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960 Yards, 5 Shot group

nice work! I'ma try that license plate trick with my under powered bushnell 1200. I'm awful jealous at the apparent lack of mirage (at least from what I can tell in the video)...... now I'm all itchy to go shoot something from far away.
 
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And the 2nd thing you did was trying to tell him how he could have done it better with the joke that is horus.

HORUS can't be that much of (in your words) a "joke", since near all of the major high end scope manufacturers have now switched to the HORUS H-58 & H-59 reticles and upped their prices accordingly. Although I understand the MRAD & MOA Boys are, as shown in the responses to my comment, resistant to any change in their historical "tools", the HORUS VISION's H-59 Reticle is the future of "Glass".

Change is inevitable !

vfin
 
HORUS can't be that much of (in your words) a "joke", since near all of the major high end scope manufacturers have now switched to the HORUS H-58 & H-59 reticles and upped their prices accordingly. Although I understand the MRAD & MOA Boys are, as shown in the responses to my comment, resistant to any change in their historical "tools", the HORUS VISION's H-59 Reticle is the future of "Glass".

Change is inevitable !

vfin

Who gives a shit what reticle you have! Shut up and let the man shoot! Hell lets all just shoot.

"ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ"
 
Most of those scopes with the HORUS reticles are not worth the extra money to me.. IMO, I would rather spend the extra money on bullets and powder and shoot more! Some of the reticles do look like they would be sweet, But then again aim small miss small, Alot easier to do when you just dail your corrections and hold cross hairs on target.

The only way to get better is to get out and shoot! No matter what you have, Get out and use it!
 
HORUS can't be that much of (in your words) a "joke", since near all of the major high end scope manufacturers have now switched to the HORUS H-58 & H-59 reticles and upped their prices accordingly. Although I understand the MRAD & MOA Boys are, as shown in the responses to my comment, resistant to any change in their historical "tools", the HORUS VISION's H-59 Reticle is the future of "Glass".

Change is inevitable !

vfin

So do you work for HORUS or just sell them where you work?
 
HORUS can't be that much of (in your words) a "joke", since near all of the major high end scope manufacturers have now switched to the HORUS H-58 & H-59 reticles and upped their prices accordingly. Although I understand the MRAD & MOA Boys are, as shown in the responses to my comment, resistant to any change in their historical "tools", the HORUS VISION's H-59 Reticle is the future of "Glass".

Change is inevitable !

vfin

What fantasy world do you live in? Nobody has "switched" to anything, some company's merely offer it as an option to customers. All of the scopes that offer them come with more other options that arent Horus. There are plenty of people including myself who dislike the Horus reticle and get quicker hits with running the knobs and holding only wind with the reticle. I tried a Horus in a Leupold MK4 back when Horus was installing them, later a USO with one, and more recently a S&B. I don't like the reticle and find it entirely too busy and many others share my thoughts.

If you like it great, but if your suggesting this guy cant shoot because he doesn't have a Horus then you're a damn moron. He shot 1/2 MOA at nearly 1000 yards with a $500 scope with no Horus reticle for Christ sakes... And he hit every time. Until you can show us a video of you shooting better with your Horus then kick rocks.

PS: Semen deteriorates the coatings on your optics.
 
The vision of the reticule on the Horus appears as the objective lens of the scope has been hit with a blivet aka 20# schitt in a 10# sack!!
 
Hold on now Diver-Man. Sarcasm isn't a very polite communication skill to employ when addressing a newbie who just wanted to share his own shooting experiences here.

Besides, the first thing I did was to compliment the OP as to his skillful shooting, so unless you woke on the wrong side of the bed and have the need to rag on someone, there's no need to smack me down for simply offering my experience with my HORUS VISION scope.

Nuff said...

vfin
You can go ahead and get all offended, but you have not established yourself as some one who is qualified to recommend reticles. Listen carefully Vfin, I did not say that you are not qualified, I said that you have not established your qualification. Not meaning to offend, but step back and read your own post objectively... See what I mean, what qualifies you to have an opinion? Now your reply to my reply includes bastardizing my board name from diverdon to Diver man. No come on FishFin is that really the way you want to play? What are you 12 years old?
 
100% factory, did the trigger and stock, and shot her hard and put her away wet.

Will be doing a set back with a palma 11 reamer, and crown and bolt face and lugs and all that accuracy improving stuffs. that can be done while using the factory barrel.

hope it dont Fuck it up. haha.
 
100% factory, did the trigger and stock, and shot her hard and put her away wet.

Will be doing a set back with a palma 11 reamer, and crown and bolt face and lugs and all that accuracy improving stuffs. that can be done while using the factory barrel.

hope it dont Fuck it up. haha.

lol! if its shooting that good you're nuts to touch it =p
 
100% factory, did the trigger and stock, and shot her hard and put her away wet.

Will be doing a set back with a palma 11 reamer, and crown and bolt face and lugs and all that accuracy improving stuffs. that can be done while using the factory barrel.

hope it dont Fuck it up. haha.

I wouldn't touch that rifle, it's shooting great and you obviously know what you're doing as well. I'd put that money somewhere else. While the Vortex obviously isn't holding you back I would still be looking for an upgrade in the future if you want to drop some cash.
 
I liked your idea of painting the target green, it showed up well in the video. Dunno whether it was better through your scope as well.
 
The video camera has a 50x optical zoom, and I am using a 15x scope, There are times I can see my hits at these ranges, and there are times I can not.

This is one of those times where I seen where the first one went but not the other 4. Probly why I was able to lay down a good 5 shot group, I would have got excited if i could see it and threw one off the target if I could see them all. haha

Target size is 18 inches
 
Very nice, hard to tell with tape measure but looked like you held to JUST above 1/2 MOA? I love that you did it with an affordable setup. You've obviously found a great load on the 168s, and I'm stealing the license plate/road sign idea. Great post, thanks.
 
.56 moa according to OnTarget Software.

Yeah man if your just target shooting and have to set up a target the license plate works good, A friend gave me a stop sign a few years back, That is what I used the other day when I shot at 1260 yards. With my Bushnell scout 1000 that really is a POS and wont range a deer much past 600 yards. It gets instant readings off the stop sign at long range.

Another thing I have done is set the stop sign from my shooting position and when im setting up steel I range back to it and write it down.
 
I have enjoyed watching your cold bore videos, tks for taking the time to make them. Also some really good shooting as well.

Hardmix
 
HORUS can't be that much of (in your words) a "joke", since near all of the major high end scope manufacturers have now switched to the HORUS H-58 & H-59 reticles and upped their prices accordingly. Although I understand the MRAD & MOA Boys are, as shown in the responses to my comment, resistant to any change in their historical "tools", the HORUS VISION's H-59 Reticle is the future of "Glass".

Change is inevitable !

vfin

Change may be inevitable but Horus taking over the industry is highly unlikely. You may be new to the shooting world (or maybe not) but Horus has been around for over a decade that I know of and they have not dominated by any means. Some people would call that a "hint".

Excellent shooting Clayne.
 
Excellant shooting clayne at that yardage with your .308, she's a hammer. Wish I could shoot my .308 that good, I need to practice. Screw a Horus !!!!
 
...and he did it without 5K rifle and 4K scope!

First of all, it was good shooting and it is clear the shooter has good rifle mechanics as a foundation. It is mostly the shooter.

However, the conditions were perfect. There was no wind, no mirage and flat valley. Once the DOPE is set, this is an easy shot. When you start adding weather, wind and all types of other atmospheric interferences, the higher grade rifles and scopes start coming into play and excel.
 
Reloads
Federal Brass
168 SMK
43.5 gr Varget
CCI 200 Primer
Loaded to max mag length

I use the very same reloads for my rifle and get great results. 43.3 grains of Varget, 168 SMK. Good work on the shooting too!!

I always wonder why people push for the heavier 175 grains when the 168 grain bullets do really well out of the Remington.
 
First of all, it was good shooting and it is clear the shooter has good rifle mechanics as a foundation. It is mostly the shooter.

However, the conditions were perfect. There was no wind, no mirage and flat valley. Once the DOPE is set, this is an easy shot. When you start adding weather, wind and all types of other atmospheric interferences, the higher grade rifles and scopes start coming into play and excel.


I never understood what it is about people that they always feel a need to add a but, however or other qualifier when not really trying to congratulate someone, it's really bad form. Whatever happened to just saying hey great job!
 
First of all, it was good shooting and it is clear the shooter has good rifle mechanics as a foundation. It is mostly the shooter.

However, the conditions were perfect. There was no wind, no mirage and flat valley. Once the DOPE is set, this is an easy shot. When you start adding weather, wind and all types of other atmospheric interferences, the higher grade rifles and scopes start coming into play and excel.

Way to burst his bubble man......... Feel free to post a vid of yourself shooting so we can all do an analysis of your shooting at distance.

Once again....... Great shooting Clayne!

"ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ"
 
Wow! This got me really excited as I just purchased an SPS-V in .308! This gives me great hope that if I shoot the hell out of it and learn as much as I can, I too, some day might be able to reach out to 1000 yards this well! And by that I mean... seeing you already nail it, I now know that with the setup I'm building (very, very similar) I would be the only thing holding me back!

Probably not much weight from a precision newb, but simply amazing shooting! ESPECIALLY cold bore!


ETA: Now hurry up and post that next vid!
 
That's just plain impressive AND encouraging. Practiced fundamentals, good equipment and well tuned ammo = your results.

Yeah, I'd be happy too!
 
I never thought Snipers Hide Forum had an unspoken "constrictive requirement" to respond to posted videos with nothing other than compliments (which I gave the OP right from the get-go).

Adding to any conversation topic beyond heaping praise upon the OP, imparts other ideas, experiences and/or opinions that some may find interesting, valuable (or perhaps not), as evidenced by responses to some of the posters who also commented on the video's favorable atmospherics, conditions, no wind, flat valley etc., commentary beyond just a "Good Shooting" compliment.

As it pertains to me, my mention of the HORUS VISION H-59 Reticle's 2nd shot clearly distinct advantages over Mil/MOA reticles, obviously caused an allergic reaction within some who traditionally employ the team concept of "shooter & spotter" (who constantly have to mess with their turrets after referring to past log book entries to hit their intended target).

Additionally, H-59 and H-58 reticles eliminates the need for "spotters"... so I can understand how repulsive the concept of eliminating the team aspect from sniping must seem to many old school shooters who have a buddie callin' the shots for them...but hey...technology advances and now there's no longer a need for a "team".

In any event I hope the OP didn't take offense to my initial comment as none was intended.

vfin :::and no I don't work for HORUS since one member asked:::
 
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Vfin, paragraph writing isn't going to impress anyone. The assumption was made that you worked for them because when newbs come on here and promote products, after some digging it turns out they do or know them personally. If you really want people off your back start your own thread showcasing your skills, not reading a brochure.

To the OP I am almost as jealous of what you did with your budget setup as I am where you are shooting. As for your setup, lap/lug work and crown is all I would do.
 
I never thought Snipers Hide Forum had an unspoken "constrictive requirement" to respond to posted videos with nothing other than compliments (which I gave the OP right from the get-go).

Adding to any conversation topic beyond heaping praise upon the OP, imparts other ideas, experiences and/or opinions that some may find interesting, valuable (or perhaps not), as evidenced by responses to some of the posters who also commented on the video's favorable atmospherics, conditions, no wind, flat valley etc., commentary beyond just a "Good Shooting" compliment.

As it pertains to me, my mention of the HORUS VISION H-59 Reticle's 2nd shot clearly distinct advantages over Mil/MOA reticles, obviously caused an allergic reaction within some who traditionally employ the team concept of "shooter & spotter" (who constantly have to mess with their turrets after referring to past log book entries to hit their intended target).

Additionally, H-59 and H-58 reticles eliminates the need for "spotters"... so I can understand how repulsive the concept of eliminating the team aspect from sniping must seem to many old school shooters who have a buddie callin' the shots for them...but hey...technology advances and now there's no longer a need for a "team".

In any event I hope the OP didn't take offense to my initial comment as none was intended.

vfin :::and no I don't work for HORUS since one member asked:::

Very nice shooting OP. As Ken suggested, if that rifle is shooting like that I wouldn't touch it either. His suggestion comes with experience. Kenny is a skilled shooter who happens to work for the best in the business. I would take his advice.

VFIN - You are a newbie to the forum, no one here knows you or anything about you, except that come off as cocky and a know it all. Yet, you have no reputation or experience/qualifications listed to be able to tell anyone here that they need anything. Especially when his hits were that consistent to start with. He shot a a great group at 960 and all his shots were on target. He obviously doesn't need a screen door to look through.

How many of the top shooters in the PRS use Horus Reticles? I would venture to say that very, very few if any use them. Personally, I hate the Horus reticles as do a ton of other shooters. They are busier than they need to be to make accurate shots at distance. Contrary to your dribble, there is absolutely no "clear advantage" to a horus 59 reticle for follow up shots if you are a decent shooter and understand your optics. Most shooters will quickly dial for elevation and hold wind for large distance changes in most of the matches I've shot at. Your comment about spotters is also pure BS, you obviously do not understand the spotters role in long distance shooting. It is their ability to see vapor trails, help with wind calls, and make correction calls with a much higher power optic with a larger field of view and do it when you don't have a berm to shoot into that make them extremely useful. Using a spotter has nothing to do with your reticle choice.