Beating the Savage FCP-K versus Precision Carbine horse, again... (223 only)

[sausagemc]

I finally got my hands on my M4-2000 Suppressor, and besides a Rock River National Match AR as a host, i really want a bolt action gun. I have really got my mind believing that the Savage FCP-K or Precision Carbine in 223 is the best value for what I am looking to do. The magic answer is that they are almost identical guns except for the 20 inch versus 24 inch barrel. In 223 land, that is possibly 200 feet per second on a 69 grain bullet. That makes a big difference (in my head at minimum) out to the 600 yard mark for dog hunting.

Truth be told, if i could find any magical difference, besides the camo stock, i would instantly select one over the other, but I honestly can't bring myself to a final decision because of the fear that the extra speed can help get that longer range out of the 223, as i feel that i am starting to stretch it at those distance.

I don't see why either gun couldn't produce 1/2 MOA @ 100 yards, so am i just bouncing over a stupid difference or will the length be an true advantage.

Any advice or experience with the guns would be appreciated.

 

[AMMOWASTER]

For me it would simply come down to whether or not that extra length would bother you. If not I would get the long barrel and down the road you can chop it if need be. If you like the camo stock get the carbine.

Either gun will do what you need it to do.

 

[Dirty D]

The FCP-K has the bolt release in the trigger guard and the last time that I looked no one makes a DBM compatible with that bolt release setup. The PC has the side bolt release so you can upgrade with the CDI DBM down the road. hth

 

[sausagemc]

Showing my ignorance, the CDI DBM only allows me to run AICS mags or is the an advantage i don't see?

 

[sausagemc]

So you don't believe the ballistic disadvantage will hurt me at the longer distances, or is it so marginal that i am being overly cautious?

 

[Irish Bacon]

CDI has an option for the fcp-k i had it on mine before i sold it and it uses AICS mags

 

[sausagemc]

Is there any chance you recall how accurate the gun was, along with what thread is under the muzzle break? What bullets it liked. I am having a rough time finding people who have owned one. thanks.

 

[Irish Bacon]

It was plenty accurate what i did was i had a manners MCS T5a with the cdi bottom metal and i had it pillar and skim bedded, but the bolt release did end up getting in the way with certain things i had to ship my barreled action to cdi so that he could modify it to work, and im not sure what the threads are since i never took it off, it liked the 168gr and 175gr gold metal match and the 168 grain a-maxs, i would avoid a model with the bolt release in the trigger guard

 

[bodywerks]

The threads on the fcp-k muzzle are 5/8x24. The bottom bolt release is a noon issue. You don't have to send the rifle to CDI to make their bottom metal work, although they are happy to do the work for you.

 

[Mike_in_FL]

Don't forget that since you have a Savage, all you have to do is change the bolt head if you want another caliber. So bottom metal or a better stock might be more important to you later.

 

[bodywerks]

Both will accept the same aftermarket stocks and the only slight limit to the fcp-k is the bottom bolt release, but that is an easy work around.

 

[FALex]

I own an fcp-k in .223, shoots 69gr SMK's and 75gr AMAX like a house on fire. It has produced sub half-MOA groups, and is a half MOA rifle off the shelf. The PC does not have a brake, either. Between that long, heavy barrel and the brake, it's like shooting a pellet gun.

 

[sausagemc]

I own an fcp-k in .223, shoots 69gr SMK's and 75gr AMAX like a house on fire. It has produced sub half-MOA groups, and is a half MOA rifle off the shelf. The PC does not have a brake, either. Between that long, heavy barrel and the brake, it's like shooting a pellet gun.

Actually all of the new pc's are threaded. thank you for the input. I think I am going fcp-k just because it is going to have less powder to oxidize with the longer barrel and thus be quieter. plus when I get bored with it,all I have to do is list it as a police model and the range ninjas will pay more then retail.

 

[sausagemc]

The threads on the fcp-k muzzle are 5/8x24. The bottom bolt release is a noon issue. You don't have to send the rifle to CDI to make their bottom metal work, although they are happy to do the work for you.

I called savage and they said the 223 is half by 28 on fcp-k. she said the web page is wrong.

any body have a picture of the bolt release?

 

[bodywerks]

I'll have to double check that muzzle threading. I removed my brake and bought a thread protector for it. I could swear it was a 5/8x24, but it's been over a year.
No pic of the bolt release, but why do you wasn't to see it? It's just a modified trigger guard with a plastic button up front that covers the at action screw. You pull the trigger and slide the button aft to release the bolt.

 

[sausagemc]

I am talking about the 223 version, but everyone kept talking about the bolt release I wanted to make sure it wasn't something crazy

Thank you

 

[bodywerks]

It is nothing crazy. It is just a relocation of the lever for the bolt release. It will not limit you as far as what stocks can be used when compared to the precision carbine. It has not limited me in the slightest, although I'm not afraid to modify shit.
The more i think about it I'm thinking the lady you talked to don't know jack. She's probably the same person that told someone else that they received the correct stock on their rifle even though it was not the stock pictured when they placed the order. Long story short she was dead wrong and the man was sent a return authorization and had the correct stock installed. 1/2x28 is what the bolt assembly screw is threaded in - that's pretty small.

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[bodywerks]

There is no difference between the 223 and 308 version in regards to the muzzle threading. I know this because i owned both. I removed the brake off the 223 and turned it down to be a contour-matching thread protector for my 308.

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[fdkay]

My Dad's 10PC has the bolt release on the bottom.

 

[sausagemc]

I grabbed a FCP today. Totally happy with it. The PC didn't have a good feel. I see why everybody is saying about replacing the accustock. it is not amazing, but the FCP is really nice. I wanted a crazy 223 for my suppressor, i got one now. I know they make AAC mounts in 5/8 so i quit jumping around and grabbed the gun. I can order a new break in the correct size and hammer away. Might send my 17 hmr to get threaded and stick that break on it so it too can be suppressed.

Thanks for the help!!!