I know I am digging up a "dead, old horse". For those who have been using Froglube for a few more months now, what's your long term assessment of this stuff? I am contemplating switching to Froglube if it really works.
 
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I have used it for a couple months now and am really impressed with it.

I stripped all the lube from my AR's upper and lower then sat it out in the sun on one of those nice, hot SoCal days. It got friggin HOT let me tell you, and then I painted it inside and out with the paste, save for the forearm and barrel exterior and the trigger group. Let it bake a little longer in the sun and then wiped it down with a micro fibre cloth. I lubed the bolt and carrier as well as the upper interior lightly with the liquid. It really made the finish look damn near new and it functioned nice and smoothly.

The next day I put 300 rounds through the weapon. Took it home and damned if it didn't just wipe clean, no cleaner needed. I added a light film of the liquid to the above mentioned areas and put in the safe for 2 weeks.

Two weeks later, 500+ rounds over a weekend, no cleaning or lubing in between Saturday and Sunday with no FTF/FTE or any other stopages. Ran it "hard" a couple times and all good. Left it 3 days before cleaning it and it just wiped clean. I decided to heat the gun up in the sun and paint the paste on again this past weekend just cuz. I like the stuff...
 
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I like the paste for my AR's because it doesn't get blown out between the upper and lower shooting suppressed. Also I took some paste and put it in a pie pan and used a torch to boil it, when it cooled it was still lube not sticky sludge.
 
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I have put it on my ar15, pistols, and sks and it seems to work great. It seems slick even after shooting many rounds. By far my favorite part about FL though, is that when I clean the weapons treated with FL, it all just wipes off, no mess! Smells good too!

I am unsure if I am going to switch to it on all my rifles, but will definitely use it in some way on all of them. I am only concerned mainly with using it on the BBL. Have any of you guys noticed any issues with using it as a replacement for the inside of the BBL?
 
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I've used it and it works fine, but didn't think it was any better than other good lubes on the market like SLIP2000, except that it is supposed to be biodegradable.
 
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Where does frog lube compare to TW25B as far as slickness and the lube's ability to stay where it is put and not make a mess?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: emvampyre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The next day I put 300 rounds through the weapon. Took it home and damned if it didn't just wipe clean, no cleaner needed. I added a light film of the liquid to the above mentioned areas and put in the safe for 2 weeks. </div></div>

When you reapply after cleaning, do you have to heat up the parts again?

Also, when you wipe it clean, do you have to use any liquid cleaner like MPro7 or just wipe it down with a dry, clean cloth?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BayouRobert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For me - liquid to clean or for rust prevention and paste for moving parts like bolt carrier or sear. </div></div>

I thought they are interchangeable?? Just that liquid is needed to lube areas that is harder for paste to reach?
 
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I like it on my TRP .45 I use it as cleaner and lube, works great and smells good too. I'm gonna use it on my AR when it gets here as well.
 
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I use it to lube all of my stuff. ARs come clean with a quick wipe out, pistols are the same way. After every 3rd wipe out (1k plus rounds) I reapply the paste, heat it up, let it dry and wipe off the excess
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use it to lube all of my stuff. ARs come clean with a quick wipe out, pistols are the same way. After every 3rd wipe out (1k plus rounds) I reapply the paste, heat it up, let it dry and wipe off the excess </div></div>

This is super convenient! Even I can live with that!
 
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I saw some at a overpriced LGS. and the FL was overpriced too... I was almost going to bite, but could'nt spend the almost 30 dollars for the kit
 
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At my LGS, the paste is $10 and the liquid one is $17. I much prefer to use the paste at this price. You really don't need the kit. Just find yourself a small brush and some rug.
 
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I think a heat gun would come in handy, too. Especially during the rainy months when sunshine is at a premium.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1kOrBust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think a heat gun would come in handy, too. Especially during the rainy months when sunshine is at a premium. </div></div>

just use an old hairdryer.
 
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I use a heat gun and it heats up all big and small pieces of metal really fast! Of course, I am careful not to use it too much on plastics pieces.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: taseal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hear lots of great things about it... but I never had any issues with other oil. so it confuses me why people keep switching. some use motor oil and their weapons work and work and work... </div></div>

I use it because it's a CLP "like" product does cleaning, lubricates and protects with one product! I wanted to avoid using different cleaners, protectants and lubes. Froglube makes it easier!
 
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Bit of a long post, but here are the application instructions:



Recommended Weapon Maintenance Instructions

Directions for use:
The following procedure should help you reduce your maintenance time and frequency intervals to insure the full, long-lasting performance of your weapon. You should use standard weapons cleaning tools such as nylon brushes, bore patches and brushes, Q-tips, bore snakes and cloths1. Since FrogLube is 100% biodegradable, you can select a premium grade cloth which you may launder in a washer and dryer. FrogLube recommends laundering separately. When used in accordance with these instructions, FrogLube delivers a slick and slippery finish that shoots dry, wicks to the surface when warmed and dissolves carbon on contact.

PREPARATION
1) Your new weapon is likely factory-treated with a lubricant or protectant of a petro-chemical substance or you may have used a petrochemical or other substances on your weapon.
2) For your first application; for best performance, it is preferred to remove any petro-chemicals from your weapon using rubbing alcohol or equivalent prior to applying FrogLube.
(If pre-cleaning is not practical or desired, FrogLube will penetrate and eventually dissolve corrosive petrochemical present on the weapon.)
3) Clean ALL surfaces with FrogLube - it works as both a cleaner and degreaser that does not leave a residue.
NOTE: You should eliminate the use of petrochemical-based cleaners and lubricants of a different chemistry since they negate the affects of a FrogLube-treated weapon.

APPLICATION/TREATMENT

1.) For best results, the metal should be warmed. 15 min of direct sunlight or equivalent (hairdryer), is long enough to allow for thorough warming. When the metal is warmed, the rate of FrogLube absorption is increased.

2.) Treatment: Apply a sufficient amount of paste or liquid to warmed metal and all operating parts. Apply a generous amount to a bore brush and vigorously scrub the bore. Allow time for FrogLube to penetrate. FrogLube penetrates the metal pores of cleaned parts and establishes a foothold on and beneath the metal surface. Wipe off excess with a microfiber cloth. Remember, penetration time is increased with heat. Best to use a small brush to apply)

3.) For every day use: Visibly inspect your FrogLube treated gun for dirt and corrosion. Operate the action and check for smoothness of operation. Check for a clear and clean bore. Apply a small amount of FrogLube to closely fitted and load bearing surfaces, such as rails, lugs and roller bearings. Wipe off excess and go shoot.

NOTE: For more demanding conditions, such as salt water, humidity or long-term storage, we recommend a light to moderate coat of FrogLube on parts. Product is applied slightly more generously, and you should still see the metal surface through a gloss or thin film of the material.

SUBSEQUENT CLEANING AND RE-APPLICATION

1) Disassemble main weapon parts and wipe clean with a micro-fiber cloth or bore patches. Use a nylon brush if necessary, and use metal brushes with care.
2) Apply liquid cleaner if necessary, and wipe off until parts are clean and dry.
3) Reapply FrogLube as indicated above.
NOTE: All of FrogLube’s products are bio-based, non-hazardous and environmentally friendly. However, for important health and safety information, please refer to the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for our products, which are located on the Company’s website and found in the “Pressroom” at http://www.froglube.com/pressroom.htm
1 Since FrogLube is 100% food grade, you can safely apply it using your bare hands/fingers.
 
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I use the liquid for my clean and then treat with the paste. Liquid can certainly also be used to lubricate the working parts. Best to combine and use both products. Microfibre cloth is awesome to use to wipe down after a shoot and reapply paste.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: killborn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
SUBSEQUENT CLEANING AND RE-APPLICATION

1) Disassemble main weapon parts and wipe clean with a micro-fiber cloth or bore patches. Use a nylon brush if necessary, and use metal brushes with care.

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Why mention "use metal brushes with care"? Does it mean after using Froglube, I should not be using my good old bronze bore brush for the bore anymore?
 
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I have some and have used it and it does work.
What concerns me is that if you need additional lube in the field for one reason or another then you cannot apply any additional oil-based lube meaning you have to have more of this on hand.
Everyone generally has some oil of some sort if you don;t but not hardly any will have the Frog guts stuff so you will be on your own to supply the lube.
YMMV
 
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I would say that this is just a warning to not over use metal brushes on a barrel and not linked to the Froglube.
Some people use stainless brushes and too much over time can damage the barreling.
I still use my bronze, which is easier on the barrel, but only run it once and then switch to nylon. That is just my personal method and it works for me.
 
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Agreed, however I think with some of the options available it has become quite easy to carry FL with me in the field. I always have a stash of the small 5ml squeeze packs in my kit. The 4 ounce liquid option is also easy to stash in a pouch.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: smschulz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have some and have used it and it does work.
What concerns me is that if you need additional lube in the field for one reason or another then you cannot apply any additional oil-based lube meaning you have to have more of this on hand.
Everyone generally has some oil of some sort if you don;t but not hardly any will have the Frog guts stuff so you will be on your own to supply the lube.
YMMV
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1kOrBust</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: emvampyre</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The next day I put 300 rounds through the weapon. Took it home and damned if it didn't just wipe clean, no cleaner needed. I added a light film of the liquid to the above mentioned areas and put in the safe for 2 weeks. </div></div>

When you reapply after cleaning, do you have to heat up the parts again?

Also, when you wipe it clean, do you have to use any liquid cleaner like MPro7 or just wipe it down with a dry, clean cloth?</div></div>

I have used no liquid cleaner of any kind since using the FL. Yes, I did re-heat the parts using the SoCal sun method. I have used it in the bore and the bore and chamber just wipe clean, no solvent needed.

I have also used it on my H&K P7M8, Sig P226 and 1911 and all those guns work great with it. I have treated my H&K USP .45's slide with it and am confident it will work as well on it.

I used the liquid as a lubricant because, well, it flows easier like any other thicker lube.
 
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I received some of the small sample tubes after getting tons and tons of questions about it. It smells nice, and worked great on a training day in my suppressed M4. It seems to stick around a lot longer than Break Free or Militec1. I don't think I ended the day with any on my face.

I also like the fact that it's non-toxic. I can't tell you how much CLP I have absorbed into my skin over my life.

I didn't do any special prep. I used it just like a grunt would. I slobbed it on and heated it up by pulling the trigger.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: killborn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some people use stainless brushes and too much over time can damage the barreling.</div></div>

Never, ever use a stainless barrel brush on rifling.
 
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I would rather carry a bottle of FL in my range bag than the other petroleum based lube. If the FL spills in my bag, I just added deodorant in my bag!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am just worried about getting it mixed up with my toothpaste! </div></div>

Maybe an application on the teeth would allow us to easily wipe off tartar on them with a piece of rug!! No brushing required! 8)