Boulder LEOs charged on Elk shoot

[Foul Mike]

You can't cure Stupid, from Ron White or somebody.
A bunch of charges filed and both arrested.
Didn't get swept under the rug and hidden away as some would have wished.
They get their day in court and that is what matters. Innocent until proven Guilty.
Regards, FM
I think they are both on paid admin. leave for a while, or their vacation time, or something?

 

[timesublime]

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[High Binder]

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I fully expected them to skate on it, glad they didn't.

 

[Foul Mike]

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It is a bad thing. I can't believe some of these asshats. These two epitomize my respect for LE. Not all are bad, however, I think these two took arrogance 101 and passed with flying colors.
Need all of the facts before judging. I also hope that they don't find this kind of mentality through out their rank and file.
Boulder PD has been in damage control mode for a while now and I commend them for their handling things out in the open. Gives me hope. Regards, FM

 

[Foul Mike]

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They are now un-paid leave and their cell talk is on 9 News Denver.
With that out there I wonder where they can find a jury?
Boulder PD on full damage control. Regards, FM

 

[pinsandpitons]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are now un-paid leave and their cell talk is on 9 News Denver.
With that out there I wonder where they can find a jury?
Boulder PD on full damage control. Regards, FM </div></div>

Yea, trial by the media before-hand is never a good thing. I'm real glad they are facing the music, but releasing evidence for ongoing investigation is not good policy. Perhaps that's part of the damage control by the PD though...

 

[SniperCJ]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need all of the facts before judging.</div></div>

Why Mike? Youve never needed any facts to persecute LEO in the past. Why start now? Youre in the 'all LEO are arrogant asshats until proven otherwise" crowd and always have been.

These two idiots are typical of the 10-15% of cops that feed your contempt for the rest of us. Guys like that dont make it to the Admin level and therefore all those 'cover ups' that you think happen dont really happen. Youre still stuck in the Serpico days. That changed a loooong time ago.

These morons will thankfully lose their jobs.

 

[In2b8u]

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Pesky texting apps...........

Text conversation between officers

 

[In2b8u]

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I agree with CJ, it is the small percentage of piss poor behavior and judgement, that cast shadow on the overall performance of any agency or department.

 

[High Binder]

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Man this is the big story all over Colorado news/radio stations. Sounds like they really fucked up with the texts and bribes and all that.

 

[5spd]

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Last I heard on the local news was they are now fired from the PD and have been arrested.

 

[Foul Mike]

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Sniper CJ, I want them to have their day in court. Who knows, maybe they are innocent.
I am trying to keep an open mind on this. Are you?
Regards, FM

 

[pawprint2]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Need all of the facts before judging.</div></div>

Why Mike? Youve never needed any facts to persecute LEO in the past. Why start now? Youre in the 'all LEO are arrogant asshats until proven otherwise" crowd and always have been.

These two idiots are typical of the 10-15% of cops that feed your contempt for the rest of us. Guys like that dont make it to the Admin level and therefore all those 'cover ups' that you think happen dont really happen. Youre still stuck in the Serpico days. That changed a loooong time ago.

!!!!You are WAY-OFF! 10-15% ARE YOU KIDDING, maybe 1/10 of 1%!!!!! You are right-on with the statement that the very few bad cops in the USA "don't make it to Admin Level". There aren't any "cover-ups", this stuff is just made up to make LE look bad. How do the 1/10 of 1% get caught? Easy: because of the other 99.9%!

These morons will thankfully lose their jobs. </div></div>

 

[Foul Mike]

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I am not into persecute but prosecute those that do wrong.
I know not all LEOs are bad, but, I do know some are.
If it were, that 99% took care of the bad ones it would be an improvement.
One person posted on a different thread about this that he hoped it would blow away and be swept under the rug. Didn't happen!!
The Hippies in Boulder were all over it from the start.
It could have easily gone down some where else and no one question LEO. Or they would have "squared it away," That didn't happen either.
These two Asshats besmirched the good done by others and renewed my belief that there needs to be improvement Regards, FM

 

[Foul Mike]

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Both resigned yesterday at 13:00 local time.
The Police Chief was on TV and in a few words said they had their choice, get fired or resign.
I do commend the Boulder PD for being up front with this thing. I don't think they had any choice as the Fruits and Nuts of Boulder had the goods on them and no graceful way to back out. Regards, FM

 

[pawprint2]

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What an absolute shame! As per FM, both resigned, this means no conviction on their record, they will still be able to work in LE, get Handgun Permits etc. The 1/10 of 1% of LE that are this type of low life scum, give the 99.9% a bad name. I just hope no other honest PD hires these guys. I am assuming that this was their "deal", and the DA will drop the charges. I hope I'm wrong, and they face the SAME charges any other U.S.citizen would face-you know equal justice for ALL.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

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As a foreigner, I will say that if (IF) any and all civilians would have received a record/fine/imprisonment out of an ordeal such as this, then THEY SHOULD HAVE TOO.

And again, saying such, IF that is the case, then these two put a black-eye on all the LEO's, because of the double-standard implied.

THAT is the thorn in our sides.


....IF,,,,

 

[SniperCJ]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pawprint2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What an absolute shame! As per FM, both resigned, this means no conviction on their record...</div></div>

How does the fact that they resigned have anything to do with whether they get convicted or not? One is an internal administrative action and the other is decided by the County District Attorney. I dont beleive I have ever seen internal admin actions have any impact on external judicial actions. I suspect (and hope) they will still face criminal charges

 

[pawprint2]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pawprint2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What an absolute shame! As per FM, both resigned, this means no conviction on their record...</div></div>

How does the fact that they resigned have anything to do with whether they get convicted or not? One is an internal administrative action and the other is decided by the County District Attorney. I dont beleive I have ever seen internal admin actions have any impact on external judicial actions. I suspect (and hope) they will still face criminal charges </div></div>

Please re-read, then re-read again my post, you will read, " am assuming that this was their "deal", and the DA will drop the charges. I hope I'm wrong, and they face the SAME charges any other U.S.citizen would face-you know equal justice for ALL."
My assumption is based on what I have read year after year, too often the, "they were forced to resign" seems to cover far to much when govt. people are involved, this included LE.
Once again, I hope I am wrong! I hope these two low-life, pieces of crap face the same music as any other low-life, scum bag. They have made the 99.9% honest LE's in the US look like criminals, those that just don't believe the laws include them. Some jail time should be in order, if it would be in order for anyone else. I'm sure the honest LE's in the US would agree with that.

 

[Phylodog]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pawprint2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> They have made the 99.9% honest LE's in the US look like criminals</div></div>

I don't understand that sentiment. I don't look at gun owners differently after an incident like Sandy Hook. I don't look at catholic priests differently after one is convicted of molestation. I also didn't blame Ronald Reagan when Bill Clinton jammed a cigar up Monica's ass.

 

[pawprint2]

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Phylodog, how right you are! The sad truth is, when LEO's commit crimes, they make national news (as in this case). As far as I know Bill and monica did not commit a crime, clinton, was never convicted of a crime, he had however taken an oath to 'protect and defend'. Priests and the Sandy Hook crazy are not in a position of authority, operating under the color of law, LE is. Priets and the Sandy Hook crazy are not exempt from many laws, LE is.
We, the American Public do not pay priests nor did we pay the Sandy Hook crazy to enforce our laws, we do however; pay LE to enforce our criminal laws-equally--justice for ALL. There are entire web sites dedicated to the wrong doing of LEO's, I'm sure most are just made up fiction this just can't be true. And one must remember, CJ Sniper (an expert on these matters) has pointed out, none of the very few criminals that some how become LEO's ever get to a supervisory role. Yet, because of the actions of a very, very few (less than 1/10%) even chiefs are painted with the same brush by many. Not that it would make sense to do so to you, but to many American's, it is easy to use that big brush. Racial profiling is a good example: It wouldn't make sense to you, but sadly, to many people it seems like a good idea.

 

[SniperCJ]

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Youre related to Mike arent you Pawprint? Where LE is concerned, there is a conspiracy under every bush.

Im an 'expert in these matters', at least more than you, because at least Ive seen both sides of the fence, being LEO and all. You havnt a clue as to the inner workings of a PD. Charges get filed and convictions get handed down every day, including to LEO's, but you dont hear about them do you? So there MUST have been a behind the doors conspiracy!

Maybe I should start a website dedicated to the wrongdoings of, oh I dont know, electricians or something.

 

[Foul Mike]

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CJ, why don't we hear about all of these convictions that are handed down every day?

 

[Pusher591]

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I'm Leo and I hear about them a good bit. Stay connected to Law Enforcement websites and you will hear about them more. My Sergeant usually goes over them with us, just to keep people in check and make them think twice about what they have to lose if they made a bad choice. For the most part, our PD has some great guys that take pride in what they do and wouldn't do anything like that.

Just so happens another PD in my County had 5 officers charged with drug violations and federal bribery charges. I knew several of them and I don't feel bad for them at all. Hope they get what they deserve.

Contrary to what most people think, MOST police respect theirselves, their job, and the citizens they work for. MOST are good guys and just want to be good at what they do, and try to do their best with the tools they have at hand.

 

[SniperCJ]

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You dont hear about them for the same reason you dont hear about any other of the thousands of convictions that happen every day. Today the Boulder stuff is news. Its fresh. Six months from now when the judicial process has run its course, the media has gone on to bigger, fresher things and running a six month old story update isnt worth the print room. Doesnt mean it didnt happen.

 

[pawprint2]

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CJ SNIPER, how right you are, I've state once on this string, and shall do so again, you are an expert! One only need to read your posts, when you stated, """Guys like that dont make it to the Admin level and therefore all those 'cover ups' that you think happen dont really happen.""" I felt good as an American, that really helps clear thing up for me, and I'm sure all the others reading this string. Thanks for setting the record straight! If that was coming from someone else, someone without your expert knowledge it wouldn't carry the same weight, however; having a real expert right here on this board it great, thanks again.

 

[pawprint2]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Youre related to Mike arent you Pawprint? Where LE is concerned, there is a conspiracy under every bush.

Im an 'expert in these matters', at least more than you, because at least Ive seen both sides of the fence, being LEO and all. You havnt a clue as to the inner workings of a PD. Charges get filed and convictions get handed down every day, including to LEO's, but you dont hear about them do you? So there MUST have been a behind the doors conspiracy!

Maybe I should start a website dedicated to the wrongdoings of, oh I dont know, electricians or something. </div></div>
CJ SNIPER you are an expert on all matters concerning police, but your ability to spot blood relations is not up to standards. Why would you make such a remark? I stated you are an expert, you seem to take that as an insult, don't be insulted, be proud-you're the man! Based on your posts, I doubt if anyone on the board, or any other board has anywhere close to your knowledge-on all things concerning police matters that is, not -who is related to who matters, you fall short there! In some places- "up in them hills" type places, there aren't too many branches on the family trees, it is safe to assume everyone from one of those given areas is related, I don't live in one of those places-how is it where you live?

 

[Foul Mike]

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Pusher, thanks for your input, I think it is right in there.

If you google Boulder elk shooting it brings up a bunch of stuff.
There are talks given by the DA and BPD Chief. Lots of stuff being out there and gettin er done. Kudos on that.
The DA thinks he will have this all wrapped up by the end of the year. Is that a long time for something like this? or just how long it usually takes?
Read some of the comments left on some of those sites and you will soon start thinking,
"Damn, those Hippies and Fruits and Nuts in Boulder are on a crusade now>"
These 2 fucked up bad and there are lots of people watching this closely. [Check out some of the sites for those wakes, vigils, walks ad nauseum,]they pulled this jerk off in the wrong place!!! and then posed for pictures from the citizens? Words like lash-up, juked up, inbred, moronic MFs come to mind.
Watch all that shit and make up your own mind. Regards, FM

 

[timesublime]

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F**king Boulderites...

Elk Memorial