New Remington 5R .300WM Extraction issue.

[PRKmachinist]

I'm looking for a thread that I saw here a while back with someone who had extraction issues with their new 5R Remington, I have the same exact problem, there's light marring on the cases above the belt like there's some raised burrs in the chamber from a dull chamber reamer or whatever which is causing me to need to pull back HARD on the bolt to extract after firing. Was just looking to see what solution that person used, a flap-wheel? Some emery cloth wrapped around a bore mop on a drill motor?

thanks.

 

[alexander66]

Re: New Remington 5R .300WM Extraction issue.

I had the same problem with my new 300 WM 5R also, my fix was to polish the chamber using a bore brush and the problem was fixed. I hate to say it but I was expecting better from Remington, it will be my last. I will be selling off all of my other Remington’s, I will be keeping my first Remington based custom that I have, so I will be selling all of the other 5 that I have. I got spoiled when I first purchase my TRG 3 ½ years ago, I now have 3 TRG’s. Remington lost me for sure on that 300WM, that I went looking and I found a TRG in 300WM, I should have known better. Sorry for the vent…

alexander

 

[Gray]

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I posted the original thread about the extraction issues. A buddy of mine bought a Rem 700 5R in 300wm and it will not extract anything. Since it was not mine, I told him to send it back to Remington. He was told to send it to a smith that was "local" and it has been nothing but a cluster fuck from there. The smith said it was a problem with the bolt, the details I don't know, but he sent it back to Remington to be replaced. Well, first he sent it to the "wrong place", but now I'm sure its back at Remington where it will probably be until the day AFTER deer season , getting the problem fixed.

 

[Rancid Coolaid]

Re: New Remington 5R .300WM Extraction issue.

I've had several 5Rs and never had this problem. I currently have a 300WM 5R, no issue of the sort.

I am sorry to hear of the issue, but wanted to be sure others don't interpret the thread as "every 5R has extraction issues" or the more general, "Remington sucks."

It is always disappointing to get one of the few problem guns that slip through QC, but it happens with every company that makes a mechanical device. Given enough time, everyone makes a lemon.

 

[PRKmachinist]

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Well, I found out that a friend of mine has a new .300WM chamber reamer so I'm going to just spin it in there by hand lightly and then hit it with a little polishing cloth and see how it does.

 

[5R Milspec]

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Are the cases showing any kind of marks that shouldn't be their?If so then there is your answer,if not well we need to figure it out.It could be that the slide needs polishing.Does the bolt feel tight if so then a case can cause it to be harder to remove.The cutaway on the bolt for the slide could be to small causing it to be tight when a case is pushing on the bolt from the ejector.It sounds simple but many simple things could be the factor.

 

[PRKmachinist]

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I'm almost positive it's the chamber finish that is the issue. The rounds chamber and eject perfectly until they've been fired and the case has expanded, then there are marks on the case where it's scratched the brass when I have to pull them out. The cases don't show any signs of over pressure, just the physical marks from pulling them out.

 

[PRKmachinist]

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Here's a couple pictures of fired cases, didn't have my macro lens available so this is as good as I can do.

 

[FCS]

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What is the diameter of the case where it being scuffed up after firing?

I'd send Remington a picture of that brass, maybe even a few fired cases. Clearly you have a chamber issue.

If Remington doesn't fix the issue, or gives you the run around, then a phone call to Spartan Precision to have barrel set back a couple threads wouldn't be a bad option.

Hope Remington takes care of you.

 

[PRKmachinist]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McCourt Munitions LLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the diameter of the case where it being scuffed up after firing?

I'd send Remington a picture of that brass, maybe even a few fired cases. Clearly you have a chamber issue.

If Remington doesn't fix the issue, or gives you the run around, then a phone call to Spartan Precision to have barrel set back a couple threads wouldn't be a bad option.

Hope Remington takes care of you. </div></div>

I can throw a mic on the cases tomorrow, I did notice that the Hornady rounds had a much more noticeable bump above the belt where they had expanded to fit the chamber vs. the Winchester rounds I fired.

Secondary issue is that I'm not sure how much of a problem having Remington fix the firearm will be, I already got rid of the factory stock & metal, and adjusted the trigger...certainly was not planning on having this issue considering that my five previous Remington rifles including a .308 5R have been perfect.

Couldn't find any contact email for Remington, will have to call them tomorrow - anyone have a good contact there that I should look up?

 

[PRKmachinist]

Re: New Remington 5R .300WM Extraction issue.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McCourt Munitions LLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the diameter of the case where it being scuffed up after firing?
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My new hornady round measures .506 at the base above the belt, and .4883" just below the shoulder.

The fired Winchester case measures .5132"-.5135" at the base, and .4885" below the shoulder.

Edit: Called Remington, they're sending out a call tag and I'll ship the barreled action back for repair, or most likely just replacement.

 

[Pappasniper]

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I have the exact same issue on my 300WM. I have the 308 and .223 5's and no issue.

When I checked my brass to see if it was out of spec before firing, IT WAS OUT OF spec. My reloader tried to put it some aparatus to check size. It was not even close.

Another friend was having the same problem, he said he did a full resize on all his brass and the issue went away. I am going to try this too.

 

[PRKmachinist]

Re: New Remington 5R .300WM Extraction issue.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PappaSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the exact same issue on my 300WM. I have the 308 and .223 5's and no issue.

When I checked my brass to see if it was out of spec before firing, IT WAS OUT OF spec. My reloader tried to put it some aparatus to check size. It was not even close.

Another friend was having the same problem, he said he did a full resize on all his brass and the issue went away. I am going to try this too. </div></div>

I'm using brand new ammunition from two different manufacturers, both of which chamber and extract freely before firing, there's obvious marring on the case which indicates that there are pits or burrs that are grabbing the case, I can see that the edge of the chamber is rough and I didn't even break out the bore scope. I'm very confident that it's a chamber machining issue.

 

[Pappasniper]

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I'm going to have my chambers buffed out. Even if full resizing the the brass fixes the issue for me, I want to ensure complete and utter reliability.

As far as Remington goes, this is still a great rifle. But these nuances and "slips" in QC are what separates a great $1,100 rifle from a great $2,500++ rifle or whatever your number is.

It's a good example of why a custom gun, or high end Surgeon or TRG or GAP is not that crazy expensive. Because you buy your 1,100 rifle, you bed it, you get your Timney, your check rest , how bout a Detach box mag---now you have a little tweak where you want the chamber buffed out. It all adds up pretty quick.

The great thing about building the base gun, is you don't have to have all the money up front and can dabble your way to a very nice rifle.

Just my overall thoughts on my Remmy that I still like. Even though I have to buff out the chamber. Nothing about this game is real cheap, we all just like to be in it.

P

 

[Gray]

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*Update* The smith that originally received the rifle was able to fix the chamber/extraction issue without sending it back to Remington. Since this was all coordinated through my friend, I will have to find out what the problem/fix was for the 5R. There was still something fishy about the whole thing,the smith told us he sent to Remingtob but had the wrong address, now he says its fixed??

 

[PRKmachinist]

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To update on my issue, I sent the rifle back to Remington as a barreled action with trigger assembly, no stock because I have it in a McRee chassis. Two weeks later I get an update that it's being shipped back, the box arrives damaged by UPS, but not actually open - inside the box is a new action and barrel assembly with no bubble wrap, just dropped in a box designed for a complete rifle, no visible damage to the rifle, but there is no trigger assembly included despite the packing slip saying that a new trigger assembly was shipped.

I immediately call Remington and appraise them of the situation, I'm told by my contact "Lisa," that they'll need to contact the factory for approval to ship a new trigger and small parts. The next day I call in and am told that while they got approval to ship me a new trigger, it will need to be transferred through an FFL and it's up to me to arrange this. Now I comment back that no FFL is going to want to do this without charging me something for the hassle, and of course after calling a couple local to me they say they're not interested in helping. Now since this point I have called and talked to three different people at Remington looking to get a liability release that I can sign so they can ship the trigger assembly, or I'll ship them back the barreled action so they can put the parts back on themselves. They never call me back despite promises that they will do so each time.

I've now ended up buying a trigger from another hide member, and have the pins coming in from Midway, just disgusted by this whole situation where I have spent hours on the phone trying to resolve a situation where they first let a defective $1300 rifle out of their plant, and secondly where their repair department did not return all of my parts. I've pretty much given up at this point and will NEVER buy another Remington product.

/rant off.

 

[03cobra]

I know this is an old thread but I have the same rifle that is doing the exact same thing an even show marks that match the pictures posted of the mark on the case in this thread down near the belt. Does anyone know what the final out come was what was the fix for this issue?