F T/R Competition Call me dumb but...
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F-class is a subset of NRA Highpower.
http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
Click on Section 22, F-Class Rifles.
F-class is a subset of NRA Highpower.
http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
Click on Section 22, F-Class Rifles.
Re: Call me dumb but...
You can also look at
http://usfclass.com/rules.aspx
There is plenty of info around
<span style="font-weight: bold">Super quick 101 is understand 2 classes</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">1. FTR </span>
Limited to standard SAMMI chamber 308/223 + 8.25 kg limit (incl bipod + Scope)
<span style="font-weight: bold">2. OPEN</span>
Any calibre up to 8mm, any chamber + 10kg limit (incl. Scope) Front rest is excluded from weight
We shot at 5" Inner Bull and 10" Bull
Just search F-class and you will find some really good threads on this site in a variety of topics
<span style="font-weight: bold">Apologies on info shortfall </span>
hate typing on small phone - trying to keep it short and making mistakes in info was not my intent
Thanks to those that caught errors and corrected them
keep safe
You can also look at
http://usfclass.com/rules.aspx
There is plenty of info around
<span style="font-weight: bold">Super quick 101 is understand 2 classes</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">1. FTR </span>
Limited to standard SAMMI chamber 308/223 + 8.25 kg limit (incl bipod + Scope)
<span style="font-weight: bold">2. OPEN</span>
Any calibre up to 8mm, any chamber + 10kg limit (incl. Scope) Front rest is excluded from weight
We shot at 5" Inner Bull and 10" Bull
Just search F-class and you will find some really good threads on this site in a variety of topics
<span style="font-weight: bold">Apologies on info shortfall </span>
hate typing on small phone - trying to keep it short and making mistakes in info was not my intent
Thanks to those that caught errors and corrected them
keep safe
Re: Call me dumb but...
F-TR is SAAMI chamber .223 or .308 using a bipod. The total weight is 8.25kg (18.18 pounds) INCLUDING bipod and scope (and anything else attached to the rifle/scope.)
F-Open is any caliber up to .35 caliber for a weight of 10 kilos (22 pounds) without rest. The forend must not exceed 3 inches in width.
No muzzle brakes allowed, rear rest must not be connected to front rest or bipod. Rifles are fired from the shoulder.
F-TR is SAAMI chamber .223 or .308 using a bipod. The total weight is 8.25kg (18.18 pounds) INCLUDING bipod and scope (and anything else attached to the rifle/scope.)
F-Open is any caliber up to .35 caliber for a weight of 10 kilos (22 pounds) without rest. The forend must not exceed 3 inches in width.
No muzzle brakes allowed, rear rest must not be connected to front rest or bipod. Rifles are fired from the shoulder.
Re: Call me dumb but...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Denys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">F-TR is SAAMI chamber .223 or .308 using a bipod. The total weight is 8.25kg (18.18 pounds) INCLUDING bipod and scope (and anything else attached to the rifle/scope.)
F-Open is any caliber up to .35 caliber for a weight of 10 kilos (22 pounds) without <span style="text-decoration: line-through">scope and </span>rest. The forend must not exceed 3 inches in width.
No muzzle brakes allowed, rear rest must not be connected to front rest or bipod. Rifles are fired from the shoulder. </div></div>
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<span style="font-style: italic">(1) The rifle’s overall weight, including all attachments such as sights and bipod, must not exceed 10
kilograms (approximately 22 pounds). An “attachment” also includes any external object, other that the
competitor and apparel, which recoils or partially recoils with the rifle, or which is clamped, held, or
joined in any way to the rifle for each shot, or which even slightly raises with the firing of the rifle from
the rests).</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Denys</div><div class="ubbcode-body">F-TR is SAAMI chamber .223 or .308 using a bipod. The total weight is 8.25kg (18.18 pounds) INCLUDING bipod and scope (and anything else attached to the rifle/scope.)
F-Open is any caliber up to .35 caliber for a weight of 10 kilos (22 pounds) without <span style="text-decoration: line-through">scope and </span>rest. The forend must not exceed 3 inches in width.
No muzzle brakes allowed, rear rest must not be connected to front rest or bipod. Rifles are fired from the shoulder. </div></div>
fix.t
<span style="font-style: italic">(1) The rifle’s overall weight, including all attachments such as sights and bipod, must not exceed 10
kilograms (approximately 22 pounds). An “attachment” also includes any external object, other that the
competitor and apparel, which recoils or partially recoils with the rifle, or which is clamped, held, or
joined in any way to the rifle for each shot, or which even slightly raises with the firing of the rifle from
the rests).</span>
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Thanks XTR. I saw the error after it was finally posted but I seem to have a lot of problem accessing this site. The refresh is awfully slow and sometimes, (ok often), (err, most of the time) the site just blocks and I can't access anything here. Then I start doing something else and I forget to try again for a long time.
Am I the only one having access issues to this site? I don't have that problem at any other site.
ETA: It took me 10 minutes to post the above message and I had to do it on another window. Very frustrating.
Thanks XTR. I saw the error after it was finally posted but I seem to have a lot of problem accessing this site. The refresh is awfully slow and sometimes, (ok often), (err, most of the time) the site just blocks and I can't access anything here. Then I start doing something else and I forget to try again for a long time.
Am I the only one having access issues to this site? I don't have that problem at any other site.
ETA: It took me 10 minutes to post the above message and I had to do it on another window. Very frustrating.
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No problem, I've had choppy access from time to time, and a couple of days ago Firefox freaked out on it. I think Frank commented that they've had access issues when the search engine spiders hit and try to catalog the whole site, all 2.5M+ posts and bog it down.
No problem, I've had choppy access from time to time, and a couple of days ago Firefox freaked out on it. I think Frank commented that they've had access issues when the search engine spiders hit and try to catalog the whole site, all 2.5M+ posts and bog it down.
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Interesting. TRACERT shows the break to be somewhere in the sbcglobal network. I'm thinking there is an intermittent DNS issue. This is the only site that is giving me any issue.
And thanks for fixing that brainfart. I just could not edit the post for over an hour. Frustrating.
Interesting. TRACERT shows the break to be somewhere in the sbcglobal network. I'm thinking there is an intermittent DNS issue. This is the only site that is giving me any issue.
And thanks for fixing that brainfart. I just could not edit the post for over an hour. Frustrating.
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Here is the statement re: legal rifles used for F-class open, I added it as the 8mm is in error although very few would step to the line with larger than 30 calibers given no muzzle brakes allowed.
(a) F-Class Open Rifle (F-O) - A rifle restricted to a bore diameter no larger than .35 caliber. (Attention is
directed to safety fan limitations of various ranges. Individual ranges may further restrict ammunition). “Rail
guns” and positive mechanical methods of returning to the precise point of aim for the prior shot are not
permitted. Any safe, manually operated trigger is permitted. Any sighting system is permitted, but it must be
including in the rifle’s overall weight.
Here is the statement re: legal rifles used for F-class open, I added it as the 8mm is in error although very few would step to the line with larger than 30 calibers given no muzzle brakes allowed.
(a) F-Class Open Rifle (F-O) - A rifle restricted to a bore diameter no larger than .35 caliber. (Attention is
directed to safety fan limitations of various ranges. Individual ranges may further restrict ammunition). “Rail
guns” and positive mechanical methods of returning to the precise point of aim for the prior shot are not
permitted. Any safe, manually operated trigger is permitted. Any sighting system is permitted, but it must be
including in the rifle’s overall weight.
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Not to overdose a new comer, if someone is planning to shoot at the World Championship in 2013, it will be held under the ICFRA rules which limits the open caliber to 8mm, which would eliminate the .338s. I have only seen someone brave that without a brake once at a match and he paid the price!
http://icfra.com/page4.htm
Not to overdose a new comer, if someone is planning to shoot at the World Championship in 2013, it will be held under the ICFRA rules which limits the open caliber to 8mm, which would eliminate the .338s. I have only seen someone brave that without a brake once at a match and he paid the price!
http://icfra.com/page4.htm
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Denys, you are looking in the TR rules not the F class rules:
<span style="font-style: italic">F2.3. An F/TR Class rifle is limited to .223 Remington or .308 Winchester calibre chambers or their commercial metrification equivalents. Chamber dimensions must conform to SAAMI or CIP dimensions. Ammunition may be commercially made or hand-loaded as defined in Rule F2.24. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #009900">There is no restriction on bullet weight.</span></span> The F/TR rifle class is limited to the use of an attached bipod and/or a sling as front supports, optionally together with a rear bag none of which provide a positive mechanical means of returning the rifle to its precise point of aim for the next shot . The overall weight must not exceed 8.25kg including all attachments (such as, but not limited to, its sights and bipod, if any). NB: An ‘attachment’ is defined as in Rule F2.2. All other Technical Rules apply.</span>
Pretty much every time someone schedules a Full Bore match someone asks that question. My club started doing a few Full Bore matches two yrs ago and I had to figure this one out. We have one shooter who furious that he couldn't use his normal loads. I was really new, once someone pointed me in the right direction I figured it out, I tried to explain it to him but he was having no part of it. (oh well)
Denys, you are looking in the TR rules not the F class rules:
<span style="font-style: italic">F2.3. An F/TR Class rifle is limited to .223 Remington or .308 Winchester calibre chambers or their commercial metrification equivalents. Chamber dimensions must conform to SAAMI or CIP dimensions. Ammunition may be commercially made or hand-loaded as defined in Rule F2.24. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #009900">There is no restriction on bullet weight.</span></span> The F/TR rifle class is limited to the use of an attached bipod and/or a sling as front supports, optionally together with a rear bag none of which provide a positive mechanical means of returning the rifle to its precise point of aim for the next shot . The overall weight must not exceed 8.25kg including all attachments (such as, but not limited to, its sights and bipod, if any). NB: An ‘attachment’ is defined as in Rule F2.2. All other Technical Rules apply.</span>
Pretty much every time someone schedules a Full Bore match someone asks that question. My club started doing a few Full Bore matches two yrs ago and I had to figure this one out. We have one shooter who furious that he couldn't use his normal loads. I was really new, once someone pointed me in the right direction I figured it out, I tried to explain it to him but he was having no part of it. (oh well)
