Thanks, but that is what I want to get rid of... I don't want the sling stud. I don't really have a preference for manufacturer as long as it is durable, reasonably priced, and available.
I have a set of ARMS #22M 30mm rings that I got over 15 years ago to put a scope on my M1A and they are just fine. I have ARMS BUIS that were made before all of the plastic crap you see now and are still holding up like new after 13+ years. I have used the ARMS 22M68 Aimpoint mounts on my ARs and they were fine. I have not had a problem with their stuff and I think they have been around a lot longer than many of these "boutique" vendors that sell stuff now a days.
So much of the accessory market is overpriced it is ridiculous. The last 5-10 years have seen an explosion in AR bling that is available in the market. Where does a company get off charging $300 for an AR rail and people can't buy them fast enough? I picked up an airsoft "knock off" free float rail in HK for $40 and they were making a profit on it. Can't tell the difference between it and one you would buy here for $200+. It is just a piece of machined aluminum extrusion that has been anodized. Heck you can get a similar YHM rail for $130 here. Mounted it on an upper just fine but the screws were crappy so I picked up some better ones for a couple of bucks at the hardware store. Total was under $50. So why pay $200-$300 for a "name" on my piece of machined and anodized aluminum? I even have some fake ARMS 22M rings I got in HK for $25 just for the tactical ring cap/rail piece (again just machined/coated metal) to use with my real ARMS rings to mount a Docter sight above the objective on my scope (AR15). These are ~$55 in the US just for the cap and rail piece without the rings... Americans are "consumers" and the companies charge as much as people will pay. I just choose where I see "value" to spend my hard earned dollars.
As for Larue Tactical, I was going to buy one of their LT706 QD rail modified Harris bipods but could not find one in stock. I think they are a bit over priced but was willing to suck it up as I am going to sell my Atlas (which was way overpriced for the level of quality). But they are not available right now. So I moved on and the ARMS looks like it does what I want, they are available, and the price is "reasonable" @ $99 to go with the new Harris bipod I picked up for $93... I am totally open to other options if someone has a viable suggestion that meets my requirements...
I also find cobracutters comment a bit funny. When I was researching the Larue bipod I ran across a post that said they were "persona non grata" on this board and most Hide vendors would not carry their stuff. Not sure what issue caused that... but whatever. I think they have nice stuff, just over priced for what it is... Sorry for the rant. I am just frugal with my cash and feel like there is a lot of overcharging going on out there. This is my opinion only. YMMV.
Really? Who gives a shit if a company is PNG on this board? Here's a protip, there other boards with experienced people. If I want to learn about AR's I got to M4C and talk to Larry Vickers or Travis. If I want to talk about LR rifles, this is where I go.
If you read my posts, you will see how critical I am of Larue. Its more to do with his prices and stagnat lever design. With that being said, His products blow ARMS out of the water and are slightly better than ADM. ADM feels cheaply machined/desgined/fitted next to Larue/Bobro. I have owned thousands of dollars in mounts over the years(including all mentioned). Funny you should mentioned this. I ordered a Larue LT-271 yesterday to mount an Atlas to my AR10. It is the best at what it does. Just have to adjust the levers beforehand. If you don't need QD, there are cheaper options.
You really are ignorant to much of the accsesory market. While some manufactures clealy place a premium on their items relitive to the technology (KAC) people buy them up beacuse that is what is used in the box.
The reason your $50 rail is not a $300 Larue/DD/Noveske is that it is a rip off. Does it have a solid anti rotational device to keep the rail for torquing? Was it designed to be as light as possible while still being strong enough for demanding use? Does it use a more expensive alum allow that allows for more relief cuts? How much R&D did your $50 rail company spend? Does it allow continous use of the top rail? Is it really even free floated? Does it have a lifetime, no bullshit warranty, that will be replaced on the compnanies dime should it fail in any way?
There are amany reasons people pay $300+ for a rail, and to the ignorant, they would have the same opinion as you
The Arms #22 rings are pieces of shit. I had them on a SPR I built back in 2005, beacuse that was what was on the Mod 0. Ignoring the facts that levers break, the rings arent concentric, and running QD rings is moronic, Would not RTZ.......It shot itself loose.
ARMS is the reason LARUE beacame the company it is today. They stole(earned) the entire market by puting out vastly superior and had great customer service.
One last thing, You are one data point. Just beacuse you shoot at dirt, or don't run your guns hard, or experiecne a problem......does not mean the product is good. Do some research and get out and shoot. Run some classes and show me how many people are running ARMS anything.. Hell... Show me a class from 5 years ago that anyone was running ARMS anything.
They are junk products, plain and simple.
People play for quality. People who stake their life on their gear generally dont buy junk.
