317. I'm in this crowd of not knowing what the hell is going on with the trust process.
Does this particular trust allow for specifics such as ownership upon death and individuals allowed to utilize the NFA item? The request seems simple in nature but I'm no lawyer and I've never pursued a trust.
OP sounds an awful lot like he's got something to gain from this, but I could be wrong, I don't know him personally.
Dude, go to a lawyer. I fucking hate 'em too, but it's worth it here. Faulty trusts will still get you a can or SBR but if it ever gets called into question then you get to go into court and explain why you illegally transferred x number of NFA items. Yes, it has happened. Forget that ATF signed off on it, the onus is on us.
IF it was that goddamn simple, all you'd have to do then is take, say, my trust and change the sentence structure enough so it's doesn't meet intellectual property standards yet is essentially the same thing. It only has three signed pages, one of which is notarized, so any kid could plagiarize one. Wanna look at mine? All you need to be is confident in your English abilities like the unknown guy that plagiarized the "original" you fill in online, because if he went to law school he'd be charging $$$ and not for free online where he gets pennies for net traffic and ads.
I've heard of these DIY trusts coming into question so just beware is all I'm saying I have no dog in the fight and I'm not a betting man either. $500 for the one I have considering the x number of tax stamps I've had to buy makes it a non-sequitur. If you can't afford the trust, perhaps NFA shit isn't for you, it isn't for everyone honestly. You do know cans are about a grand plus just pissing away another few hundred to the govt. and to other fees and taxes, right?
Also, with the new law, the only thing the trust does is allow you to have multiple parties to have access to them without you being there. I got mine "back in the day" when a trust was easier than a 4473 and was definitely worth it. Don't know about you, but my shit doesn't leave my sight trust or not unless my wife has it (she's bought her own stuff with it). So we can share NFA items. Unless you have a need for true sharing, she has a can at x location and you have an SBR at y location, a trust won't do much anymore. When you die, all your shit will be divided up anyway and family will get dibs usually. When you die, the beneficiary has to deal with ATF his or herself and they generally do one transfer to that person of all your NFA shit provided they pass the test for a discount. Which will happen with the trust when the last trustee dies anyway. And at the end of the day, do you really care what happens to your shit as long as your immediate gets it when you die? Good luck whichever way you go.
