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Sidearms & Scatterguns Kimber Warrior problems. HELP!

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A friend of mine in the Marine Corps has a Kimber Warrior. The gun was bought brand new. He's been having problems with the gun. Sometimes it will fail to feed, sometimes the gun will fire one shot and the slide will lock to the rear while ejecting the spent round. We've tried different mags, different ammo including ball, hollow points, even Gold Dot. The gun does run somewhat better with 8 round mags instead of 10 round mags if that helps. I have several Colts, a Kimber and a SIG, all of these guns will take 10 round mags or 8 round mags, so I don't think it's the mags. Any suggestions on how to remedy this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Take it to one of the dealers that is gouging people ,and trade it in on a springfield. So they are left with the problem ,and he has a gun that functions.
 
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I told him to get a Colt, SIG or an Operator but he wants a Warrior cause of Recon.
 
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Tell him to have someone who knows what they are looking at check the extractor hook for proper geometery and the extractor for proper tension. Likewise, while they are looking the gun over, have them check the feed ramp angle, proper spacing between the barrel throat and feed ramp.

Then run some known quality mags....I suggest either Chip McCormicks or Wilson 47Ds
 
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what brand of mags? are the mags new or old? is he gripping the gun properly? the only ammo I could get to feed reliably in my desert warrior was remington golden saber. you say hes had the gun since new. is this a recent purchase or is he just now taking it out? has it been cleaned recently? has he shot the 1911 platform before?
 
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Thanks guys. The mags we have been trying have been Chip McCormick, Wilson, Colt, SIG. He has shot the 1911 before. I thought he was possibly limp wristing it, but he's not. The gun is not a recent purchase. Hes had it since around 05. Thank you. This is the feedback I'm needing.
 
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Has he had these issues before or is this a new problem? And you say the mags work in your 1911? New mag springs maybe? It could still be his grip. He could be riding the thumb along the slide or his thumb could be pushing the slide stop up. You didn't say if when the slide locks back if it locks fully back with the slide stop holding it or if a round is holding it back keeping it from going into battery. What gr ammo are you using? It still sounds like a grip issue to me from what you are saying.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigBoss0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does he have a recoil buffer in his pistol? </div></div>

Yes.

And also the slide stop is what's holding the slide open as if it's locked open after a last round.

He said he's going to clean it and send it back to Kimber. I'll give an update on how they handle it.
 
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I took the recoil buffer out of my kimber, it was too large and sometimes didnt allow reliable feeding. his thumb may be pushing the slide stop up due to his grip. he should shoot one-handed adn see what happens. be interesting to hear what kimber says.
 
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Poor bastard, has to deal with Kimber's customer service.. tell him my thoughts and prayers go out to him. If he was insistent on Kimber before, let's see how he does after talking to those pricks.
 
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Get rid of it fast and never buy another Kimber, that's what I did many many years ago!
 
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Fail to feed- what sort of failure? With Kimber it could be a feedramp issue or mag issue..

Slide lock- getting into mag issues possibly. Does the slide stop have brass marks on it? I would guess rounds are sitting high enough in the mags to trip the slide lock before empty. I would try to find some good/quality mags that will run in the gun then start trying to ID where other problems are.
 
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Now we have guys throwing Kimbers out. great....I own this pistol and mine has always run like a champ, no issues other than those that come with owning a pistol like this NEW.

Look, you have a friend that bought a Kimber DW seven (7) years ago. You also say you told him to get other models...seven years ago? When did he buy this pistol?

BigBoss asks you a very important question and I am still waiting for a disciplined answer <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">"Has he had these issues before or is this a new problem?"</span></span> Why is this important? Because back seven years ago these were coming through pretty damn tight and they required more than a four hundred rounds through the pipe before they even began to run properly. That was the price of a match barrel/bushing and the accuracy these rigs were capable of. Seven years ago, he could have sent this rig back and had them fix it free.

So BigBoss is right.

1. Please, Answer his question.
2. With some reasonable amount of accuracy, how many rounds has he shot through this pistol?
3. Does he still have the ORIGINAL mag that came with the DW? If he does, put everything else away until we get some baseline answers.
4. Nothing can drive a pistol to its knees faster than a buffer. Some pistols (GLOCKS) stop with them in, others just start to intermittently go bad. A person that thinks a pistol like a DW needs a buffer is more than capable of changing a whole host of things (think springs) and we need to know what has been done to this pistol.
5. The case, we need you to look at a fired case and tell us if the internal extractor is biting the case.

Where you are heading:

1. You are going to check the extractor tension. You are going to look for a small rough groove on the contact facing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o-XoJVNAo8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFoZPF2-FM

2. You are going to check your firing pin stop.

If you did send that pistol back seven years ago, Kimber would have:

1. Polished the push rod
2. Reamed and polished the chamber, polished the barrel throat.
3, Polished the breach face and feed ramp.
4. Check the extractor tension and looked for a small groove on the contact facing.That would have been polished out.
3. Check and polished the disconnector.

All in all he has an outstanding pistol. We just do not know enough about where it has been the last seven years. Only the useless would toss a DW.

Good luck.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Deadly0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tell him to have someone who knows what they are looking at check the extractor hook for proper geometery and the extractor for proper tension. Likewise, while they are looking the gun over, have them check the feed ramp angle, proper spacing between the barrel throat and feed ramp.

Then run some known quality mags....I suggest either Chip McCormicks or Wilson 47Ds </div></div>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar-dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I told him to get a Colt, SIG or an Operator but he wants a Warrior cause of Recon. </div></div>

...so he is a MARSOC wannabe? They are going to be running Colts now anyway I thought......
 
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Get some wilson mags . Dont waste youre time trading it in or calling kimber. Find a guy who knows 1911s and is willing to look at it . It says youre in Texas and I know there has to be someone out there to look at it!
 
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best thing to do is just take it to a smith. We could give you all kinds of things to check and test but at the end of the day, you'll be chasing your tail.

spring, chamber polish, cleaning up the trigger group(had a mainspring housing one time that was the cause of feeding problems- horribly rough causing the plunger to stick)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now we have guys throwing Kimbers out. great....I own this pistol and mine has always run like a champ, no issues other than those that come with owning a pistol like this NEW.

Look, you have a friend that bought a Kimber DW seven (7) years ago. You also say you told him to get other models...seven years ago? When did he buy this pistol?

BigBoss asks you a very important question and I am still waiting for a disciplined answer <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">"Has he had these issues before or is this a new problem?"</span></span> Why is this important? Because back seven years ago these were coming through pretty damn tight and they required more than a four hundred rounds through the pipe before they even began to run properly. That was the price of a match barrel/bushing and the accuracy these rigs were capable of. Seven years ago, he could have sent this rig back and had them fix it free.

So BigBoss is right.

1. Please, Answer his question.
2. With some reasonable amount of accuracy, how many rounds has he shot through this pistol?
3. Does he still have the ORIGINAL mag that came with the DW? If he does, put everything else away until we get some baseline answers.
4. Nothing can drive a pistol to its knees faster than a buffer. Some pistols (GLOCKS) stop with them in, others just start to intermittently go bad. A person that thinks a pistol like a DW needs a buffer is more than capable of changing a whole host of things (think springs) and we need to know what has been done to this pistol.
5. The case, we need you to look at a fired case and tell us if the internal extractor is biting the case.

Where you are heading:

1. You are going to check the extractor tension. You are going to look for a small rough groove on the contact facing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o-XoJVNAo8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFoZPF2-FM

2. You are going to check your firing pin stop.

If you did send that pistol back seven years ago, Kimber would have:

1. Polished the push rod
2. Reamed and polished the chamber, polished the barrel throat.
3, Polished the breach face and feed ramp.
4. Check the extractor tension and looked for a small groove on the contact facing.That would have been polished out.
3. Check and polished the disconnector.

All in all he has an outstanding pistol. We just do not know enough about where it has been the last seven years. Only the useless would toss a DW.

Good luck. </div></div>

Thanks. Good info. He bought the pistol in 2010. Kimber should have received it today. It does have some scarring on the frame, under the slide stop. I'm not Itrying to bash Kimber, I have a custom carry II that's been great. I've just heard bad things on the Warriors. Thanks for the info RT and BB. I'm no pro, that's why I'm asking.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RETE8</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar-dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I told him to get a Colt, SIG or an Operator but he wants a Warrior cause of Recon. </div></div>

...so he is a MARSOC wannabe? They are going to be running Colts now anyway I thought......</div></div>

No. He was RECON when he got out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Poor bastard, has to deal with Kimber's customer service.. tell him my thoughts and prayers go out to him. If he was insistent on Kimber before, let's see how he does after talking to those pricks.

</div></div>

I have had great customer service with kimber. Recently bought two pistols, the front sight came off of the first target model on the second magazine:( Sent the slide in and they replaced it. Second one a pro carry II was having a problem with the slide stop touching the ogive of the bullet, fixed that one myself, but called them and explained my problem so they sent me a new slide stop to try. Guess I have an extra now.
 
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Maybe your third Kimber will be built properly.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar-dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RETE8</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar-dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I told him to get a Colt, SIG or an Operator but he wants a Warrior cause of Recon. </div></div>

...so he is a MARSOC wannabe? They are going to be running Colts now anyway I thought......</div></div>

No. He was RECON when he got out. </div></div>

I wasn't aware Bn Recon was issued anything other than M9's.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar-dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigBoss0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does he have a recoil buffer in his pistol? </div></div>

Yes.

And also the slide stop is what's holding the slide open as if it's locked open after a last round.

He said he's going to clean it and send it back to Kimber. I'll give an update on how they handle it. </div></div>

Take the shock buff out, they are not made to operate with one.

Change the spring, Kimber recommends every 1000 rds
As much as I love my Kimbers, some of them come with a slide stop that needs "adjusted". My EDC is an Ultra Super Carry. I had the same issues with the slide stop and had to take a few passes with the file, but it has been flawless for over 2500 rds.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own this pistol and mine has always run like a champ, no issues other than those that come with owning a pistol like this NEW.</div></div>

What issues do all new 1911s experience?

The "new" issues I have experienced are:

- Extractor not properly tensioned

- Slide stop out of spec

- Broken hammer

- Improperly timed

These all happened with new Kimbers. Of the dozen or so others I own/owned the only issue I've encountered (excepting one series 80 Colt) is firearms built so tightly I had difficulty getting them apart. A couple I really did not expect to run out of the box and was truly surprised when they did.
 
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I guess my screen name makes me kinda bias. I got nothin but love for mine.