My First PU Sniper Rifle is on The Way...

[DRAGON64]

I cancelled my original order to Widener's and opted instead to order from AIM: For two reasons, one these are WWII PU's and two; they may be better shooters than the Widener's repro's. I am not dashing Widener's, as the rifles they were offering looked awesome. Since the rifles were repro standard Mosin Nagant's, I decided I wanted to have better accuracy than a battle rifle could offer. I will be on pins and needles until it arrives.

I'm not sure what it is, but I was never a fan of the Mosin Nagant... the straight bolt, and the WWI look and feel just turned me off. Then one day I snapped and had to have one. I bought my first nearly two years ago, and have thoroughly enjoyed it; It was an all matching 43 Izhevsk. I have since picked up a 34 hex Izhevsk and a 38 round Tula. These rifles are like rabbits... So, following the progression, a PU purchase was inevitable. One of these days I will find a 38 carbine and I'm sure that some Finn's will come calling...

 

[Joop]

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Tagging for range report.

 

[BlackHills]

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Sounds like you have a case of mosinitis lol A PU sniper is on my list but got more important things to spend $$ on at the moment, plus i got a 91/30 and m38.to play with in the meantime, Be sure to share some pics with us when she gets here.

 

[Devious6]

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Looking forward to seeing the pictures. I now have one of the CAI repros (my first purchase back before the MOLOT PUs were available), an original PU from AIM, a restored Izhevsk ex-sniper and I am in the process of restoring a Tula ex-sniper.

I am seriously thinking of selling my repro.

 

[DRAGON64]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tagging for range report.

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Hey... I recognize that forum handle. Thanks for chiming in Joop!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackHills</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounds like you have a case of mosinitis lol A PU sniper is on my list but got more important things to spend $$ on at the moment, plus i got a 91/30 and m38.to play with in the meantime, Be sure to share some pics with us when she gets here.</div></div>

Yeah, there is just something about the Mosin Nagant that just draws me in. This purchase was made without consent from significant other... I hope she can forgive and forget (again). I'll definitely post up once it gets here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Devious6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking forward to seeing the pictures. I now have one of the CAI repros (my first purchase back before the MOLOT PUs were available), an original PU from AIM, a restored Izhevsk ex-sniper and I am in the process of restoring a Tula ex-sniper.

I am seriously thinking of selling my repro.</div></div>

I considered an ex-sniper, but figured it would cost me more in the long run; will you be posting a progress thread on it... or do you already have one going, either here or at the Surplus forum?

I'm hopefull for a real nice example from AIM. I have never ordered from them before, but they get pretty good reviews. Their description of these PU sniper rifles is pretty encouraging... **fingers crossed** for a score!

 

[MJ1]

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The hook is set deep in this one,,LOL. My first was in '89 when heavy ball was $44 a tin,,,

Good luck
..MJ..

 

[DRAGON64]

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MJ1, that is a sweet looking rifle you have there; do you still shoot with it?

 

[MJ1]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRAGON64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">MJ1, that is a sweet looking rifle you have there; do you still shoot with it? </div></div>

Not much, I changed over to this one imported from Finland in '94 but not SA marked. I don't think I have seen but one SA marked PU. Not in my pay grade.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Gripped deeply in the jaws of Mosinitis, I too acquired a CAI '43 Izshevsk 91/30 this past Summer, just so I could shoot some '78/188 Spammo a friend gifted me when he opened it and found out it wasn't X39.

Bought dies and a collet puller, and pulled/remetered powder charges to the X54R.net spec of 49.1gr. Accuracy tightened way up. Also have handloads using PPU brass, HDY 150gr Interlock Spitzer BT ".303 cal.", WLR and 49.0gr of IMR-4064.

Then, two weeks ago I found a pair of Hex '34 Izshevsk 91/30's for my grandkids to work up their Vintage Bolt Gun skills with, all cleaned up and waiting for the Grand Thaw here in CNY (Essentially, after the Mid-January Short Thaw, we see white from the last week in January to sometime in Mid-Late March). They bought up a bunch of Zombie Targets, and are working up a skirmisher 'Zombie Apocalypse" Training Cycle. I see fun in the near future.

Not sniper rifles, I like them better with the original equipment iron sights. These kids have the eyes and the commitment to make them work.

Greg

 

[DRAGON64]

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Excellent! I have been pulling down some of the 147gr ball ammo, and remetering the powder from a cool 48gr to 46gr. I'm using Lapua brass and CCI #34 primers. I have not tested these yet, but hope to in the next couple weeks.

 

[Devious6]

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I haven't put any pictures of it up. I have one of the Mosin gurus do my work - he does a full match prep for me. I'll have to get a few better pictures of it before I send it off to George.

 

[DRAGON64]

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I called AIM today to check status, as my order had not updated much since I hit the order button... it shipped today, and I could possibly pick it up on Tuesday...<gleen>

 

[Yustax]

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If you want precision, go for the Finn made Mosin Nagant. The M39 and M28 has excellent accuracy, and you just need a scope mount.

 

[DRAGON64]

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An M28 or M39 are on my "next" list, I hope to get one before the rpices get out of reach... but I would not a scope to them, as I find them perfect the way they are. If any were to be an ex-sniper, the I would convert it.

I should have my PU Sniper rifle tomorrow, according to AIM... waiting on a call from FFL is like waiting for water to boil!

 

[Yustax]

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You can just get a perfect machined turn down bolt and just install it in your rifle, the whole bolt body for like 65 bucks, and then a see through scope mount that doesnt requires that you drill through anything.

http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/

 

[DRAGON64]

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Received my PU Sniper rifle and I could not be happier; all numbers match, bore appeared bright. The light was fading, so I have not looked the rifle over real good, that will come when I clean it up on Saturday. So here are the fading light pictures of my `43 Izhevsk "Roza":

 

[Joop]

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Excellent!

Correct stock with a nice finish, too. I hope you'll post a range report, asap, as well.

 

[DRAGON64]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent!

Correct stock with a nice finish, too. I hope you'll post a range report, asap, as well. </div></div>

Thanks Joop... I believe that I owe this purchase to you. Had you not pressed me on the topic, I would have ended up with a repro... thank you!

Now about the stock; I'm a little fuzzy on Mosin Nagant correctness... what makes this one correct? I was happy with just having all the numbers match, and bore being bright, but a correct stock would just be the icing on the cake som to speak.

 

[Joop]

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No problem, Dragon. I couldn't sit by and watch you get a repro when I knew this honey was waiting for you to pick her up, for only ten dollars more!

The stock is Izhevsk (noted by the round cartouche on the butt) and is a wartime production stock. The sling slots that are only holes in the wood, or that have the "half liners" are a trait that narrow this down. They stopped using the screwed in sling escutcheons in about 1941 and didn't start using the full stamped ones until late '43 or '44.

 

[longguntoter]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MJ1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The hook is set deep in this one,,LOL. My first was in '89 when heavy ball was $44 a tin,,,

Good luck
..MJ.. </div></div>My God man, that rifle is beautiful! I have two Mosins, but not a clean sniper like that.

 

[DRAGON64]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Joop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Excellent!

Correct stock with a nice finish, too. I hope you'll post a range report, asap, as well. </div></div>

One more question regarding the stock; my stock has another pin that runs through the wrist region. It is barely noticeable in the posted image; but could this possibly be a repair? I don't remember any rearward recoil lugs...

 

[Joop]

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Yes, they put crossbolts in for repairing cracks. Look it over really well, but it should be fine.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Scratched my itch yesterday. Put in an Amazon order for the AIM Sport 2-7x42 LER scope, Scout Mount and 30mm rings package. Replaces rear sight. With shipping, a C-note and some coin.

I know, I know; it's cheap, it's not anything like original, and there have been issues with rigidity in the mount interface.

My only concern is that I want something that allows better target resolution and some sight adjustability that's simpler than wielding a hammer and punch. So far this 91/30 has been providing performance that begins to look like a scope could provide a better potential.

The main feature I like about it is that the rifle can be returned to original condition without any blemish remaining, if needed.

Besides, I haven't been able to determine whether the PU versions allow for the use of stripper clips. This option should, and should also eliminate needs for things like bent bolt handles, etc.. I also think the PU versions have a very high sight axis, and wonder how that affects the cheekweld.

I'm not looking for a replica or a vintage system, but rather one that uses current technology to serve a similar purpose. I have few illusions about the original M-N Sniper's capability, I think it placed a significant burden on the operator to obtain its potential. Maybe this approach can ease that workload somewhat. If the optic proves unsat, the 30MM rings may allow for replacement with a dot scope.

Greg

 

[DRAGON64]

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The PU's do have a higher cheek weld, and the scopes do not allow useage of the stripper clip. I'm okay with that, as the high scope incedense allows for the irons to still come into play. As for the bent bolt; the bolt tends to aid in cycling, as the bolt being longer grants a torque advantage over the straight... which would come in handy when you get the occasional sticky bolt.

 

[DRAGON64]

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I managed a little time this eveing to get a jump on rifle disassembly, and ran into some issues that have me pausing for concern. This post will be slightly pick heavy I highlight the problems encountered with the stock:

First off, the rifle has a wrist pin installed...

More than likely the stock has a crack, but it is not visible from the outside. What is visible, is how deep the action is seated in the stock...

Fresh shaved wood indicating relief in order for the stock to sit this deep...

The hidden culprit...

The stock was shimmed on the reverse side where the magazine recesses are...

More trimmed wood is evident to get stock to fit the action...

More shaved wood relief indicated in the scope mount relief, and indications that the stock is getting smoke'n hot from the barrel which must be touching it...

Am I seeing a cause for concern? Should I seek a replacement stock? Once cleaned up I can shoot the rifle to see how she performs, unless anyone sees a reason I should not use this stock. I do not want to restore this rifle and stock, but I have to ask; would a bed0job help the repair and better seat the action? I honestly do not know, as there are some things in riflry that are just out of my league

 

[MJ1]

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Someone spent a lot of time fitting the action that could be a good thing. Don't clean it up anymore than the bore and shoot it then you will know more. Clean the bore and iron sight it at 100M and see what you have. Boil all the crap off it and it's yours no returns. If the action is flat and not bending or flexing in the stock your good to go. You didn't buy a new rifle here.I have several shimmed actions Russian and Finn the shoot true. Good luck.

Cheers
...MJ...

 

[Joop]

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I agree with MJ. Take it out and shoot it. It may be just fine. I have one stock that has two similar "nails" in it (I say "nails", because that's pretty much what they are) and it shoots the lights out. It's one of the ugliest stocks you'll ever see, but the rifle doesn't know it.

 

[DRAGON64]

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Decisions decisions...right? It's just the wood I keep telling myself... the rest of the platform is so solid.

 

[DRAGON64]

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I flipped the coin and decided to keep the rifle... one thing led to another and well... to coin a Marine's chant; "This is my Rifle, There Are Many Like it, But This One is Mine..." Yeah, the stock is stripped bare. The redhead is a blond after all. As I cleaned the stock the thick runs and slop started to come off, and the more it came off, the more it revealed another patch repair, and another crack. Luckily the crack is on the side, and could have come from being dropped in the field... if only these rifles had memory sticks to record their histories...

The bore alone took 1.5 hours of patch after patch after brush etc to cleanup... it is not as shiney as I owuld have liked, it is more frosty than anything... I also noted some pitting.

So yes, if the coin had landed on the other side, this rifle would be boxed up and ready to go back to AIM, but as of right now, it is "mine...for all time"

 

[Joop]

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Dragon,

Don't despair, just yet. It could still prove to be a decent shooter. I have some 91/30s with dark, worn bores that are still great shooters. However, there are a couple things that I would do before shooting it, if you can.

First, when you put the action in the stock and tighten the action screws, start by tightening the front screw, first. Then the rear and then go back to the front to check it, again. Then, do the paper test under the barrel to check where it's floating/rubbing in the barrel channel. Don't worry about changing anything, right away, just take notes.

Once you get the rifle properly zeroed, then you can start shooting some groups and see how it does. Before you start shooting for groups, check the action screws again to be sure they are tight. In my experience, the 91/30 will shoot best with a fouled bore. Depending on the rifle, it can take five to ten shots before it really settles in. This is a problem if you only shoot corrosive ammo through it, since you're going to want to clean it after every session. But, if shooting non-corrosive, you can just run a patch through it to remove the chunks, without scrubbing it hard and, in turn, leaving some copper in the bore.

Depending on what your groups look like, you may want/need to do some shimming or wrapping of the action/barrel, but you can cross that bridge when you get to it. For now, just get used to the rifle and try to figure out what it likes/dislikes (especially in terms of ammo. What shoots great in one rifle may not shoot good in yours and vice versa).

John

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Mosin-Nagant 91/30 replacement stocks are available cheap.

You could pick up several spares and keep the original for simply having it in original condition. The spares could be your 'shooter' stocks, and you could even modify one for better bedding, ergonomics, etc.

Boiled down to the minimum, it's still just a Mosin-Nagant.

Greg

 

[DRAGON64]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mosin-Nagant 91/30 replacement stocks are available cheap.

You could pick up several spares and keep the original for simply having it in original condition. The spares could be your 'shooter' stocks, and you could even modify one for better bedding, ergonomics, etc.

Boiled down to the minimum, it's still just a Mosin-Nagant.

Greg </div></div>

I have considered the $49 AIM stocks, and keeping the original stock to use as a pattern. I would like to to do as you say, to make modifications to aid in making the platform a better shooter for me.

On another note, I took somemore pics of the rifling, and there are some spots that bugged me, so I tried cleaning again the bore again, starting with the brass brush... It was as if I had not even tried to clean the barrel a day earlier... dirty dirty dirty. After two-hours of scrubbing and patching I found a happy point and decided to slug the bore... Let's just say that I am all funned out now, about 10" - 12" from the chamber, I was able to push the slug by hand before it tightended up enough for me to need the mallet again. I would say something is amiss. Hind sight being what it is etc. etc. etc...

 

[Greg Langelius *]

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Amiss or not, nothing is really known until you actually get out there and shoot it. That's all I do. Slugging it means nothing to me unless I am prepared to do something about it, and on a 91/30, I'm not. That's the main reason why I'm not coughing up an extra $300+ for an authentic sniper version, and refitting mine with lowest denominator modern aftermarket bits. I plan to spend most of my time shooting mine, and practically no time doing 'show-n-tell'.

So, worry less, shoot more.

Remember, it's a mass produced Russian Sniper Rifle, something we might nowadays call a Designated Marksman Rifle. The American and Russian definitions for the 'Sniper' designation are quite different. The Americans expect surgical accuracy, the Russians do not; they hedged their bets by putting a lot more 'improved' rifles into lesser trained hands.

They were never intended to shoot MOA, they were intended to shoot MOH (Minute of Hostile), 400 yard hit on a Badguy target by Infantry with Irons (4-5 MOA-ish?), 800yd hit by a Sniper with the scope (2-3 MOA-ish?).

It's not like those guys never missed. They just (mostly?) got missed before they scored their hits.

BTW, the Aim stocks go at 3 for $49, or $19.95 piece. Too damned cheap not to buy a few.

Greg

 

[DRAGON64]

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Excellent points Greg, thank you! Worry less and shoot more... I can do this. Besides, show-n-tell is for my eyes only. Weather permitting, Saturday is range day.

 

[MJ1]

Well how is your rifle performing?

300M w/yellow tip hev/ball

 

[DRAGON64]

I spent all week vigorously cleaning the bore, the metals, and getting the stock in shape, and I think she is ready to take to the range...

 

[DRAGON64]

The cartridge in the photos is my "tool" round, completely inert (no primer or powder). I use it to set up my seating die, and to check depth (3.000") I plan on a video or two, hopefully real soon!

 

[MJ1]

What bullet is that. Pull that test with military 150g ball with the correct ogive and see what it looks like.

Good luck at the range. Do you need some targets?

 

[DRAGON64]

What bullet is that. Pull that test with military 150g ball with the correct ogive and see what it looks like.

Good luck at the range. Do you need some targets?

That bullet is 147gr pulled surplus mounted in a Lapua case. I am pulling down some of my surplus rounds to use in my reloads.

 

[MJ1]

Separate them by weight and load each group separately. I bought 1K of pulled Russian 147g's and the spread over a .6g range. Just something passed on to me and it helped a lot.

Here is a target called the #14 yu can copy and print or take it to a printer. The dementions for a printer to use are in one corner. I shot these in a action course in the UK at Bisley . B&W is fine and cheaper.

 

[DRAGON64]

Thanks for the target MJ1. I tried to print some at work, but the image did not save right on my machine, so I will try from home.

 

[DRAGON64]

I took the `43 Izhevsk PU to the range... the results were less than stellar, but it was still a blast over-all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmAWhy6Q_h8&feature=youtu.be

 

[longguntoter]

Looks like you did pretty good to me. I have two Mosins, not snipers mind you, and I would have been happy with those results.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Without target/impacts info, all I can see is that the rifle functions properly.

I would do a few things. First, I'd set up a target at about 35 yards, to get a rough zero on the scope. Next, I would arrange the bench so both elbows are supported, and to permit the use of a rear bag. If possible, do something to add some length to the stock's LOP; I use a Pachmayr Decelerator Slip-On recoil Pad, which adds an inch. Finally, I'd make some sort of an effort to provide at least a temporary cheek support so a cheek weld can be established in a consistent manner. All these things should make s significant improvement in performance. I will be trying to cobble together a cheek rest that looks like a USGI leather lace on pad for my Scout scope setup.

My handloads use 188/73 Russian surplus ammo components set to the charge weight at 49.1gr of the factory tubular grain powder to match the 7.62x54R.NET published ammo spec, and they shoot very well from my 43 Izshevsk 91/30. Alternatively, I have found 49.0gr of IMR-4064 to be a highly accurate substitute load, using the steel cases and Russian surplus bullets from the factory ammo. My rifle is a CAI import, 'Excellent' grade, and it's gorgeous. The same charge of IMR-4064 also works well as a hunting load behind the HDY 150gr Interlock '.303 Caliber' bullet in Win/PPU brass with CCI-200's. I use the X54R.NET max Cartridge OAL of 3.025".

Greg

 

[Tango down]

I took the `43 Izhevsk PU to the range... the results were less than stellar, but it was still a blast over-all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmAWhy6Q_h8&feature=youtu.be

DRAGON64
Also got a 43 Sniper, blast to shoot.
Got it to shoot MOA after shimming with brass the Finnish way (Russian used fabric). Shot Match ammo 7.62x54r.
What I did to sight in scope.
Remove bolt and look through bore to a previously designated fixed point at around 25 yards. Center middle of bore on target.
Without moving, bring your scope reticle on target (I did this at home). Double check that center of bore is on the same spot as your reticle. This should put you on paper at 25 yards.
Go to range, set up LARGE target at 25 yards, shoot one round. Use dirty birt target, or shoot'n see, easier to see POI.
Look where POI is and, using the scope turrets, bring your reticle to wherever the hole is.
Shoot a 2nd round, it should on, or be very close to your 1st shot. Repeat if necessary.
FYI: your reticle may now be up or down and right or left of the center. It means the mount needs to be adjusted which is very common, as many MN Snipers do not have their original scope. If you were lucky enough to have the full original set up not tampered with, then it would not need any adjustment.
Up or down is easy, as there is an adjustment screw. If you are shooting low at 25 yards, don't adjust the mount yet, as it will go up as you will shoot further.
Left or right is a more delicate operation, as it requires shimming or grinding the mount. You can find info on how to do this the proper way on the internet, can't remember the link.
If your iron sights are good, you can also shoot your first shot with it, also at 25 yards, then bring scope reticle on POI. I used the 1st method for mine.
Also know that your cold bore shot/cold shooter, on a clean barrel may not be the same as on a fouled barrel (but it should not be far from it).
Bring a torque wrench with you at the range, to ensure that everything is still tight, a loose stock/scope mount have a tendency to ruin your day at the range.
As far as I know, all MN were shot at the factories; the most accurate (shooting about the equivalent of 1.3 MOA) were put aside, as they were going to be used as "Sniper rifles". The PU scope is not the best to shoot small groups but was not designated for this purpose. Male and female Russians Snipers made great use of the MN/PU during WWII, as well as the Finns (even if the best Finn Sniper, Simo Hayha, preferred to use iron sight better but it was also due to the rigorous climate). Both Russian and Finn snipers had a TRE, just like our guys overseas, which makes for record breaking confirmed kills.
Have fun with your MN and good shooting.
Ombre noire

 

[Tango down]

DRAGON64
Also got a 43 Sniper, blast to shoot.
Got it to shoot MOA after shimming with brass the Finnish way (Russian used fabric). Shot Match ammo 7.62x54r.
What I did to sight in scope.
Remove bolt and look through bore to a previously designated fixed point at around 25 yards. Center middle of bore on target.
Without moving, bring your scope reticle on target (I did this at home). Double check that center of bore is on the same spot as your reticle. This should put you on paper at 25 yards.
Go to range, set up LARGE target at 25 yards, shoot one round. Use dirty birt target, or shoot'n see, easier to see POI.
Look where POI is and, using the scope turrets, bring your reticle to wherever the hole is.
Shoot a 2nd round, it should on, or be very close to your 1st shot. Repeat if necessary.
FYI: your reticle may now be up or down and right or left of the center. It means the mount needs to be adjusted which is very common, as many MN Snipers do not have their original scope. If you were lucky enough to have the full original set up not tampered with, then it would not need any adjustment.
Up or down is easy, as there is an adjustment screw. If you are shooting low at 25 yards, don't adjust the mount yet, as it will go up as you will shoot further.
Left or right is a more delicate operation, as it requires shimming or grinding the mount. You can find info on how to do this the proper way on the internet, can't remember the link.
If your iron sights are good, you can also shoot your first shot with it, also at 25 yards, then bring scope reticle on POI. I used the 1st method for mine.
Also know that your cold bore shot/cold shooter, on a clean barrel may not be the same as on a fouled barrel (but it should not be far from it).
Bring a torque wrench with you at the range, to ensure that everything is still tight, a loose stock/scope mount have a tendency to ruin your day at the range.
As far as I know, all MN were shot at the factories; the most accurate (shooting about the equivalent of 1.3 MOA) were put aside, as they were going to be used as "Sniper rifles". The PU scope is not the best to shoot small groups but was not designated for this purpose. Male and female Russians Snipers made great use of the MN/PU during WWII, as well as the Finns (even if the best Finn Sniper, Simo Hayha, preferred to use iron sight better but it was also due to the rigorous climate). Both Russian and Finn snipers had a TRE, just like our guys overseas, which makes for record breaking confirmed kills.
Have fun with your MN and good shooting.
Ombre noire

I want to clarify this.
"Shoot a 2nd round, it should be on, or be very close to your 1st shot". Repeat if necessary.
That is, if you are aiming at your first bullet hole; if you are aiming for the Bullseye, then it should be on it.
Anyway, this is an old method for sighting in, in 2 shots; it works.
Good shooting.
Ombre noire

 

[rollcentre]

Love the rifle! I cant think of a better thread to chime in with my first post. I have been wanting a PU sniper for a while and keep missing the boat.. AIM is sold out now. Does anybody know the story on the PU rifles coming from monroe N.C. (IO- royal tiger)? Most places are sold out currently-- I just missed the last AIM boat last week-- R- guns site says they are in stock.. but for $800.

Last I heard there is a lot of these PU's coming into to the country and we will be seeing more of them shortly...hopefully.

Anyways, it's a fantastic piece. everybody should have one of these in the collection!

 

[ScharfshutzeK98]

What did you do to get the stock "in shape"? It looks satin finished now.

I spent all week vigorously cleaning the bore, the metals, and getting the stock in shape, and I think she is ready to take to the range...

 

[DRAGON64]

What did you do to get the stock "in shape"? It looks satin finished now.

Removed the greasy cosmoline and the chipping shellac finish... I like satin.

 

[ScharfshutzeK98]

Removed the greasy cosmoline and the chipping shellac finish... I like satin.

Looks sharp!