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Chronograph

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Jacob
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https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/...perchrono.html

This is the link to a new chronograph recently tested at Rifles Only. This is an acoustic chronograph that does not depend on lighting or a small reading area. I shot a 308 over it as we'll as +P handgun. This unit read every time. I also tested it down range at the target. I am sold on this unit. It fits in your glove box or pack, has no wires and is intuitively easy to use.
Check it out!

Jacob
 
my buddy has this same chrono and I'm quite jealous. no more 10 shot strings and it only picking up 7 of the shots.
 
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I've had the Superchrono for a while and I'll share my experience with it.

I love the size! It's small, lightweight and easy to pack and set up. No more hassling with diffusion screen and rods.
I haven't lost a shot with it yet, neither in rain, snow or darkness. Once set up properly (see below) I find it a very accurate and reliable chronograph.

Due to it's relative short distance between the sensors, it is very sensitive to alignment. The chrono has a set of "iron sights" to help you sight it in properly to your target. I have found these to be less than adequate. I found that even when carefully setting up the chrono according to the manufactures instructions and shoot a couple of strings, moved to next target, aligned the chrono carefully to rifle and target again, I was getting variations in velocity between the two strings shot with the same load. Some times more, some times less, but a clear tendency every time.
After having experienced this on more than one time on the range. I emailed the manufacturer whom confirmed that the chrono needs to be perfectly aligned parallel to the actual path of the bullet to make an accurate reading

I have found a way to limit this problem and are now using an inclinometer when setting up the chronograph.

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I put the rifle on target, setting it up with a stock pack etc. I'll try to leave the reticle on the spot on target I intend to hit. Then I measure the angle on the barrel.

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Then I put the same angle on the base of the chrono, pointing it in line with the barrel towards the target.

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An inclinometer "App" on a smartphone is doing the same job, if not even better.

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The display is located on the top with an slight angel towards the shooter. The manufacturers intentions is to be able to read the display when shooting from a bench, and since the chrono can measure the bullet 3ft above the sensors you should be able to set it up is such a way that you can read the display without braking position.

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I have found this not to work out well in real life. Unless placed under some kind of cover, the display is angled so it will reflect the sky and the slightest cloud cover will render the display almost unreadable. It is also imposable to make a reading when shooting from prone without braking position.
This is not a big issue since the chrono is reading all your shots and you can step trough your strings after ended shooting. I still think it's kind of a design flaw though.

I took it to the range last week, haven't used it since before christmas, just to find that the batteries had drained. I had the same battery in my Shooting Chrono for years so I expected that this would be the case with the Superchrono. From now on I will remove the batteries between use (you will need to use an Allan wrench to open the battery latch though, so it's a little hazzle and don't forget to bring the tools ;) ).

Jo
 
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Good review Jo, Thanks

superchrono-1.jpg


I've had the Superchrono for a while and I'll share my experience with it.

I love the size of it! It's small, lightweight and easy to pack and set up. No more hassling with diffusion screen and rods.
I haven't lost a shot with it yet, neither in rain, snow or darkness. Once set up properly (see below) I find it a very accurate and reliable chronograph.

Due to it's relative short distance between the sensors, it is very sensitive to alignment. The chrono has a set of "iron sights" to help you sight it in properly to your target. I have found these to be less than adequate. I found that even when Ccarefully setting up the chrono according to the manufactures instructions and shoot a couple of strings, moved to next target, aligned the chrono carefully to rifle and target again, I was getting variations in velocity between the two strings shot with the same load. Some times more, some times less, but a clear tendency every time.
After having experienced this on more than one time on the range. I emailed the manufacturer whom confirmed that the chrono needs to be perfectly aligned parallel to the actual path of the bullet to make an accurate reading

I have found now found a way to limit this problem and are now using an inclinometer when setting up the chronograph.

superchrono-2.jpg


I put the rifle on target, setting it up with a stock pack etc. I'll try to leave the reticle on the spot on target I intend to hit. Then I measure the angle on the barrel.

superchrono-3.jpg


Then I put the same angle on the base of the chrono, pointing it in line with the barrel towards the target.

superchrono-4.jpg

superchrono-5.jpg


An inclinometer "App" on a smartphone is doing the same job, if not even better.

superchrono-6.jpg

superchrono-7.jpg

superchrono-8.jpg


The display is placed on the top with slightly angled towards the shooter. The intentions is to be able to read the display when shooting from a bench, and since the chrono can measure the bullet 3ft above the sensors you should be able to set it up is such a way that you can read the display without braking position.

superchrono-9.jpg


I have found this not to work out well in real life. Unless placed under some kind of cover, the display is angled so it will reflect the sky and the slightest cloud cover will render the display almost unreadable. It is also imposable to make a reading when shooting from prone without braking position.
This is not a big issue since the chrono is reading all your shots and you can step trough your strings after ended shooting. I still think it's kind of a design flaw though.

I took it to the range last week, haven't used it since before christmas, just to find that the batteries had drained. I had the same battery in my Shooting Chrono for years so I expected that this would be the case with the Superchrono. From now on I will remove the batteries between use (you will need to use an Allan wrench to open the battery latch though, so it's a little hazzle and don't forget to bring the tools ;) ).

Jo
 
doesnt work with subsonic's=out for me since most of my load development recently has been working with subs out of 300blk, 9mm, and going to start on .308... and I cant see my self stopping subsonic load development since its just so damn fun.

Think ill stick to the CED M2...

Looks like a cool concept, but just wont work for what I would need it for.
 
Just ordered one from rifles only, was on the fence for a bit on this. I ordered it on their website, was notified that it shipped in less then 24hrs and provided tracking info, great quick service...thanks R O :)
 
I've the same crono and my idea is to put in downrange to catch the speed at 500/600 meters,the inclinometer setup is esactly my idea, so is the way to go.
The procedure for downrange could be the same ?
 
I've the same crono and my idea is to put in downrange to catch the speed at 500/600 meters,the inclinometer setup is esactly my idea, so is the way to go.
The procedure for downrange could be the same ?

Pretty much, but you now need to know the angle of descent on the bullet at the given distance.
 
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I'm trying to think something about it, for example I can use LOS Metric function of the FFS software, first crono at 10 meter, bullet path ON LOS is 3.1 MIL for a target at 800 meters, and I can also use the inclinometer to check the correct angle.

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second crono in front of the target at 799 meters the bullet path ON LOS for that distance is 0.01 MIL..... so I can set the crono straight, and I can check velocity with the velocity predicted by the software... just to have a method of comparison

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could be an idea.......I'll check asap
 
The easiest way may be to put a piece of wood up at the distance you intend to measure the velocity and shoot a shot trough it. Put a pencil, a straw or anything roughly same diameter as the bullet trough the hole and measure the angle with the inclinometer.
 
Mine arrived today, Thanks to Lisa [MENTION=1512]Rifles Only[/MENTION] for sending it so quickly.

Jo,

your posts help alot and i look forward to trying it out, weather is finally clear here and range days are planned for all next week... Cheers!
 
Same here! Thanks! I will be using it Friday at muzzle and target, comparing to shooting chrony. Great to deal with.
 
well , went to the range yesterday and tried out my superchrono as well as my magnetospeed (first time for both) I have to say both are great but the superchrono is a bit easier to set up.

I had set the superchrono at 9 feet from the muzzle and the magneto speed on the muzzle, I was to set up my shooting chrony as well but it finally shit the bed and what better timing.

I had some 308 from another rifle
this particular load was loaded in federal cases, cci br primers, 43.2 varget, sierra 168hpbt
temp was 64f , 40.3%hum with a baro @ 30.87 from my kestrel

this load was for a rifle with a 24"barrel, but I used my BOP recon with 20"

so the first velocity is from the magneto speed and the second is the superchrono:
muz 9'
1. 2617 -- 2578
2. 2617 -- 2578
3. 2593 -- 2562
4. 2577 -- 2547
6. 2645 -- 2611
7. 2582 -- 2545
8. 2598 -- 2575
9. 2575 -- 2552
10.2605 -- 2582

av2600 -- 2565

so it seem to be consistent between the 2 chrono's but I did notice that the magneto speed did start to slip by the 7th shot and had to be tightened again, I did one more string of 10 with the same results in consistency

I was able to read the super from the bench as the sunlight was on not directly on the unit, there was also another shooter a about 10 feet to my left and it did not interfere with the super at all (with over 30 free firing points at my range, why this guy shot so close to me I have no idea)

I was also to test it at 100 yards but the range got a bit more shooters and would be more of a hassle so I scrubbed that for now

all in all, I feel its more accurate than my older chrony (that knew to die yesterday knowing it would be defeated)

I hope someone does another review, this seems to be a good piece of kit..def a keeper
 
Daddy likey. This forum is so damn bad for my bank account. I haven't even gotten back from deployment yet and I've already spent more than my toy allowance...
 
Thanx for the peer pressure, I was going to get a cheapy now that ain't gonna happen.

Hey is there any support programs for this kind of peer pressure L0L :p
 
Is there a tripod mount for the unit? What tripod is that and what is an ideal height range for using the unit to shoot prone with a bipod?
 
For that price, add $50 and get the MagnetoSpeed. WAY more convenient.