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5R is here, SEND BACK OR NOT???

groundhogbuster

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I just got my 5R yesterday from snipercountrypx, and Scott gave me some great info. When I got the gun I noticed some paint missing at the tang area, and the barrel not aligned in the stock perfectly, it was still floated, but my other 2 Rems are perfectly aligned. When I loosed the front action screw, a tad, the barrel will shift back center, and when I begin to tighten, it just pulls back to the left. Another thing is the bolt face has a small rough spot on it, and when I look down the barrel, I can see a rough spot on the brrl face. I have contacted him, and I don't plan on shooting it, but rather send it back for another. Anyone had this trouble before? I'll try to post pics in a second. Any help very appreciated. And does SNPX have good customer service?
 
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Shoot it. And put a better stock under it when you get a chance.
 
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Shoot it and see how it shoots. If it hammers, don't worry about it. If you actually use your rifle, it's gonna get beat up anyway. It is after all, a mass produced rifle, there are bound to be some blemishes.
 
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I have the stuff to bed it. But when you spend that kinds $ you wanna 100% rifle. My other 2 were much less expensive, and they have no blemishes, and dont torque around in the stock (which I like, and planned on shooting some comps soon. Does the rough place on the bolt or brrl, hurt anything? Would bed now but so many opinions, I don't even know where to start
 
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And if it doesn't shoot, then SNPX won't exchange it? and I don't have alot of $ to play with
 
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Shoot it. I dont see anything there that is going to cause any issues.

Its a tool, not jewelry.
 
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I'm too much a perfectionist I guess, coming from BR, my "tools" looked like Ferrari's
 
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From your description it would benefit from a bedding job, whether you DIY or have it done professionally. But to answer your question, it’s up to you as it is your rifle and I have no clue as to SNPX customer service.
 
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I'd like to think I could bed it, been an AR and Glock Armorer for a long time, but is the stock causing it to bind, or the action??
 
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Congratulations on the new rifle,shoot it and see how it does. Its a factory rifle, not a custom. $1000 may seem like alot, but if you want perfect fit and finish, you'll be lookin at custom rifles costing 3x more. The only factory guns that are usually free of blemishes are tikka t3.

If it still bothers you, take it to a reputable gunsmith and have the chamber re-cut, the action trued, and skim bed the stock in the recoil lug area.
 
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I do have a custom 6BR , HART brrl, MCM A2, 8.5-25, and I have around 2k in, and we just shoot thumbtacks at 100 and 200. If I skim bedded would it take that play out?
 
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More than likely it is the bedding block that is slightly out of alignment with in the stock rather than the action or recoil lug. But either way stress free bedding should fit that. The Gunsmithing section has some very good DIY instructions on bedding, FWIW I do my own and it’s not that difficult just time consuming to do it right.
 
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As long as no one thinks the bolt and the brrl marks would hurt accuracy, I may try it
 
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I don’t see why it would, unpleasing to the eye, yes but it is not an area that should have direct contact with the cartridge. If you have an empty shell or a fired shell load it and see if you feel any dragging when you turn the bolt handle down. I can’t tell from the pic how high that burr is on the bolt, just want to make sure it’s not rubbing on the barrel and causing a slight bind or responsible for the rough spot on the chamber pic.
 
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Chambered several rds through it and and very smooth, no mks to see. I'd really like to see a step by step method of bedding an action on here, esp since the 700 and HSP stocks are plentiful. I do very much appreciate your input NCoyote, that's why this is such a good forum. I can slip 3 dollar bills under the brrl all the way to the action, so I know Rem will say, so what if it's off center a mm it's still FF. 1 more question, does the very back of the brrl having a mark on it have effects on accuracy? I'm sure all HSP, BC stocks can benefit from bedding, but getting it to a "quality" Smith and back, in time for season for a bedding job is outta question. Ncoyote? Would you keep the gun and fire away? Maybe touch up the paint.
Another way to have a tack driver is... I sent a 308 sendaro to Clay Spencer years ago, chambered it in straight 6mm, used HSP stock, tuned trigger, BP action, HART 1/12 twist (heavier than factory) can't remember the contour, and it shot like a house on fire, and only cost $1000, with a brake. Man I miss that gun
 
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Here is a picture of the barrel of my issued M24 sitting in the HSP stock. It doesn't seem to have an effect on the accuracy. The rifle is a tack driver. So long as the barrel is free floated you shouldn't have any issues. As has been mentioned if it bothers you can fix it by skim bedding the action. Everything you pictured seems like minor cosmetic issues that one would expect with a factory build rifle. It should be a good shooter and really that is what counts. I don't think anyone else will notice any of the things you pointed out unless you show them.

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Glad you chimed in Driftwood. TY very much. I guess shoot it till the barrels gone, and Pray for a good tax season. Thnx
 
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Picky picky picky, shoot the damn thing first the bitch about if it doesn't shoot.
 
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SNPX i assume snipercountrypx? If so I'm sure Scott would let you exchange for another if your not satisfied with that one.
 
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The alignment problem with the barrel may be from one of the trigger pins sticking out too far to one side and contacting the block. Do you see a small mark/indention in the block on one side of either of the pins?
 
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You're being way too picky man. None of those "issues" are real issues and won effect a thing. If you don't like the gap the bed it or sand outrhe barrel channel a little.

If it doesn't shoot remington will take care of the problem, they have very good customer service.

Slap your scope on and enjoy it, I'm sure it will shoot fine.
 
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Yes it's Scott at sniper country px. I will check the trigger pins before I go to bed and post info tomorrow. Thanks alot guys.

I know, go shoot it shoot it. It's very easy for me to say that to someone elses gun, but if paint was missing on a Brand New in Box gun??? And that's just one tiny detail. I deer hunt off a bench at 400 yds from a bait pile with a rifle, and the rest of the time my guns are on bags, my tools however, if they break, it's a trip to sears, and a brand new ratchet in my hands in 5 mins.The only guns I have that are marked or scratched, are the ones passed down by my Dad, or my C&R guns, That's why when I sale a gun here, and they know mw, they don't even have to look at it, because they know it doesn't have a scratch on it.
I have a 93 Mustang Coupe, tube frame, with over $30,000 inv. and it runs 9.89 in qtr mile. If its scratched.... It gets painted, ASAP. Just who I am. Thanks again
 
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I've had plenty of rifles that weren't flawless out of the box and I've never lost any sleep. You're talking about a $1000 factory rifle, not a custom or high end rifle. You can find flaws on pretty much any new factory rifle out there.

The minor flaws you are so worried over aren't going to cause your rifle to "break". They are minor flaws that can't and won't effect function in any way shape or form. I mean do you seriously think the rifle is going to break or miss a deer at 400 yards because of a couple imperfections in the stock or a spot in the finish on the bolt face?

Do you keep your rifles in a glass case or something? Do you transport them to this bench you speak of in a silk lined case and handle them with velvet gloves? I say either get over it and shoot it or buy a gold plated desert eagle.

If you want perfection you're going to pay for it and it's going to cost wayyyyy more than a nice R700.
 
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Sorry, for $1k I fully expect it to be perfect.

My 5R 20" had the two front sling studs way off center. I expected better from H-s precision for what they charge. I called remington and they replaced it free. I work hard to save for my toys, I expect better or to at least be willing to make it right. I am also unlucky as hell, ordered a brand new zeiss diavari that had to be sent back due to spots on the inside of the glass.
 
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Tipical Remington quality control, it's hit or miss.
 
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Actually No, I carry my Rifles to shoots in a Pelican Case, and they don't touch anything but Bench, or sometimes shooting mat. Don't bring the site down like other sites by saying it's "wrong" to not want a new rifle in "new" condition, I mean cmon. Even a brand new factory Kia car is paint flawless. You treat your guns the way you wanna, and I'll do the same, just don't flame someone over it. Why did my Eotech bring top $? Not because I slammed it over trees, and dropped my gun all the time. Because it looked like it came out of the box. Same goes when I sold my 15yo 220 swift 40X. yea it had 1200rds down the tube, but it looked as good or better than when I bought it, and still shot .5's, not the .3's it did when new, but better than most new guns.I don't see beat up guns at egg shoots, and BR shoots, why? Because people take care of them. Don't have a gold DE, but do have a Colt Mustang, and Walther PPK 15yo that's still in the box. Yea I have my beater guns, but they didn't come that way. When you order NEW... I expect new, not Custom, just new. They do sale blems for cheaper for much less than perfect guns, Noveske has "Chainsaw" BCM has blems, as do many other Co's. If it's "just" $1000, may I have $1000?
When I worked for NCSHP, I worked my weapons, and now for DOD, I also work them. Not a safe queen, but I darn sure don't plan on layin it on rocks, or taping it like an AK47. It's a precision tool. Micrometer?
Thanks for the replies guys, and yea we should expect what we pay for...A new gun. All my Mosins shoot good, but I knew what I was expecting. Not too much to ask for. My local FFL (Prices Creek Store) sales more guns than most in NC, and is rated one of the most inventoried shops in town, but he doesnt advertise, and I'm glad he doesn't, If he could have gotten a 5R it would have been $890. Too bad for me I guess.Not being an ass, just saying I want what I pay for, my SPS lined up, and no marks on bolt or brrl, and for $595??? What gives?
 
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Scott Powers is good people and will take care of you if you ask!

If it were me I'd bed it as the HS stock is decent to begin with. Either have it done or do it your self, square things up, take your time and enjoy the rifle. The factory Remington barrels I've had always come with crap in them and the bolt faces covered in brass from test firing.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Actually No, I carry my Rifles to shoots in a Pelican Case, and they don't touch anything but Bench, or sometimes shooting mat. Don't bring the site down like other sites by saying it's "wrong" to not want a new rifle in "new" condition, I mean cmon. Even a brand new factory Kia car is paint flawless. You treat your guns the way you wanna, and I'll do the same, just don't flame someone over it. Why did my Eotech bring top $? Not because I slammed it over trees, and dropped my gun all the time. Because it looked like it came out of the box. Same goes when I sold my 15yo 220 swift 40X. yea it had 1200rds down the tube, but it looked as good or better than when I bought it, and still shot .5's, not the .3's it did when new, but better than most new guns.I don't see beat up guns at egg shoots, and BR shoots, why? Because people take care of them. Don't have a gold DE, but do have a Colt Mustang, and Walther PPK 15yo that's still in the box. Yea I have my beater guns, but they didn't come that way. When you order NEW... I expect new, not Custom, just new. They do sale blems for cheaper for much less than perfect guns, Noveske has "Chainsaw" BCM has blems, as do many other Co's. If it's "just" $1000, may I have $1000?
When I worked for NCSHP, I worked my weapons, and now for DOD, I also work them. Not a safe queen, but I darn sure don't plan on layin it on rocks, or taping it like an AK47. It's a precision tool. Micrometer?
Thanks for the replies guys, and yea we should expect what we pay for...A new gun. All my Mosins shoot good, but I knew what I was expecting. Not too much to ask for. My local FFL (Prices Creek Store) sales more guns than most in NC, and is rated one of the most inventoried shops in town, but he doesnt advertise, and I'm glad he doesn't, If he could have gotten a 5R it would have been $890. Too bad for me I guess.Not being an ass, just saying I want what I pay for, my SPS lined up, and no marks on bolt or brrl, and for $595??? What gives? </div></div>

My head hurts after trying to read that.

As for me, my guns get treated like any other tool. Taken care of, maintained, but not coddled. If it shoots, its a keeper, if not, it gets fixed or liquidated. Scratches, dents, dings, and chips are par for the course...and a week riding in my pickup or patrol car will cause far more damage that what is seen on this gun.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> When I worked for NCSHP, </div></div>

That explains the anal retentive ness!!! Let us know whether you trade it in or shoot it.

On the scratches, nothing a new can of krylon camo paint won't fix.
 
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I can cut the OP some slack on wanting his rifle to be perfect, but really there isn't anything really wrong with his rifle. I never understand the whole "its a tool" and somehow because I treat my rifle carelessly or don't mind when it gets marred up, that it makes me a more serious shooter than someone that is anal about keeping his rifle nice. I "use" my rifles too. I get paid to use them, but I still get a bit upset when something happens to them. I fix what I can, and live with what I can't fix.

My current M24 was used when it was issued to me. It had a huge chunk that had been knocked out of the front of the stock. I showed it to the armorer when I opened the case as I was a bit concerned he would think I did it. He said oh yeah its been like that for a long time. It drove me nuts so I "procurred" some epoxy and did my best to fix it. I can still see it but no one else would notice. My weapons are used and bear the marks of it, but they also look like they have been maintained. I have been known to take a sharpie to my M4 to try to knock the wear marks off. I am really not that anal, but I do care about and take care of my equipment. My sniping system "is not your daddy's shotgun".

Few things piss me off more than to come home after being overseas for a few months, to find that one of my boys has taken out a rifle that I had since I was 14, and treated it like it was a shovel. It usually is the last time they are allowed to use my rifle. I know for a fact I shot them more and hunted with them more, somehow I managed to use them for 30 years and get less wear on them than they have done in 2 years. I suppose they mean more to me than they do the boys.

I treat my rifle as though my life and those of others depend on it, because they do. Sure there are wear marks from use, but really I never get the I abuse my rifle so I am a more serious rifleman argument. I am issued a "crappy" Leupold scope as are all those who work with me...I have yet to see one "Fail" after over 20 years of actually working with them. The "crappy" HS stocks seem to do fine, in spite of a chip here or there. I don't work with anyone that just treats his rifle like it were a shovel, probably because their lives actually depend on it, certainly their paychecks. I am ranting about a non issue so I will stop.

The OP's rifle looks like any factory rifle. I am sure it will shoot great. Paint can be fixed, I didn't even know they were painted, I thought it was just beadblasted Stainless Steel. I would paint it anyway as while I love the 5R, I don't like the silver finish, but that is just my personal opinion. The barrel sitting in the channel is just a by product of the HSP bedding block system. I have seen worse and better, but so long as the barrel is free floated, it shouldn't be an issue. It is easily remedied if it bothers the OP too much. The action will just get smoother with use.

My favorite off the shelf rifle is a Remington 700 5R. I like them because they have a reputation for being out of the box shooters. I have heard nothing but good things about "Sniper Country PX" and I am sure they will take care of you if you are not happy with your rifle. If it were me, I would paint the rifle and do my best to wear out the barrel. I am interested to see how it shoots.
 
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If you're not happy with it, it's your right to exchange it for something you're happy with.
 
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Review this thread just be advised some of the pictures appear to have been replaced LOL but the text is still there. It’s what got me started, think I have about 12 or so under my belt now, Remington and Winchester.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1167022#Post1167022

I have a few pics on my post here, just not as in depth as above.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...235#Post3384235

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I can slip 3 dollar bills under the brrl all the way to the action, so I know Rem will say, so what if it's off center a mm it's still FF. </div></div>

What makes me believe it will benefit from bedding is this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> When I loosed the front action screw, a tad, the barrel will shift back center, and when I begin to tighten, it just pulls back to the left. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 1 more question, does the very back of the brrl having a mark on it have effects on accuracy? </div></div>

I don’t believe it will or the burr on the bolt, provided the one was not caused by the other. From the sounds of it, your cycling test proved it is not. You would have felt the two binding if it were the cause of marks like that.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Ncoyote? Would you keep the gun and fire away? Maybe touch up the paint.</div></div>

More than likely those imperfections would have been missed by me, to be discovered later; discovering them first would not inspire much confidence... That said, I’d contact SNPX just to advise them of the discovered issues to see what they want you to do. Something like, I like the gun but this is what I am seeing (describing the issues in your above posts), I am ok with that provided it doesn’t have issues at the range. Tell me how to proceed.
 
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i understand exactly. when i buy something new, i expect to be the first one to ding it up. honestly the only thing on yours that would bother me are the rough spots on the bolt face and the chamber. my 700p has a touch more space on one side of the barrel channel than the other. so does my cz455v. but both shoot great, so it doesn't bother me. the paint near on the stock woulnd't bother me either. as i said, when i buy a new firearm, i like it to be as near perfect as possible, and stuff that bothers me only continues to bother me if i let it go. so, make the call. pointing out as much as you did, wou'll probably be happier sending it back.
 
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Groundhogbuster,

How you care for your gear should satisfy you, no one else. From reading this entire thread it seems that you won't be happy until you get a replacement w/o the flaws. Send it back and go buy one you can inspect first.

OFG
 
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When I first got my 5-R several years ago I noticed a few "flaws" too. The paint chips are just what happens when an action is installed or removed from a molded stock If they annoy you, some blackening with a sharpie will blend them in. You'll get more as the years pass.

The mark on the end of the barrel won't hurt the accuracy at all. After a few rounds it will most likely blend into the rest of the metal through the natural lapping that will occur.

The stock is a mass produced, molded stock. When molded around the action block it's possible that some plastic extends over the top of the block or is higher than the extended plane of the block so it keeps the barrel/action from centering properly.

Take some spotting compound (even lipstick works), smear a thin coat on the action and barrel where it comes in close proximity to the stock, insert the action in the stock and clamp with hand pressure, making sure that the tang is in full contact with the stock.

Check the stock for contact points and on the action block look for full contact. There's a good chance that when you scrape down the high spots on the stock the action block will show full contact and the barrel will center better.

If there is full contact on the block with no torque on the screws, and the barrel is still crooked in the channel, it's merely a cosmetic issue. On my stock I had to relieve the channel anyway as the forend was just a little too flexible and contacted the barrel under recoil bounce. While doing that I also straightened the channel for even "reveal".

Also check bottom metal for areas where plastic is not allowing it to seat properly. Look carefully at inside of bottom metal for signs of contact with trigger assy, both trigger itself and the rivets at the bottom of the mechanism.


Mine still shoots like a dream although all the BR shooters at my club think the barrel's "all shot out" based on round count. I kind of lost count when it passed 3k. I think I'll just keep shooting it until a bullet will rattle down the bore when I drop it in the muzzle
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Lol, like that last comment. To answer one of the earlier posts, No the trigger pins are not touching anything, and everything looks ok. I will try the lipstick thing and see. I am glad to see more folk like me "care" for, and what their weapon looks like. When I put it back in the stock, should it be slid back toward the butt, or, forward?
And BTW if I shoot it, I will then be dealing with Remington, and Scott seems like a super guy. I emailed him the pics, and he I will be contacting him tomorrow. Only thing that would suck, is that even if he pays for shipping back, I still have to pay an extra $15 transfer fee, and the more I buy guns the more I hate filling out papers for NICS, it sucks, and with my job, having to have a Security Pass, I get held up 3 days, even with my FFLCR in my pocket,lol. Our laws are so ridiculous! Thank you guys so much, I will do the lipstick trick (if I can sneak from wife) and report back. You guys are super helpful.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> When I put it back in the stock, should it be slid back toward the butt, or, forward? </div></div>


Opps, miss read the question. Slid it to the rear, snug the actions screws (action still relatively loose) stand it on the butt and holding the stock you can bump it on the ground or whatever the butt is resting and tighten to a torque of 40-50 inch pounds.
 
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When you put the action screws in. Leave them hand tight, then bang the butt of the stock on the ground a couple of times. Then torque them down.
 
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I'm not familiar with the bedding block on that stock, but when I read the first post I did have some concern.

Nothing about the reveal of the barrel channel being different on each side, cosmetic as was said, and likely just the aluminum block itself being set slightly out of parallel to the barrel channel.

But, it does seem odd to me, that when the action screw is torqued that it changes the alignment of the action- almost like something is binding.

But hell, like everyone says, I'd just shoot it...and then worry about it if a problem becomes evident.
 
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LIP STICK TEST! Anyone have comments on this, should it be touching where it is?
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Also do you think what was said earlier is true, Recoil lug being off? I put it in a BC and it didnt torque, and sit pretty in the middle.
 
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GtG, to Johnson City TN, LMK what you guys think I'll be back. (Or use my cell phone,lol)
Yes NCSHP are anal. But 7 months of Basic Training, gave me a new respect for those guys, and my good friend got Shot a cpl years back. Now I know why they run us so long every morning. Because in Hickory, everyone you Pull, runs away, even from a Warning Ticket, lol. Thanks for your help guys Your all great.
 
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Looks like a good place to install a McRee stock. No need for bedding, easy installation and removal. All the adjustments necessary for a custom fit. They work good, look good, the downside they catch a lot of attention.
 
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You do what you want. But if it was mine it would be going back. Yeah it will more than likely shoot fine. But It's not what you expected when you ordered it, whether it's $1000 dollars or $4000 dollars. It's your hard earned money, get what you payed for!

Edit: I've seen some of the picky people on here, not everyone is but. Ask yourself this...You don't have the post count yet, but if you did and went to try and sell that stock to buy a better one I promise you you'd have guy's sending you PM's low balling because of the cosmetic blemishes. And yet you ordered a brand new 5R, just sayin.. they expect perfection and so should you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: groundhogbuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also do you think what was said earlier is true, Recoil lug being off? I put it in a BC and it didnt torque, and sit pretty in the middle. </div></div>

I would put money on the HS stock having a probelm before your Remington lug.
 
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