Rifle Scopes Nightforce 2.5-10x42mm FFP?!

[Grand]

It's nice to see Nightforce responding to consumer demands.

 

[cjgemm]

Really? Yes it's expensive, but lets look at the standard NXS line. This is NF's bread and butter line, when you upgrade to FF which is the NXS F1 you pay $2400 for FF that makes it a $500 option. So NF is targeting hunters with this 2.5-10x42, how many hunters are willing to pay $2400 compared to $1700(1800msrp). A lot more willing to spend $1500-1700 on a scope for hunting then $2000-2500. The other seller for this scope is its weight, that's my biggest complaint with NF for hunting. My NXS 5.5-22 are very heavy! It's not a scope I'm going to put on my 8lb rifle. This 2.5-10 @ 20oz is perfect match for an average sporter weight rifle. Now add FF and even 34mm like some want and now your over 30oz and they just lost my sale because I might as well buy a 3.5-15x50 that weighs 30oz. It's a scope that fills a huge market that they were missing. If your hell bent on FF just get the 3.5-15 F1.

Yes, really...

But hey it's your money, to each his own.

 

[hamstur]

"The 2.5-10 x 42 is one of the only 10x riflescopes on the market to include side parallax adjustment"

It's a shame other tactical 10x scopes like USO 10x TPAL, Leupold Mark 4 10x and Vortex 10x32 PST don't have side parallax. Oh wait -- they do.

 

[33shooter]

This might be nice for my OBR.

 

[azimutha]

I don't dislike NF, having owned the 2.5-10X32 until I got spoiled by better glass. But it's not compelling enough to get another one. Some improvements like the illum seem worth it. But if the parallax can't go below 25 yards, why have it on a scope with 10X or less? I like the 6m low-end on the new SS 3-15, which actually makes dry firing indoors more fun. If you get one, IMO the Compact NXS turrets just about demand getting it with zero-stop.

 

[308winchester]

Side focus isn't needed IMO

 

[eracer]

i have to say that i have been more and more underwhelmed with NG this year.


cant really get into a SFP scopes anymore, not having a usable recitcle at all powers is a big turn off for me, and while you can do the math to use it SFPs at different powers, its not really practical.

Indeed. I'm really digging the new SWFA 1-6X FFP I've got on my go-to 5.56 carbine. At 1X it's a big, fat, red CQB donut, and at 6X (or 4X, or 2.645X) it's a ranging mil reticle. And I do appreciate not having to range at a single magnification when using my 3.5-15X mil/mil optic.

 

[GUNNER10]

Indeed. I'm really digging the new SWFA 1-6X FFP I've got on my go-to 5.56 carbine. At 1X it's a big, fat, red CQB donut, and at 6X (or 4X, or 2.645X) it's a ranging mil reticle. And I do appreciate not having to range at a single magnification when using my 3.5-15X mil/mil optic.

Super snipers are some damn good scopes, a friend brought the new 3-15 FFP this morning and i have to say that honestly its glass is as good as if not better than any of my previous five NF's, very impressive for 600 bucks.

 

[steve123]

First Focal on a 10x hunting scope is wasted money, your going to pay out the ass for this feature and rarely use it. On any shot past 200 yards your going to be on 10x. Any shot under 200yds your not going to need to mil or hold wind drift for that close of a shot to need your mils or moa. I can't think of any reason in a hunting scenario that justifies it.
If they were marketing this towards close quarter combat and offered it at 1x then it makes sense, at 1x the reticle is very small and acts like a red dot optic, dial up for longer engagements.

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^^ This

Unless you've got amazing vision...your not measuring shit under 5X. Your gonna be quartering that object and let'en her buck!

Your measuring on 10X or half powering this (likely scamming the system for more hold).

Love the NF zero stop...wish that was on there for that much $$$.

Die hard FFP guy here.

^ These are the reasons why I kept my NF 2.5-10, didn't see the need for FFP for this kind of optic. It's nice to have the reticle full size on the lower powers too for a change. Mine has the LV600 reticle, with a little bit of load tuning and sight in distance tuning the holdovers work great.

 

[Ledzep]

Super snipers are some damn good scopes, a friend brought the new 3-15 FFP this morning and i have to say that honestly its glass is as good as if not better than any of my previous five NF's, very impressive for 600 bucks.

I doubt that very much. I won't deny that the SWFA scopes are clear, but there are quite a few details I can find at any given time with my NF NXS's that I can't with my SS scopes.

 

[Lowlight]

NF 2.5-10x42 just showed up...

 

[hk dave]

NF 2.5-10x42 just showed up...

Looking forward to your review.

I'm seriously considering this for my SPR... the only thing that kind of confuses me is the Parallax... as to why it would be needed on a scope with this range... but it's basically what I wanted from the get go... I always felt the 32mm was too small for my taste.

 

[Lowlight]

Picture

It has a MIL-R reticle which looks great in here

 

[al22300]

Any idea on availability?

 

[Lowlight]

Any idea on availability?

Yes, I have it now, in my hand, it showed up today, so for me, it is available

 

[axeltow]

Yes, I have it now, in my hand, it showed up today, so for me, it is available

Damn LL, dick move, just kidding, i cant wait to hear what you think of it, especially the illumination.

 

[al22300]

Yes, I have it now, in my hand, it showed up today, so for me, it is available

Is it that hard to admit that you don't know

 

[c1steve]

LL,

Do you have info on what reticles this will come in?

 

[RFutch]

I played with one today I'm at the NRA show in Houston. Its pretty nice. The new illumination is nice with just the press of a button. Its similar to the BEAST.

I can't really comment on the glass as its kinda dark in the building were in. The REP did say that it has the same glass as the other compacts but resolution will be better because of the bigger objective. The parallax knob and cat-tail felt nice and smooth.

 

[ctsmith]

Lowlight, have you played with the scope yet? Give us an update.

 

[308winchester]

I was wondering the same thing yesterday

 

[800mZero]

Bump for a update or review!

 

[-Nick-]

NF 2.5-10x42 just showed up...

Is there any chance you'd be willing to do a comparison review with the Vortex 2.5-10x32 Viper PST?

 

[moochy28]

Any dealers taking pre-orders

 

[hewlett260]

I still like the Mil-dot, especially NF's

 

[800mZero]

Midway is taking pre orders! 1940 for the mil zero stop.

http://ads.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=nightforce+2.5

 

[jipper74]

This scope isn't big jump in improvement over their 2.5-10x 32mm offering.

 

[800mZero]

I kinda disagree. Yes ffp would have been nice, however dual color illumination with simpler adjustability, wider field of view with minimal weight gain, and no size gain. All for a minimal price increase. From the specs I have read I am impressed. Now if lowlight will give us a review.....!

 

[Lowlight]

I had this scope out at the SHC and all of the feedback from the initial impression was positive. Now that the CUP is over I am jumping in with the reviews I have had on hold which includes this scope.

I like it alot, I do not necessarily need a scope in this magnification range, but overall I like the look, feel and features of this scope.

 

[ctsmith]

The magnification range is exactly what I'm after so it sounds like its going to be a winner for me.

 

[glock24]

Lowlight claims his sample has the Mil-R reticle, yet Nightforce doesn't show that option on their website.

I sure hope there is more to the story, as a lack of a mil-hash reticle is the only thing keeping me from buying this scope.

Nightforce, are you listening? Nothing wrong with the MLR reticle either . . .

 

[800mZero]

Midway will allow you to back order one with a mil-r.

 

[glock24]

Midway will allow you to back order one with a mil-r.

Excellent, Smithers. Excellent.

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[Lowlight]

Lowlight claims his sample has the Mil-R reticle, yet Nightforce doesn't show that option on their website.

I sure hope there is more to the story, as a lack of a mil-hash reticle is the only thing keeping me from buying this scope.

Nightforce, are you listening? Nothing wrong with the MLR reticle either . . .

In my Best Thurston Howell III Voice :

"Lowlight CLAIMS to have a Mil R reticle"....

I don't claim anything, I HAVE a Mil R reticle...

 

[RADcustom]

Well played. ^^^

 

[Lowlight]

Reticles are fully lit, both in Red and Green

 

[-Nick-]

Reticles are fully lit, both in Red and Green

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He can photograph a reticle but don't ask him to rotate the pic... lol

 

[OKbow87]

I'm going to guess it is mounted on a rifle and he used his phone camera to get the pictures. Which would make him have to hold it sideways to clear the cheek piece.

 

[Benito]

I'm going to guess it is mounted on a rifle and he used his phone camera to get the pictures. Which would make him have to hold it sideways to clear the cheek piece.

Either that or he has adopted a gangsta shooting style into his long arms technique.

This scope sounds like it will be finding its way into my collection, sooner rather than later. Do want.
I am eager to see further reviews and tests.

 

[800mZero]

Based on what I seeing so far, this will be winding up on my emc.

 

[-Nick-]

I'm going to guess it is mounted on a rifle and he used his phone camera to get the pictures. Which would make him have to hold it sideways to clear the cheek piece.

Way to kill my joy...

 

[Lowlight]

Put the scope on the Gladius to use today ...

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[800mZero]

That looks great, loving the deck of cards trick!

 

[dogman]

I'm definitely interested in this scope and great mounting vid, as well.

 

[-Nick-]

Is there any chance you'd be willing to do a comparison review with the Vortex 2.5-10x32 Viper PST?

Any chance Frank? Maybe? No? Yes but only if I buy dinner and a movie?

 

[Lowlight]

The closest thing I have to compare it too here is a NF 2.5-10x24

I really don't have anything 10x here

 

[jonthomps]

Man I love this scope! This would be the bee's knee's on a 6.5 SAUM GAP hunting rig.

 

[800mZero]

The closest thing I have to compare it too here is a NF 2.5-10x24

I really don't have anything 10x here

Other than the illumination features what do you feel the 42 gves you over the 24.

 

[SNIPERS4DUMMIES]

I'm digging it, maybe if they up the the high of the magnification a bit...perfect.

Btw slick trick with the cards LL, that's a first i've seen that.

 

[00bullitt]

Other than the illumination features what do you feel the 42 gves you over the 24.

An exit pupil almost twice the size and side focus adjustment for parallax correction.