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Diamonds anyone?

Boltfluter

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Guys,

I recently got a request for some aggressive diamond fluting. I think this qualifies. As always, thanks for checking it out.

Best regards,
Paul



 
I think I'll get some nekid women fluted in my barrel.

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Anything other than straight fluting is a degradation in performance. I know the spiral looks cool too, but it promotes twist during barrel whip.
 
The minor of OD of the cross section is the actual barrel OD. The guy actually added a bunch of weight to his barrel so he could have diamonds. Sorry for the negativity, it just baffles me why some people want to degrade the performance of their gun for cosmetics.
 
As far as spiral fluting affecting barrel harmonics. I would think that, as long as it is consistent, you could tune your handload to it, just like any barrel whip that is consistent.

Now, if you could prove that spiral fluting promotes inconsistent barrel whip, then you may have a point. Never owned one so that's just a guess.
 
The minor of OD of the cross section is the actual barrel OD. The guy actually added a bunch of weight to his barrel so he could have diamonds. Sorry for the negativity, it just baffles me why some people want to degrade the performance of their gun for cosmetics.

More often than not, fluting is done to save weight since the barrel is always the heaviest component of a rifle. The cosmetic look is secondary for most.

FWIW, the barrel in my sig is spiral fluted and it shoots bugholes. It's still front heavy and without it, the thing would be too heavy and cumbersome.
 
Damn that took some time I bet. I hope your estimate was worth it. Not too many people can say they were the first to do something in this industry. Congrats on a fine job man...
 
To hell with the detractors that fluting looks amazing. As always bolt fluter your work is ungodly clean and looks ridiculously cool. Wish I could afford to send a savage barrel and bolt to you. Someday...
 
Now there's a unique idea. I am playing with a new CAD/CAM system and I will let you know.

HAHA I was cruising through pics on here looking at cerakote colors and found this pic (paint by USGUNWORKS). You two could have a winning combo here
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Damn that took some time I bet. I hope your estimate was worth it. Not too many people can say they were the first to do something in this industry. Congrats on a fine job man...

I don't think this barrel is the first diamond fluted one ever made. I don't personally know of one earlier though so who knows? It just seems hard to believe no one had tried it.
 
Grant,

That is a great looking stock. Nice profile of the girls also! This may be a fun project.

Regards, Paul
 
** just to clarify I am just having fun here, I don't plan to really have that done on mine, I would like my wife (&kids) to shoot my rifle some, and in a downrange direction ;-)
It would look pretty cool though
 
What does this do (advantages) over a more traditional pattern?

I'm thinking it has practical disadvantages... Removing material linearly creates bridges the length of the barrel, essentially yielding a medium contour barrel with vanes the depth and length of a heavy barrel. Dimpling reduces weight without causing weak spots. Both allow reduction in weight and increased performance over using just a lighter barrel.

Now this fluting, it would seem to me, would cause the barrel to whip more, not less, due to all the weak spots, since the second pass at fluting actually serves to cut the "bridges" formed by the first pass. And the spiral fluting, well, I'm not so sure that is the best way either because when a barrel, any barrel, whips, it looks a lot like it is whipping straight up and down. A spiral would appear to either be less effective than straight fluting, may cause inaccuracy, OR it could increase strength AND accuracy if it were engineered to the nth degree and computer models were constructed... There is possibility there, but I doubt anyone is doing that, taking it that far.

This is just from looking at it, I'm obviously not gonna run the numbers on it, I'm not that interested in it and I don't have the programs, I'd have to do it by hand. Myself, I go with deep, wide fluting on heavy barrels, or dimpling on mediums if I can.

I suppose it may look cool, but I feel just from looking at it that it isn't practical or as practical as other ways, and it also looks like more weight could be removed while retaining more strength with traditional ways too. But whatever floats your boat, eh?

Good job, and kudos to Boltfluter, the maker, he made what he was asked to make and it looks quite nice indeed. Now fluting like this, the same diamond pattern on the bolt... I can see it being very useful in some cases, particularly if you are in an area where crap gets in there and makes tight fitting bolts not want to work.

I'm guessing you fluted a finished barrel. What do you think about cutting and fluting the exterior of the bar stock first, then boring and cut rifling that afterwards so as to reduce stress? To make it more accurate?
 
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I'm assuming the depth of fluting could be made much shallower?

Yeah, if you just want cosmetics and you have your heart set on that design. Then that would be the way to go without weakening the barrel. It's also less likely to stress your barrel, ie, bore, rifling, concentricity, etc. I'd think. You could even two tone the barrel if you like, quite easily.

But I know Satern, he made a 16" stainless Grendel barrel for an AR that had "double wide, deep fluting" on the heavy, wide portion behind the gas block, and it was (.750?) after and had wide, but not so deep fluting there too. The vortex style flash hider was milled into the barrel, all one piece. Fluting and ext. cutting done prior to bore being drilled. Total weight: 1.1lbs. That's it, 1.1lbs! I just ordered a similar one but threaded and 14.7", so it should be 1lb., maybe less!? It got another from him too, just like the one I have now, but fluted under the handguards.

So for me, when I get a barrel fluted, it is for this reason and this reason alone --reduce weight. Otherwise, I leave it be, choose the appropriate non-fluted barrel. All of my weapons are practical though, none have cosmetic features, not on purpose anyway.
 
I do FEA all the time at work and have been wanting to model all the different barrel modifications just to show people how stress propagates through structures. You may get your spiral fluted or dimpled barrel to shoot bug holes, but it's still not as optimal as straight flutes. To each his own though, if it shoot bug holes, you like how it looks, and don't mind what ever weight it may be, then your gtg with what you have.
 
Guys,

Just to give you some idea about this barrel's contour it is a straight cylinder the full length. Which is way over kill in my opinion. This fluting is only one sixteenth deep. There will be no effect on anything IMHO.

Regards, Paul