HS precision police or Bell and Carlson

[cookie91/38]

Hey guys,

Looking for a new stock to drop my sps tactical into. Which is a better idea, a HS precision police, or a bell and carlson medalist? Or are they about even? The HS precision is about 100 more from brownells.

Thanks, Evan

 

[Sonic Crack]

I'd get the HS, but I'm no fan of BC

 

[black max]

Hs all the way! I have one listed in the options and accessories section... Even if you don't buy mine they are better than a BC

 

[RobertB]

H-S No Doubt. Guys like the B&C and they probably are GTG but the ones I got behind just didn't feel good to me. With that being said that's a personal preference but H-S is a good product.

Good Luck!

 

[diderr]

HS fer shure

 

[roggom]

You can find the HS take-off stocks from $175-$250 here on the hide (5r, LTR, Police take-offs), just scour the sale threads every day and they pop up quite often. There are guys selling and buying the same stocks for over $300, but its a free market.

I have had both the B&C M40 and the HS LTR take-off on my SPS Tac and the HS handles and shoulders better. The HS LTR is shorter and proportionate for the 20" bbl of the SPS-tac

Now if you can spend a bit more money, the McMillan HTG is down right perfect in weight and balance for the SPS-Tac, just my .02

 

[cookie91/38]

You can find the HS take-off stocks from $175-$250 here on the hide (5r, LTR, Police take-offs), just scour the sale threads every day and they pop up quite often. There are guys selling and buying the same stocks for over $300, but its a free market.

I have had both the B&C M40 and the HS LTR take-off on my SPS Tac and the HS handles and shoulders better. The HS LTR is shorter and proportionate for the 20" bbl of the SPS-tac

Now if you can spend a bit more money, the McMillan HTG is down right perfect in weight and balance for the SPS-Tac, just my .02

Would I need to bed the McMillan? I like the camo choices on that alot and I know mcmillans are better.

 

[black max]

Would I need to bed the McMillan? I like the camo choices on that alot and I know mcmillans are better.

Yes, the McMillan would need to be bedded. Only stocks with a chassis system don't need to be bedded, and some would even argue that.

 

[cookie91/38]

Yes, the McMillan would need to be bedded. Only stocks with a chassis system don't need to be bedded, and some would even argue that.

The one I'm looking at comes pillar bedded. Should I still glass bed the recoil lug area?

 

[SporterII]

You can find the HS take-off stocks from $175-$250 here on the hide (5r, LTR, Police take-offs), just scour the sale threads every day and they pop up quite often. There are guys selling and buying the same stocks for over $300, but its a free market.

I have had both the B&C M40 and the HS LTR take-off on my SPS Tac and the HS handles and shoulders better. The HS LTR is shorter and proportionate for the 20" bbl of the SPS-tac

Now if you can spend a bit more money, the McMillan HTG is down right perfect in weight and balance for the SPS-Tac, just my .02

The M-40 has a 1/2" longer LOP than the HS. Comb design way different. " Shoulders better" is dependent on your build. Both high quality.

 

[black max]

The one I'm looking at comes pillar bedded. Should I still glass bed the recoil lug area?

Yes, and in theory the thing should be redone.

 

[cookie91/38]

Yes, and in theory the thing should be redone.

Who does a good bedding job I could send it to?

 

[black max]

Who does a good bedding job I could send it to?

Mark Gordon from short action customs does some great work. He built a friend of mines rifle, and it is of superb quality! Chad Dixon from long rifles inc has a good reputation for a+ work as well.

 

[cookie91/38]

Mark Gordon from short action customs does some great work. He built a friend of mines rifle, and it is of superb quality! Chad Dixon from long rifles inc has a good reputation for a+ work as well.

Thanks a lot for all your help!

 

[SporterII]

Need to be bedded is the question, no is the answer. McMillan specify it not be necessary. Bedding block stocks do not necessarily need bedding either.
You can assemble your stock to the rifle and see how it goes. Adjust from there.
I was shooting this morning with a HS stocked 223 at 200. Nice one inch groups from a bipod, thru my chrono [3020fps]. Had two out today. Other was a bedded long throat version of the same rifle. Same performance with a slight edge to the latter, 75 amax cannot be discounted though.
Fiberglass with pillars [Mcm] will surely benefit most from bedding. CNC work on the Al. bedding blocks seems to do well mostly. My experience-

Sonic, If you have ever dropped a rifle into a Bell Carlson M-4O bedding block stock, you might change your prejudice.

Cookie, re read the fourth sentence.

 

[cookie91/38]

Need to be bedded is the question, no is the answer. McMillan specify it not be necessary. Bedding block stocks do not necessarily need bedding either.
You can assemble your stock to the rifle and see how it goes. Adjust from there.
I was shooting this morning with a HS stocked 223 at 200. Nice one inch groups from a bipod, thru my chrono [3020fps]. Had two out today. Other was a bedded long throat version of the same rifle. Same performance with a slight edge to the latter, 75 amax cannot be discounted though.
Fiberglass with pillars [Mcm] will surely benefit most from bedding. CNC work on the Al. bedding blocks seems to do well mostly. My experience-

Sonic, If you have ever dropped a rifle into a Bell Carlson M-4O bedding block stock, you might change your prejudice.

Cookie, re read the fourth sentence.

Thanks a lot Sporter. I really like the HTG after looking at it more. The website says it comes pillar bedded. Who did the bedding? The website, or McMillan?

 

[SporterII]

Cookie, I am not sure what you asked.
IF new, McM. can be ordered with pillars installed and you can typically drop in your barreled action, watching for screw engagement and minor fitment. Have it bedded by someone that does this is sometimes better than a 'smith, as wait may differ. Alex Sitman for one. Good guy. If you like the HTG, You may also like the T. I have a TA at the smith right now for a short action 700. I like it a lot save the crummy melted jelly bean texture for grip. Nicely made stock with shape I like and you could find one or order one with their Mini Chassis. That is expensive but bedding is a commitment. McM A1-3, with pillars, cups and desert camo, the list goes on.
Make sure what ever you decide to buy, it fits and works for you before you do any bedding.

 

[cookie91/38]

Sporter, sorry to confuse. You answered my question though. I am going to buy the HTG with pre installed pillars, drop in my action and see how it shoots. Thanks again, Evan

 

[SporterII]

Their inlet work is nice. You will be fine.