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Photos 'Snipers' in Aleppo, Syria.

Nishgriff

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Hi Guys, following are a few pictures I made of 'snipers' in Aleppo, I thought you might be interested. I'm a documentary photographer, and I've spent four or five weeks there so far this year. I've been fortunate enough to A. get out safely each time and B. make contacts that get me access to different rebel units and areas.

This is a mixed Kurdish/FSA small unit (Katiba) that I spent some time with. They act mostly as FO/scout/counter-sniper, but they have nowhere near the knowledge and skill as the Russian-equipped and trained SAA snipers they are facing. They are either defected infantry guys, or just regular people who have taken up arms. They have no special training in how to use these weapons. Despite their look, these guys are not Quaeda, just regular guys (for that area).

If anyone can ID the older model rifle it would be much appreciated. Also, please do not repost these anywhere, just thought I'd share them here. Thanks!

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Pic #2. Looks like a FN FAL in the back and a sks in the front.

Second to last pic looks like an SVD (Russian sniper rifle).
 
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Yeah, great thread and pictures. Thanks for sharing. Anymore intel on those guys would be interesting... how are their basic marksmanship skills? what are they fighting for? have they taken heavy casualties? are they in combat frequently?

Threads like this are one of the reason Hide is great spot.
 
Yeah, great thread and pictures. Thanks for sharing. Anymore intel on those guys would be interesting... how are their basic marksmanship skills? what are they fighting for? have they taken heavy casualties? are they in combat frequently?

Threads like this are one of the reason Hide is great spot.

Thanks for the interest, guys. Believe me, I do my best to stay safe. As for the guys, this particular unit is called Jabhat al Akkrad and is a joint Kurdish (YPG)/ Free Syrian Army (FSA) unit. The two organizations are loosely organized, but in general exist to put up resistance to the Assad Regime and his Syrian Arab Army (SAA). The Kurds had tried to stay out of it, and had even come up against the FSA at times. But as the Regime put military pressure on them, the Kurds (at least in Aleppo, where I work mostly) realized they needed to work WITH the FSA. That's the short version...

This unit operates in an urban area, and the distance to enemy positions is often 100-500m. It's sort of a unique venture in that two different ethnic groups are working together. Because of all the Extreme Jihadi groups, and even the less extreme Salafist groups stepping in and being an effective fighting force, many, if not most of the muslim Syrians, even if they want an islamic state, would rather embrace christian or kurdish elements rather than the more extreme elements. They realize that they won't get western help if their revolution is hijacked by the jihadis. So this group is a mix of guys from very devout muslims to christians to kurds all fighting side by side. It's an interesting story. The kurds are pretty modern in their worldview, at least in aleppo. The women even fight alongside the men. I'll post some pics of that too.

Like most FSA fighters, and even most islamist fighters, they are fighting to overthrow what most observers call Bashar Al Assad's repressive authoritarian regime. The FSA and it's 'allies' are highly splintered and not always that effective, though they have been holding their own in, and taking ground in Aleppo. Units like this, whether Kurdish, Joint, or FSA, are generally organized for neighborhood defense. They fight offensively to keep the SAA out of their area, and defensively to maintain their territory. Sometimes they band together for common offensives to push SAA forces out of specific areas, bases, or checkpoints. Recently a combination of FSA and Jabhat al Nusra forces took the northernmost SAA airbase, Minnagh, after an almost year long seige. A smaller unit like these guys might be tasked to join in a larger offensive like that, if they agree to it.

I saw them generally taking shifts watching enemy positions and possible points of attack from their fighting positions, and taking potshots at enemy positions and personnel. During my time with these guys they were able to demonstrate to me that most of them had almost zero basic marksmanship skills in the way anyone trained in the Marines, or I assume the Army, here would think of it. The 'snipers' I posted here are just guys who happen to be carrying those weapons. Maybe they got some basic training, and some are defectors from the SAA, but they didn't even know to not stick their guns through the loupe. They have limited ammo, and it is of very low quality. I saw multiple instances of brass cases rupturing in the chamber and jamming the weapons. THey also have some heavy machine guns and RPG's. Since I was last there they have started to get some real Anti Tank weapons. Any of the units like this one on the front lines see combat every day. Casualties are pretty common. I did not see any with this unit. But I have been with several other units that lost guys mostly to enemy snipers.

The SAA snipers are Russian-Trained and equipped, and have choice positions in tall buildings with huge fields of view. You have to be careful everywhere in the city and ask before walking down any alley or street. I do not know what they are shooting, but they are far more effective than the guys I posted here. I photographed at a hospital for a while and every day tens of people arrive wounded and killed by SAA snipers. Mostly women and children. You are always meeting someone who lost an arm or a leg to a sniper, or who lost a family member. I have been under fire multiple times, not by choice, and the shelling is seemingly random but never really stops. Accidental gun deaths are also fairly common.

But I'm not there to be a combat photographer. My gig is that I document people via portraits. I am fascinated by how people live in all different kinds of situations from war to poverty to wealth, from cities to rural areas. I rode my motorcycle through Syria (and the rest of the the middle east) in 2009, and when the revolution started lost touch with the people I'd met there. In general syrians are warm, hospitable, caring, and generous. Seeing them torn apart by this war is very difficult. I felt drawn to go and find out for myself how they continue on with their lives with all this going on around them. If you follow the links in my signature you can see more images...
 
This is an extremely informative post. With more research this is certainly something that could be added to a book like Fry the brain.
keep safe.
 
....in the hands of sandal-wearing people ?

Foreseeing some silver platin'custom work,
please, DON'T let me know is even 1918 B.A.R.s are there so common...

Ha! I didn't see any StG-44's with the bling, but loads of Kalashnikovs... Apparently the StG-44's were bought in the 50's, and have sat unused in crates, hundreds or thousands of them in Syria until FSA took the arms depots in the north. http://www.forgottenweapons.com/syrian-sturmgewehr-cache/

Here's some bling. This guy looks serious in this photo, but he was a real joker. He claimed to have shot down three helicopters and destroyed a few tanks, then took me to meet his mother for tea. He never shot anything in his life :D

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This is a photo of the Stg-44 with a guy who used to be a shopowner. Like a lot of guys he dresses up when he's on duty.
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The FSA is led by a lot of defected SAA officers of all levels, like this guy. Professional, but was unwilling to follow orders and kill his own people when the revolution started. I met a lot of guys like that. Entire units defected at the start of the war.
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Nishgriff,
me too would be smiling with a vintage Stg 44 in my hands (war aside) !
If they'll could know how much Ak's could be obtained selling one Stg here (4-5000 euro legally demil./semiauto only!), I would think they could quit the duty and become all wholesale dealers...

More seriously : as photographer,never tought WHY in some cultures bein' well dressed before the combat has becomed an habit ?
(...bein'my #500post,I'm waitin'for your answer, before the [serious] of mine)
 
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You know, I'm not sure they dress up just for fighting. Some of these guys have no other clothes. I met a guy whose family was killed when their building was shelled. He lost everything. He was doing something else, but after that, picked up a rifle and went to the front line. He wore a collared shirt, slacks, and dress shoes. Some of them, those are the types of clothes they wore before, and they don't have other KINDS of clothes. I think some want to show some pride in appearance, and there are plenty of guys who take the time to gel their hair and shave every day, and wear shirts with the logo of their favorite sports team, just like you or I do on a regular basis. These are just my opinions, I never asked anyone about it.

And while we're here, can anyone ID THIS rifle? Same unit, never saw any of these either.

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Dood,..that FN FAL is in fact an L1A1 SLR. Brit made not FAL.
...that posted by CthulhuAwakens in the picture seems to me the Lithgow-made, (NOT British-made) SLR Aussie...
 
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Nishgriff said:
You know, I'm not sure they dress up just for fighting. Some of these guys have no other clothes. I met a guy whose family was killed when their building was shelled. He lost everything. He was doing something else, but after that, picked up a rifle and went to the front line. He wore a collared shirt, slacks, and dress shoes. Some of them, those are the types of clothes they wore before, and they don't have other KINDS of clothes. I think some want to show some pride in appearance, and there are plenty of guys who take the time to gel their hair and shave every day, and wear shirts with the logo of their favorite sports team, just like you or I do on a regular basis. These are just my opinions, I never asked anyone about it.

I understand that and I agree with your today's "real world" perspective;
my note: ethnic groups belongin' to some real ancient warrior cultures, having the War and (related Death) quite deeply embedded inside their heritage, were once inclined to prepare quite accurately themselves for both, intended as being equipped with their "best" fighting tools (to kill) as with their best garments, knowing the easy happening TO BE killed in battle, bearing & showing their availability to trespass not fighting "only"as warriors,but eventually to die and join their God(s) & their dead companions dressed as well as possible, if nobody could adjust their "look" once dead_
I think the last tiny trace of this could be seen even among our modern "funerlal dress" imposed to some defuncts,seemingly dressed in black tie or alike garments by their family or, in the worst cases, plainly encountered seeing the funny gold plated Ak's between alive's hand, elsewhere_
hoping that my note can be of some interest ,thanks you very much about your patient answer!
by the way...Keep up with your fine work!
 
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It just struck me that you guys that were actual snipers might be able to help me out with a story idea. Do any of you have experience with what Soviet/Russian equipped foreign military powers use for sniper weapons, or what type of/how extensive their training might be? Ie; in syria? I know from what i've seen that they can reach out accurately beyond 1000 meters. I know that as far as tactics go they are more advanced than their rebel enemies in terms of building hides. But I do not know much more. Any insight could be useful. Aleppo in particular is riddled with 'snipers' both real and wannabe, and there have been some sort of sensational stories about 'female snipers in aleppo' and 'rebel snipers'. But there hasn't been anything reality based beyond showing people carrying sniper weapons and using them on the rebel side. Nothing about SAA snipers beyond the fact that they exist and are deadly.
 
Never thought about the plain presence of free-lancers ? (mercs, not photorep's, of course)
In this eventuality could be very difficult to find a real common equipement and training...
 
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Nish,

thank you very much for your work in capturing the events there. It's very enlightening. In reference to the snipers there whether they are trained or wannabes is of little consequence when bullets are flying and people are dying. I wouldn't ask to see anyone's sniping credentials when they obviously don't amount to shit in this instance or any other for that matter. Experience and skill is something you get right after you've done it...lol
 
Nish,

thank you very much for your work in capturing the events there. It's very enlightening. In reference to the snipers there whether they are trained or wannabes is of little consequence when bullets are flying and people are dying. I wouldn't ask to see anyone's sniping credentials when they obviously don't amount to shit in this instance or any other for that matter. Experience and skill is something you get right after you've done it...lol

Killswitch, thanks man. When you hear the rounds cracking over your head, it doesn't matter who fired them. I just stay behind cover and/or concealment. Speaking of concealment, they use veils sewn out of bedsheets to string across streets.

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only once I've readed ,in the '80s ,an interview relased from a Christian Maronite combatant, at the times of the War in Lebanon_
Aside any religious / political side consideration,not here of my interest, this man,self-qualifiedied as "sniper", admitted his "addiction to the scoped rifle" applied even to the civ.passengers running away from the taxi-cab's opened doors_
That, since that, has leaved me ever puzzled about this statement:if true, more apt to to a psycho than to a soldier_
Said that, not having I been there, nor having been I personally involved in it, at today I would remain notwithstanding that ever quite puzzled about "this" kind of (press) reports_
 
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I'm still interested if anyone who was an actual military sniper has some insight into how russian style sniper training might compare to say USMC style sniper training, and some insight as to what rifles and ammo russian-trained or advised snipers might be using. I have a media outlet interested in this as a story if I can flesh it out more. It would be a sort of compare/contrast between the well-trained SAA snipers and the poorly trained FSA snipers. I guarantee the SAA guys are not using SVD's out past 1000 with this level of accuracy... what might they be using?
 
Lmao!!! I'm going to save this video for instruction on what bad follow through and recoil scared looks like. He might as well be using a mortar and getting close cause that's all he's doing with that rifle.
 
Killswitch,
HOW you seemly failed to realize that this archibuge&scope combo was undercoverly issued from their enemies to demotivate irremediably the best guerrilla sniper's, hollowing out their eyesockets ??...
 
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Killswitch,
HOW you seemly failed to realize that this archibuge&scope combo was undercoverly issued from their enemies to demotivate irremediably the best guerrilla sniper's, hollowing out their eyesockets ??...

lol!!! That's sneaky!
 
Back up to the top pictures, what the hell is up with the scope on the sks in the second picture? It looks like it went through a cheese grater.
 
Back up to the top pictures, what the hell is up with the scope on the sks in the second picture? It looks like it went through a cheese grater.

Never saw one before (or since) like that... There is a quad pic rail behind the turret knobs and the objective hood is 'scalloped' instead of petalled like many camera lens hoods. I have no idea what scope it is. The most common ones are Nikula scopes with Soviet Mil reticles.

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This rifle looks like a Romanian FPK/PSL Sniper rifle, which is a knock off of the Russian SVD Dragunov... (you can tell by the X on the magazine and the trigger guard goes right to the magazine without any space like on the SVD. Also the stock attachment "plate" is rather distinctive).
 
I agree with the assessment of Nishgriff that the snipers acting on behalf of the regime are far more effective than the rebel "snipers". One has only to compare the video on Liveleak of the female rebel sniper who clearly doesn't understand in the slightest how to employ or shoot a rifle versus multiple videos of rebels being shot in the head by a single shot after multiple exposures lasting a few seconds.

Further, I don't think the proficient snipers on the regimes side are actually from the SAA. More likely that they are mercenaries hired by the regime or snipers provided by their Russian ally. Is nothing but a war by proxy with the U.S. backing various small rebel units versus the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians backing the regime.
 
Really amazing thread, one of the best I have seen on this forum. It really highlights that no matter what walk of life the struggle over tyranny is ever present and a stark reality.
 
Further, I don't think the proficient snipers on the regimes side are actually from the SAA. More likely that they are mercenaries hired by the regime or snipers provided by their Russian ally. Is nothing but a war by proxy with the U.S. backing various small rebel units versus the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians backing the regime.

There are rumors that there are Russians doing the sniping. As far as I have seen no one has been able to provide any substantiation or evidence of this. It would surprise me if the Russians had anyone actually fighting, though 'advisors' seem legit.
 
The russian sniper is an overplayed scare tactic. Im sure SAA whisper about chechan snipers as well. The same relationship is seen in between israel and its enemies.

From what ive seen neither FSA nor SAA have displayed signs of advanced training or ability.
 
From what ive seen neither FSA nor SAA have displayed signs of advanced training or ability.

Google: Syrian snipers. Click on links for the FSA as well as the SAA. Report back with what you see regarding TTPs and effectiveness.

I have seen several instances of FSA "snipers" having cobbled together equipment with very unsound employment and zero effect on target. Take this woman for instance who was touted to great fanfare as a female FSA sniper:

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Look at her eye relief; the poor quality of the scope with damaged turrets, comically jacked up rings, a jacked up base putting the scope about an inch higher than it needs to be; jacked up eye relief; left eye closed; weak cheek to stock weld in the wrong place; horribly unstable position; and a litany of other issues I won't waste my time with. The videos of her taking shots only add to the list of problems.

On the other hand while I have not seen video of the SAA snipers you can guarantee they have at least mil-spec equipment and training. I have worked with enough Middle Eastern militaries to tell you that their mil spec is often better than our own. I have also seen at least 3 videos of FSA fighters being shot in the head with only one enemy shot being fired. Granted the ranges are obviously close based off the lack of time elapsed between the hit and the report of the rifle, but it does show that the snipers are able to avoid detection at close ranges while taking shots.
 
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On the other hand while I have not seen video of the SAA snipers you can guarantee they have at least mil-spec equipment and training. I have worked with enough Middle Eastern militaries to tell you that their mil spec is often better than our own. I have also seen at least 3 videos of FSA fighters being shot in the head with only one enemy shot being fired. Granted the ranges are obviously close based off the lack of time elapsed between the hit and the report of the rifle, but it does show that the snipers are able to avoid detection at close ranges while taking shots.

Whether Russians are with them or not, I agree with McCrazy, SAA snipers are well-trained, well-equipped, and deadly effective beyond 1000 meters. FSA has no effective counter-ability, even if they get weapons. I HAVE met Chechens at the line. I am not allowed to photograph them, and I would not dare try to sneak a shot; I have never been so scared of another person before. Foreign fighters are a subject I steer well clear of. Multiple western journalists and photographers are detained now for pushing in the wrong places. I rather prefer my freedom.

Here's a gratuitous shot of some domestic front line guys, just regular syrians. And a more effective FSA response :D

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