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6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

libertyman777

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I have a friend that is putting one together for me. I sent him a 5R takeoff stock, a M700 action and X-mark trigger. He had a Bartlein 6.5 takeoff with less than 200 rounds down the tube (I can't remember what caliber but seems like it was a long action caliber) that he rechambered in 6.5 CM. I believe he told me it finished out at 21" to 22". I'll be giving up a few fps but for my purposes, it won't matter.

He recommended that we go with 6.5 CM because of brass availability, ease of forming brass and it's accurate to boot.

This is an exotic caliber to me. I've only owned .308 and .223 rifles to date.

My primary purpose will be recreational range shooting and stand hunting. I would also like to get some additional training in the future. Also, there is a new range being built down here near Talladega that will have 1000 yard opportunities. An F-class match would be fun.

I picked up a 6.5-20x50 Vortex Viper Mildot really reasonable.

I'd like to hear from folks that do different things with this caliber.

What projectiles/weights/loads you like for the job at hand? So far, I've accumulated 100 pieces of Hornady brass, a couple of boxes of 140 grain A-max and a set or Hornady Dies. I've never tried Hornady dies but the price was right.

Anyone have a barrel length similar to what I'll be receiving?

My buddy is doing this as a favor in his spare time, so it will soon be a year. I'm hoping for the rifle before deer season but beggars can't be choosers as they say around here.

Thanks for the input.

Paul
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I wouldn't want to ever be without one! My short ones are 23" and the long ones 26". The rifles I have all shoot the factory 140gr A -Max .25MOA and do even better with 130gr VLD's loaded by McCourt Munitions.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I cried yesterday when I found out I'm going to have to sell mine, if that helps you understand.

+1 for McCourt loaded 130's. My 21" Rock is pushing Andrews loads close to 2900fps
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I'm liking mine. Haven't had time to take it past 200 yet, but I'm not worried. Shot several five shot groups at 200 that had four under a half inch with a fifth normally opening things up to just around and inch. I might play with the seating depth a little. I'm going to shoot it at 600 before I try anything else.

I'm running 130grain target vld's with H4350 and cci primers.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cried yesterday when I found out I'm going to have to sell mine, if that helps you understand.

+1 for McCourt loaded 130's. My 21" Rock is pushing Andrews loads close to 2900fps
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I feel your pain. I wouldn't have a rifle if it wasn't for my buddy. I hope you're able to keep something to shoot.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I LOVE my 6.5 cm!!!! DTA with a SAC barrel.

It is the best/most accurate gun I've EVER owned.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cried yesterday when I found out I'm going to have to sell mine, if that helps you understand.

+1 for McCourt loaded 130's. My 21" Rock is pushing Andrews loads close to 2900fps
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Dude, that sucks so bad. That rifle of yours is sweet and if I had the extra cash I'd buy it from you and let you get it back later.

I too love my 6.5CM. Here's a vid I took at PTS this weekend. The flapper target is 6 inches and the distance is 605 yards. You'll have to turn the volume up some if you want to hear it all, some reason the volume came out low when I put the vid together. I also made a hit at 1095 (or was it 1098?) yards this weekend as well.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I love mine. I've taken to a mile and it was interesting. Mine has a 28" bull barrel so its a heavy SOB but there isn't much recoil and its more accurate than I am. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

140 amax is a great bullet. A mile is a little much but it goes to 1200 quite a bit and gets there without hardly any issues. Only limiting factors seem to be my scope and myself.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: triceratops3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love mine. I've taken to a mile and it was interesting. Mine has a 28" bull barrel so its a heavy SOB but there isn't much recoil and its more accurate than I am. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

140 amax is a great bullet. A mile is a little much but it goes to 1200 quite a bit and gets there without hardly any issues. Only limiting factors seem to be my scope and myself. </div></div>
I've seen this youngster and said rifle. It's a hammer. He got it together days before a match, and he was leading that match at the end of the VERY, VERY windy first day.

Even at 21 or 22", it'll work right nice. I'm a long barrel kind of fellow, but my 21.5" 260 leaves little to be desired, hitting 2800fps with a 140.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Loved mine! It was boringly accurate. Sold it to my dad and bought a 6mm Creedmoor.

I highly recommend the 6.5 Creedmoor and will probably own one again.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I cried yesterday when I found out I'm going to have to sell mine, if that helps you understand.

+1 for McCourt loaded 130's. My 21" Rock is pushing Andrews loads close to 2900fps
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Pusher...things will work out for you and your wife. God will bless you, just fasten your seat-belt and hang on. You'll have a newer and nicer stick before you know it!

Take care.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I love mine... here's a 3" shoot'n c shot at 300m.

10 rounds of Andrew's 130vld reciepe.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Thanks for the support guys. It will work out, that rifle has a special place in my heart though. I love the Creedmoor round, it makes you look like a superstar!
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

You're going to love that rifle. I picked up a Savage LRP in 260 Remington, and it drives tacks with factory ammo. The 6.5CM is really similar. I've seen guys make amazing shots with both rounds. Mine has a 1:8 twist so it spins the heavier bullets really well. Lapua makes the best brass so far for mine, which i plan to start reloading this winter. As far as factory ammo goes, the 260 has allot more selection from different manufactures at Midway, but I've heard the ammo and brass from Hornady for the 6.5CM is great stuff. Make sure ya post some pics of it and show us some groups! Congrats on the new gun man.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

By the way, Onemoretime, that a beautiful rifle. And it shoots as good as it looks. Most guys would be happy with that group at 100yards... 300 meters though, thats damn fine shooting man...
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I debated for some time before I decided on the 6.5 Creedmoor.

While it may be a peer in performance to the 6.5x47 and .260 Remington, factory support made it so much easier to end up with the Creedmoor.

Hornady got this one correct from the start. A smart case design, fantastic and inexpensive ammo, AND reloading dies that don't cost a small fortune.

The fact that the spec Hornady reamer/brass/resizing die play together is nice for the reloader, as well as, having the reloading recipe written on the box help get people shooting instead of developing loads.

It seems like an even better idea now with all the 6.5x47 shooters scrounging for brass. Seems ironic because many early detractors of the Creedmoor sited "single sourcing" as such a negative.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I debated for some time before I decided on the 6.5 Creedmoor.

While it may be a peer in performance to the 6.5x47 and .260 Remington, factory support made it so much easier to end up with the Creedmoor.

Hornady got this one correct from the start. A smart case design, fantastic and inexpensive ammo, AND reloading dies that don't cost a small fortune.

The fact that the spec Hornady reamer/brass/resizing die play together is nice for the reloader, as well as, having the reloading recipe written on the box help get people shooting instead of developing loads.

It seems like an even better idea now with all the 6.5x47 shooters scrounging for brass. Seems ironic because many early detractors of the Creedmoor sited "single sourcing" as such a negative. </div></div>

I had a choice too when the project started. The cost of 6.5x47 brass really put me off as I was already in a financial bind. Now I'm really glad I went with the Creedmoor, for all the reasons you stated.


Guys, thanks for all the input thus far. I'm really getting excited about the rifle and caliber choice.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

You'll love it. My Savage 12 LRP is a tack driver with the very first handload I worked out for it. SMK 142's outperform the factory projectiles in my particular rifle by a significant margin, all other factors being equal.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Upstate Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By the way, Onemoretime, that a beautiful rifle. And it shoots as good as it looks. Most guys would be happy with that group at 100yards... 300 meters though, thats damn fine shooting man... </div></div>

Thanks! Randy at RD Precision built the rifle. I was doing the load testing that day with ammo that Andrew at McCourt had sent me. 50 rounds of 140vld and 50 of the 130's.

I shot all 10 rounds of each load at 300 at 3" shoot'n C's. That was the group of the day. 7 rounds in a nice little cluster and 3 screw ups on my part.... I hadn't shot in nearly a year because of my new business.

I wonder if I had 6" targets if they would have been even better.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Dude, how to you get the gun to perfectly balance on the bipod like that???

LOL
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hellbender</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Dude, how to you get the gun to perfectly balance on the bipod like that???

LOL </div></div>

That's to funny, I just saw that.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hellbender</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Onemoretime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Dude, how to you get the gun to perfectly balance on the bipod like that???

LOL </div></div>

David Blaine taught me....
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PSYOPS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I LOVE my 6.5 cm!!!! DTA with a SAC barrel.

It is the best/most accurate gun I've EVER owned.

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+1 My DTA/SAC 6.5 Shoots outstanding out to 1K so far the Berger 140 VLD Hunting/Match are outstanding too
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

So i have a .243 right now with a 6.5 Bartlein blank on the way and have been going back and forth for some time now between the 6.5x47, 6.5CM, and .260rem. I have finally decided on the Creedmore because first its awesome but also because of the match ammo readily available and I can get get brass and ammo locally which for me is a plus cause I hand load but am sometimes too busy to crank out the amount I need and local buys really help out. That being said someone school me a little on the actual physical difference between the Creedmore case and the .308 family cases? Or point me in the right direction cause I have read till I am blue in the fa the ballistic comparisons and the differences in "opinions" of most but not the actual physical differences.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Have you guys been having problems with factory 140 Hornady ammo? I have seen on separate occasions factory ammo shoot very hot with blown primers and obvious ejector marks and some shoots like its no pressure.

Mark
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

You're very welcome. I've studied these a bit myself (just acquired a 6.5 Creedmoor that I'll be taking to the range for the first time Sat.) The main features & differences I see are:

1) the base is the same
2) the 308 is tapered a bit more than the CR
(diameter @ neck taper 0.454 (308) vs. 0.462 (CR))
3) the CR is a bit shorter than the 308
(1.92 -0.020 (CR) vs. 2.015 -0.020 (308))
4) the neck angle is bigger on the CR - to fit down to the 6.5 bullet
(30deg (CR) vs. 20deg (308))
5) the COAL ranges are a bit different

All this results is a slightly lower case volume for CR. I'd be interested in your thoughts/observations as well.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M.Gordon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you guys been having problems with factory 140 Hornady ammo? I have seen on separate occasions factory ammo shoot very hot with blown primers and obvious ejector marks and some shoots like its no pressure.

Mark
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my first batch of 140amax factory was right on the edge of pressure. shot like a barn on fire around 2850 with very faint ejector marks. no heavy bolt lift or anything else. i pulled some from that batch and they were 42.6-42.7gr. i said screw it and my go to load is 42.9 of 4350 running 2860 and it hammers in the .2's all the time. really nor pressure signs at all. im starting to think there was some issues with some brass out there and i have heard from others with similar issues. i have some brass that even with a mild charge was stiff to extract and shit. wondering if was thicker or stiffer causing some pressure issues.

dont know.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M.Gordon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you guys been having problems with factory 140 Hornady ammo? I have seen on separate occasions factory ammo shoot very hot with blown primers and obvious ejector marks and some shoots like its no pressure.

Mark
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Mark,

I also ran into a box that seemed to be a little hot. No blown primers but very clear ejector marks
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RWSGunsmithing</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M.Gordon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you guys been having problems with factory 140 Hornady ammo? I have seen on separate occasions factory ammo shoot very hot with blown primers and obvious ejector marks and some shoots like its no pressure.

Mark
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Mark,

I also ran into a box that seemed to be a little hot. No blown primers but very clear ejector marks </div></div>



Willing to share lot #'s?
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M.Gordon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you guys been having problems with factory 140 Hornady ammo? I have seen on separate occasions factory ammo shoot very hot with blown primers and obvious ejector marks and some shoots like its no pressure.

Mark
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Funny you should ask, I was shooting Monday with a new lot of factory 140's and collected some interesting data.

Previous lot was chronographed at 2640 fps from my barrel (21.25in from lug, 8.4 twist Obermeyer).

I haven't run the new stuff over the chrono, but my reverse calculated MV from my observed 1000yd come up was 2790 fps! Primers not flattened, nice and rounded... never checked all the cases but didn't seem to have any issues.

Needless to say, I was scratching my head a bit until I reconfigured Shooter with the approximated MV.

The weird thing is that when I got the MV to match my 1000yd actual observed comeup of 8.4mil, all shorter distances did not fit the new predicted G7 (Litz) curve. This may be due to of course not zeroing the new lot at 100yds, but something is still fishy.

A predicted 150fps bump seems too good to be true. All things considered seemed to shoot o.k.



I will post my slow and fast lot#'s tommorow A.M.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

I picked up my barreled action the 1st week of June. With no experience or knowledge of the 6.5CM round. I made the decision to have one built based on the recommendation of a forum member. The only down side was the wait on having the barrel fitted.

From 1st day at range it was great. I followed Kriegers break in instructions to the letter. The accuracy rocks, even in the wind with the high BC bullets are part of what make the 6.5CM package so accurate. The other positive of this caliber is the lack of recoil. That too helps with the overall accuracy, since shooters aren't dealing with heavy recoil they are less likely to flinch and throw the bullet off target. Those that I have let shoot my rifle, always have positive comments when they are finished.

To get the best of the caliber, one needs to reload. Commercially its Hornady property rights but all the big name bullet manufactures are producing premium bullets for target and hunting. My target load is 130gr bullet traveling at an 2964fps average, shooting steel in my area there is a 3000fps limit, not quite sure I could do better.

Rifle manufactures will start producing more factory rifles in the caliber.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Well, I have custom Savage with 30" 5R straight contoured barrel and my shooting buddy's custom 700 with 24" Rock Creek barrel rings 2'x2' steel at 1 mile with no problem...
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

If you are loading this is the only way to go for long range

140 Amax
41.5gr H4350
You will have to find your seating depth.

If you aren't loading then go pick up Hornaday 140 AMAX and try it. The load data on the back of the box is what I gave you above. Hornady got right and their isn't much you can do to the load itself to make it better.

I shoot a Savage Model 12 LRP. I neck size my brass which has tightened my groups up. I have also turned the necks and done some other little things to all the brass. To be honest I'm not see much difference than before, but a friend loaned me everything to to turn the necks so I used it
 
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9sigman45,

Here you go on the lot#'s.

The slower, 3120878

The one that shot much faster, 3121750

Hope it helps. This subject probably deserves its own thread so we don't hijack the OP's.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: holdoff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">9sigman45,

Here you go on the lot#'s.

The slower, 3120878

The one that shot much faster, 3121750

Hope it helps. This subject probably deserves its own thread so we don't hijack the OP's. </div></div>

I think you are ok. OP was wanting to know about the 6.5 Creed and ammo selection is apart of that. I think it's very beneficial to this thread.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Tag for lot numbers. Waiting patiently on my cm build.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Surffshr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tag for lot numbers. Waiting patiently on my cm build. </div></div>

Check out the post above my last, he listed the lot numbers.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Any readers shooting semi auto 6.5 Creedmoors? Accuracy compared to bolt guns? Compared to 6.5 Grendel?
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

Are all you guys using the SAAMI chamber with .200" freebore?
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Edds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are all you guys using the SAAMI chamber with .200" freebore? </div></div>

I think most are. My smith cut mine just a hair tighter and you can tell. My velocities seem to be higher then most when comparing charges and barel lengths. I also see pressure a little more early then most as well it shoots laser accurate.

I consider myself to be a fairly good shooter but definitely not a pro competitor. The first time shot mine I fired 5 rounds and grouped well. Next I went up in charge and fired another 5 round group. From mysvope I could see I only had two holes in the 3" pasty I was shooting at, I started to get nervous and ran down to my target. I put 3 in almost the same hole and the last two in the same hole
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I love this gun and round.
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Edds said:
My smith cut mine just a hair tighter and you can tell. </div></div>

How thick is that hair?
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Edds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Edds said:
My smith cut mine just a hair tighter and you can tell. </div></div>

How thick is that hair? </div></div>

My buddy that's building my rifle said that the chamber came out "beautifully". Can't qualify that other than I know he has done many and really likes what he saw when he cut that chamber. I can't wait to shoot this rifle.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Edds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Edds said:
My smith cut mine just a hair tighter and you can tell. </div></div>

How thick is that hair? </div></div>

I don't know exactly, but it has ran fine with Winchester and Hornady brass through it. I don't know how it would do with Lapua brass but I don't reload so I wouldn't be using Lapua anyway.

My smith used a SAMMI reamer from PTG but he stated he finished on the tighter side. What that means in dimensions I don't know, but I haven't had any issues with it at all. He finished very nice too, the chamber and throat area are beautiful.
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't know how it would do with Lapua brass but I don't reload so I wouldn't be using Lapua anyway. </div></div>

I didn't know Lapua made 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Is this something new that isn't listed on their website?
 
Re: 6.5 Creedmoor, how are you guys liking yours?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Edds</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pusher591</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't know how it would do with Lapua brass but I don't reload so I wouldn't be using Lapua anyway. </div></div>

I didn't know Lapua made 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Is this something new that isn't listed on their website? </div></div>

No they dont but I'm not a reloader so I didnt know if people use .308 Lapua and neck it down or resize, whatever they do. My point was my gun has ran great with Win and Hornady brass. Sorry for confusion
 
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