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Suppressors suppressor hunting in ohio bill.... CONTACT YOUR REP NOW!

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Representative Cheryl Grossman (R Ohio) is putting this bill in now. She has been hard at work putting together a bill to change the hunting law in Ohio to allow suppressors. In her research she came across what Georgia had done. The following is an excert from the bill that was passed in George. She is planning to use it as a template for Oho's bill.


Any firearm otherwise
55 authorized for use in the hunting or taking of game may be equipped with a suppressor,
56 provided that the user is authorized to possess such suppressor and he or she has
57 registered the suppressor in accordance with the dictates of the National Firearms Act,
58 68A Stat. 725 (26 U.S.C. Sections 5841-5862). For the purposes of this paragraph, the
59 term 'suppressor' means any device for quieting or diminishing the report of any portable
60 weapon such as a rifle, carbine, pistol, revolver, machine gun, shotgun, fowling piece, or
61 other device from which a shot, bullet, or projectile may be discharged by an explosive.
62 (b) The hunting privileges of any person who has been convicted of violating the
63 provisions of this title or any rule or regulation promulgated pursuant thereto by hunting
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64 without landowner permission, hunting in an area that is closed for hunting, or by hunting
65 big game out of season or at night with a firearm equipped with a suppressor shall be
66 suspended for three years."






Talked to Representative Grossman last week. Before Easter weekend. She said that everyone is involved with the budget and hashing that out right now. She has a bill ready to be submitted for cosponsership. It should be circulated for that next week. That would be Monday 4-8-13. Representative Grossman is the Majority Whip in the house. That is a position that get things done. Yes please call or e-mail your local state representative. Let them know that Representative Grossman is submitting a bill that they need to support.


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what i sent them...


Representative Grossman is submitting a bill that you need to support.


She has been hard at work putting together a bill to change the hunting law in Ohio to allow suppressors. In her research she came across what Georgia had done. She is planning to use it as a template for Oho's bill. Your Support would be appreciated.
 
As we did here in WY this year: write your employees, call them and INFORM them with FACTS. Most fence-sitters will be brought to our side with FACTS. Don't bore with anecdotes or BS. Look in the WY suppressor topic and find the info provided to our employees here. Those facts were helpful.

Remember that staffers will check a box for or against, so don't bury your call for support in the email or letter, put it at the top. Then explain using FACTS why suppressors are helpful. Be prepared to diffuse the nay-sayers. Ours here said hunters who have suppressors "could wake up in the morning and decide to poach," and that LE identifies hunters and poachers by noise. Some of these dolts think that "silencers" will actually silence a gun and report of a fired shot, as in - put can on gun and firing pin makes no noise when dry-firing. Be prepared for calm, rational discussion with folks who feel, believe and think, rather than those who discuss fact. Keep your cool, and remember that a lot of your employees have forgotten that they work for you and are sworn to uphold your state constitution.

Facts.

Calm.

Facts.

Calm.

And you will win.
 
I have sent this out to everyone on my list. Let's hope it goes somewhere and gets the support it needs.
 
is there anyway you can work this angle through your state wildlife department? Thats how we did it hear in Texas. Texas Parks and Wildlife considered a rule change to allow hunting with suppressors. When they do a possible regulation change, they put the change out for public comment and have a couple of hearings on it for a period of say 3-4 months. after that, they take the public comments into consideration. The more positive comments from citizens, the better chance you had to make your case. I emailed every hunter and shooter that I knew, regardless of their current suppressor ownership status, and asked for them to contact the TP&W offices point of contact for the rule change. Here is what they put out as a press release:

“Regarding the proposed amendment allowing the use of silencers, the department has determined that there is no resource- or enforcement-related reason to prohibit the use of firearm silencers for the take of alligators, game animals or game birds, and therefore proposes to eliminate the current prohibition. The department notes that if the proposal is adopted, it will not relieve any person of the obligation to otherwise comply with any applicable state, federal, or local law governing the possession or use of firearm silencers.

Comments on the proposed rules may be submitted by phone or e-mail to Robert Macdonald (512) 389-4775; e-mail: [email protected], Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, 4200 Smith School Road, Austin, Texas 78744. Comments may also be submitted through the department’s Internet web site and at upcoming public meetings to be scheduled around the state.”


Maybe this is another avenue that can be explored if the legislative route does not come to fruition? Maybe you can make contact with our Parks and Wildlife Department and get them on board, ask for strategies, information and help in this issue.Again, this is all just brainstorming and i wish yall luck in your road ahead.
 
I wanted to provide an update from an email I just recieved from rep Cheryl Grossman.

Thank you for contacting Ms Grossman with your support. It is truly appreciated. The corresponding legislation for the use of suppressors during hunting is House Bill 234. I am a joint sponsor of this bill with Representative Becker. It was introduced on July 17th, and we are currently waiting for Session to resume in September in order for the bill to come to committee.

I would be pleased if you would be willing to provide proponent testimony, once HB 234 requests during committee. If you would like to come in for testimony, my office can notify you of the date and time that the bill will be heard. Please let me know your thoughts.

Sincerely,

Representative Cheryl L. Grossman
Majority Whip
23rd House District
Ohio House of Representatives

I encourage everyone else in Ohio, especially those around Columbus to follow up with her, so she knows what kind of community support there is for this. I'll gladly make time to be there and support a positive change in our laws.
 
I would be more than happy to be a part of this. I was actually speaking with an ODNR officer the other day about it. Even he stated that he would like to see it become law.
 
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Please let us know how this plays out. Opposition to similar legislation in other states has been centered on land owners who fear that it will make poaching easier. Of course poaching will happen in spite of laws, that's why it's called poaching, and laws don't keep criminals honest. I would like to know if this issue comes up in OH and how it's addressed.
 
I believe that most folks with legal nfa items are not law-breakers. Suppressors will likely make poaching easier, true, but counter that with much more severe poaching punishments included with legislation changes.
 
Hippies love citing foreign law. Don't some countries in Europe actually require suppressor use so as to not piss people off with excessive noise? Look up those countries and regulations and explain you're just trying to be more liberal and enlightened like Europeans.
 
Hippies love citing foreign law. Don't some countries in Europe actually require suppressor use so as to not piss people off with excessive noise? Look up those countries and regulations and explain you're just trying to be more liberal and enlightened like Europeans.

That made me lol.
 
I would love to see this pass and it would motivate me to finally take the paper and price plunge for a suppressor. I do however want to point out that unless its on a handgun it wont matter for deer in Ohio as we cant use rifles on deer here, also something I would like to see change. I mean a smith and Wesson .460 is good from a handgun but a mod 94 in 30-30 isn't? I suppose I could buy one for my muzzle loader and use quick detach to reload haha. A little common sense is overdue. I would like to see that pass, it would help with the coyote problem we have as well.

Jeff
 
this is a AR pistol... NOT a SBR... chamber it is 450 bushmaster, and its deer legal in ohio :)

So I bought one of those Sig AR pistol stabilizers *Pics* - AR15.COM

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Well now I need another toy. I have seen ar pistols before and I can't for the life of me figure out why I didn't think of that!!
Hmm but to suppress a .450, now I have some researching to do!
 
Ring, Where is the link for what you sent them. I think consistency is key here if something was already pulled together that was articulate and well written.
 
Stage 1 completed

I attended the hearing today. Proponent testimony was provided by Buckeye Firearms Association, The American Silencer Association, and multiple individuals, including myself. Overall the hearing and testimony were encouraging, with the common myths being addressed, and facts being presented.
 
I attended the hearing today. Proponent testimony was provided by Buckeye Firearms Association, The American Silencer Association, and multiple individuals, including myself. Overall the hearing and testimony were encouraging, with the common myths being addressed, and facts being presented.

great news. would love to have gone but work took priority.

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Firemarshall just sent this to me.

Excerpt taken from HB 234 (Allow Noise Suppressors While Hunting) scheduled for possible vote in House committee | Buckeye Firearms Association
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HB 234 (Allow Noise Suppressors While Hunting) scheduled for possible vote in House committee
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Submitted by cbaus on January 21, 2014 - 8:00am. Ohio Legislation Ohio Politics BFA News Sports and Hunting
Chairman David Hall has announced that the House Agriculture & Natural Resources Committee will be hearing all testimony on Representative Cheryl Grossman's (R-Grove City) HB 234 today, Tuesday January 21, 2014 at 10:00 a.m. in Statehouse Room 116. This will be the third hearing for this important bill.

Chairman Hall has indicated that a vote is possible.

Buckeye Firearms Association has previously provided testimony in support of the bill, and leaders will again be on hand at the hearing today.

The use of suppressors while hunting is rapidly growing in the United States. Over thirty states allow the use of suppressors for some form of hunting, with most allowing them for all types of hunting. All states contiguous to Ohio, except Michigan, allow the use of suppressors for all types of hunting. Indiana passed their bill earlier this year.

The use of suppressors will greatly benefit predator and varmint, coyote and groundhog, hunters. Coyote hunting is primarily done in the early morning, late evening or even into the night. The use of suppressors will not only offer hearing protection for the hunter but allow him/her to be a good neighbor. Trappers may find suppressors a useful tool. They often trap close to developed areas or where streams run along a roadway. Should they be required to dispatch an animal, they can do so using a suppressor-equipped firearm quickly and in an environmentally-friendly way.

The use of suppressors while hunting is a valuable tool as an aid in hearing protection and being a good neighbor. It is making another safety tool available to hunters, and we encourage supporters to contact their state representatives and encourage them to vote yes on HB 234.

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