My cans have been approved and I now need a couple of covers. The ones I know of are Tab and Elite Iron. Should I look into any other brands? So, what are you guys using and why? Thanks for the help.
Suppressors Need a suppressor cover- Tab? Elite Iron? or ???
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been using my Armageddon cover on my TBAC. great cover and i really like it. the TAB gear ones are great, from what i hear.
Another vote for Armageddon. Use it on both my TBAC and Gemtec cans.
I use a tab and have had not complaints!
I haven't gotten my can yet. But I plan on ordering a TAB!
Currently looking for one...thanks for the heads up on the Armageddon cover. I have more looking to do. Any quality examples < $50?
I have an Elite iron cover and really like it. It does seem to slide forward once in awhile, but I'm sure it just needs to be re-tied. Helps with mirage on cold days.
Anyone break the code to designing a cover that will not melt? PLEASE!!!
Is the cover sliding off the end of the suppressor at the end of the video, or was I seeing something else?
I had a TAB cover and it works ok for the first couple hundred rounds but after that it becomes loose fitting over the can that it slides all over the place upon recoil. I know TAB makes one with some bungee cord to keep it tight and to prevent the cover from sliding upon position changes and recoil so if you get one try to go that route. I have since switched to the Armageddon cover and have been very satisfied with it.
I have a TAB SAS3. Collar on the back keeps it from sliding forward, bungee keeps it from sliding back. I'm happy with it. Comes off and on easy enough between shot strings to let the can cool. It works exactly as advertised.
No you were seeing it correctly, it slipped forward. You could tell he was surprised, but choose to ignore it, in hopes people did not see it. He did not want that to jeopardized a "glowingly" positive review. That was kind of an akward situation and taints the review in my opinion. I think I will look elsewhere for a cover.
I have one of the Bower's covers for my AAC Cyclone.
Pro's:
-Mine does not slide forward/back when I'm shooting.
-Will not melt. Supposedly good for 900 degrees and I believe it. I've had suppressor sizzling hot and cover is barely warm.
-Grips suppressor well enough to screw/unscrew easily without it twisting.
-Eliminates mirage through scope
Con's
-I can take it on/off my Cyclone pretty easily, but on a suppressor with no dimples/etc, it might not come off easily to let can cool.
-Weight: It weighs about 5 oz. It is noticeable with it on or off when the Cyclone is on a lightweight rifle.
-I worry about the heat build up. It insulates so well, it definitely holds in heat. How much it holds in vs. how much is acceptable for suppressor use I'm not sure. I'll take IR temp sensor out next time and get some readings.
-Makes suppressor look dildo-like.
I don't have a soft cover and am turned off by the price vs. the Bowers at ~$35, but I will probably get one eventually due to the weight and the ability to slide it on and off easier when prone, etc.
Pro's:
-Mine does not slide forward/back when I'm shooting.
-Will not melt. Supposedly good for 900 degrees and I believe it. I've had suppressor sizzling hot and cover is barely warm.
-Grips suppressor well enough to screw/unscrew easily without it twisting.
-Eliminates mirage through scope
Con's
-I can take it on/off my Cyclone pretty easily, but on a suppressor with no dimples/etc, it might not come off easily to let can cool.
-Weight: It weighs about 5 oz. It is noticeable with it on or off when the Cyclone is on a lightweight rifle.
-I worry about the heat build up. It insulates so well, it definitely holds in heat. How much it holds in vs. how much is acceptable for suppressor use I'm not sure. I'll take IR temp sensor out next time and get some readings.
-Makes suppressor look dildo-like.
I don't have a soft cover and am turned off by the price vs. the Bowers at ~$35, but I will probably get one eventually due to the weight and the ability to slide it on and off easier when prone, etc.
I saw these at Mile High when I picked up my can. I think I'm going to go back up there soon and try one of those out. I think it's the SAS_R cover that Rifles Only sells. Looks like a nice piece of gear. I'll report back on my experience with it later if anyone is interested.
Who is making a $150.00 suppressor "sock"
The reason why the bowers is not superior is because it holds residual heat against the metal tube of the can. Thus burning out your baffles quicker. The reason why the TAB, Armageddon, and Elite Iron covers are a little more money is because they are made by hand, that takes time. They also bleed heat thru the cloth, though slower, it's still happening.
I have used the Armageddon and TAB gear covers and I have a few that have seen thousands of rounds with no issue and they do what they are supposed to.
KYS338 - any insights on the pros and cons of TAB vs AG?
TIA
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They are very similar. Except TAB does not stitch them down the middle like AG does. And AG is sold exclusively thru TBAC right now, so their emblems will be on it. Doesn't make much sense if you are running a different brand suppressor.
I strongly doubt that it holds residual heat... and then burning out baffles.
Have you ever held or experience using a Bowers suppressor wrap?
I've done a couple of mag dumps with my SBR'd Krinkov canned with an SDN6 wrapped with the Bowers wrap and it seems to cool down just as fast as if there wasn't a wrap on it, but the beautiful part is I can still handle the hot can (with it wrapped of course) with my bare hands after bump firing and dumping a few mags through it.
I'm not gonna beat on my chest to express which is more superior in the suppressor wraps arena, but Bowers will do a great job and it does very well. I haven't seen any pics or vids of it melting from being over shot yet... unlike a few other wraps out there.
I'm actually looking into purchasing another wrap, but from TAB... only for use on my bolt rifle when suppressed, and the Bowers will be used on the Krinkov.
I have an AG for my TBAC 30 and I am thoroughly impressed by the construction and have yet to really put it to the test but I trust TBAC and they back this piece 100%!
I got my elite iron cover today. Fantastic craftsmanship and quality. Fits great. I ran a few rounds through the gun with it. So far so good.
Then explain that white smoke in the beginning of the shooting portion of the video. I was under the impression we were discussing precision rifles, not SBRs and AK's. The shooting schedule makes the difference in the heat, as well as caliber and pressure.
In the precision world, the fabric cover is the way to go. Take that Bowers covers and do your mag dump, then try and take the cover off..... I have experience with all the covers.
Well, aren't we speaking of suppressor wraps in general which is being discussed here? So I do think you got the wrong impression.
The funny thing with getting the wrap off the hot can isn't as bad as you think.. you just gotta be 10% smarter than the hot can with the wrap on.
I posted this as another option... and for the price you can't go wrong. Amazingly, with this wrap you get more "bang" for your buck. It ain't the prettiest but it will do the job.... and might even do it better than others.
Someone has to do a test and review on all these wraps together at one time. I wish I had the cash to do it
If you need a precision rifle wrap, do not get the Bowers. They are not the the item for the task. Go with AG or TAB.
If you want to run a wrap on a carbine or AK.... get the bowers. But why you need a wrap on a carbine is beyond me. They would only serve as a way to take the can on and off.
If you want to run a wrap on a carbine or AK.... get the bowers. But why you need a wrap on a carbine is beyond me. They would only serve as a way to take the can on and off.
Well, aren't we speaking of suppressor wraps in general which is being discussed here? So I do think you got the wrong impression.
The funny thing with getting the wrap off the hot can isn't as bad as you think.. you just gotta be 10% smarter than the hot can with the wrap on.
I posted this as another option... and for the price you can't go wrong. Amazingly, with this wrap you get more "bang" for your buck. It ain't the prettiest but it will do the job.... and might even do it better than others.
Someone has to do a test and review on all these wraps together at one time. I wish I had the cash to do it
Trying to take a shot at me? What's funny is you claim the "other wraps" cost $150.00 in your video when they are all under $70.00
So for what you claim they are, technically you could test the other two makers I just mentioned and have some money left over for a box of ammo.
Ummm what? The can is hot, correct? You have an insulated tube holding the heat in on the suppressors tube, correct?
That trapped heat takes more time to dissipate because of the silicone cover trapping it. When you remove the covers and let air hit the can it cools down faster.
You may not be able to destroy the Bowers cover from hard use, but you sure as hell can jack up that suppressor that its covering by abusing it. You are just cutting its life span down that much faster.
Now here's a shot at you!
That isn't my video! I didn't make that video... but I do know who made the video if your interested in exchanging words with him
That isn't my video! I didn't make that video... but I do know who made the video if your interested in exchanging words with him
Apparently you have no idea of the design of this Bowers suppressor wrap. It covers the can but DOES NOT insulate it. It maybe made of a high heat resistant silicone based material, but the design prevents the heat from building up in the can which explains its ugliness/ridge design.
So you don't burn anything including the operator maybe?
.. and how immature... You maybe a long time member on here, but let the mass decide for there own... geez!
I'm sorry it had to get this far with arguing over "Who's suppressor wraps are better!", but my intentions were all about helping out giving another option. Especially, when one is trying to get more bang for their $buck$.
If you don't like the Bowers wrap.. Great.. WE GOT THE POINT!
Immature? Look in the mirror chief. You are arguing about a suppressor wrap. I presented facts based on my use.
This is an opinion based forum. We all help each other here, and from a PRECISION RIFLE stand point (which is what the driving force of this forum) I do not like the Bowers for my equipment needs. I have used them all and the Bowers was the only one I ended up throwing away.
That is MY OPINION on the matter. If you don'd like it or agree with it, then fine. Move along.
Now this is funny! How many "operators" do you see running this can cover?!
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Immature? Look in the mirror chief. You are arguing about a suppressor wrap. I presented facts based on my use.
This is an opinion based forum. We all help each other here, and from a PRECISION RIFLE stand point (which is what the driving force of this forum) I do not like the Bowers for my equipment needs. I have used them all and the Bowers was the only one I ended up throwing away.
That is MY OPINION on the matter. If you don'd like it or agree with it, then fine. Move along.
Now this is funny! How many "operators" do you see running this can cover?!
Another cheap shot... you asked why would anyone use a suppressor wrap on a carbine, didn't you?
No one said it had to be a Bowers wrap.
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IslandMike - sorry for just skimming the thread - but do you have a Bowers? Do you have (or have a buddy that has) a TAB or an AG wrap too?
What is your experience with MIRAGE. As you know - heat to the touch is secondary to concerns about mirage with a precision rig.
How many rounds of .308 can you fire, at what pace, with what barrel length and what suppressor, at what ambient temp, and in what lighting condition (full / partial (sun) / covered).
TIA
What is your experience with MIRAGE. As you know - heat to the touch is secondary to concerns about mirage with a precision rig.
How many rounds of .308 can you fire, at what pace, with what barrel length and what suppressor, at what ambient temp, and in what lighting condition (full / partial (sun) / covered).
TIA
I haven't experienced any mirage with the Bowers I own. I've even shot it in a blizzard with the guy that made the video about it... and no mirage problems, lol!
I've only got one can (AAC SDN6) I switch back and forth from my SBR'd Krink to my .308 (22 inch). In one day.. I've kept the can pretty hot between the two and on the .308 I experienced no issues with mirage.
I'm in Colorado.. so most of the days I've been shooting this year have been in the 40's if not high 50's or 60's, and clear skies.... except that blizzard day.. probably low 30's.. and speaking of the blizzard shoot... since the Bowers wrap is silicone... it didn't get soaking wet
I'm thinking of purchasing a TAB or a Elite in the near future. Just for the aesthetics I guess for the .308. As mentioned here earlier.. the Bowers looks like a big dildo, lol!
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Own the night, did you read the forum rules? You must be a paid site sponsor to advertise your product.
Sorry I thought this was an open forum to share ideas and info about tactical sniping - didn't know it was a pay to play!!! Does tab gear pay to post - just curious - don't want anyone to think I am unbiased lol...
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All I have to give you is what I know...If you don't want to learn a few things there is nothing I can tell you...If I wanted to pay for advertising it would not be in a forum that is supposed to be unbiased.
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Where you got confused is that unlike a lot of other forums, a significant number of the active members here actually know WTF they're talking about, and own/have owned just about anything that someone could start a discussion on. So when some shill comes on the forum trying to peddle bullshit, he's going to get called on it pretty quickly.
Not everyone is "tactically snipery" though.
TAB's SAS-R in Kryptek High Lander on a AAC Cyclone here. definitely will buy having a few more made for other cans by them.
I was just asking for pics of this cover in this color on another thread.
I went ahead and made the order anyway (not 20 minutes ago) and just saw this.
Looks badass. Glad I did!
I went ahead and made the order anyway (not 20 minutes ago) and just saw this.
Looks badass. Glad I did!
TAB's SAS-R in Kryptek High Lander on a AAC Cyclone here. definitely will buy having a few more made for other cans by them.
Awesome !! You wont be disappointed !! Like I said I'll be putting in an order for at least 2 more once my cans get out of "jail"
I own an elite for my m4-2000, I'm not very impressed. Maybe they have updated them. I got an Armageddon for my TBAC, IT IS outstanding. I ordered a TAB for my Quicksand, but it's not showed up yet. Should have been here already. I hope the TAB is on par with the Armageddon.
Griffon Industries makes a solid product! Been running there can cover last couple months and so far so good. before that i had the Bowers cover, I liked it, affordable and does its job. Couple friends of mine have the TAB covers and seem to have toasted them with some heavy shooting.
So I say Go Griffon Industries....
So I say Go Griffon Industries....
TAB's SAS-R in Kryptek High Lander on a AAC Cyclone here. definitely will buy having a few more made for other cans by them.
I recognize those mountains and that range, if I'm not mistaken.
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