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    #1
    Saw I see this YouTube BS with their new policy,

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    Good thing I subscribed to my own video platform, if this happens I can transition all my videos 100% to be hosted on here by me
     
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    Wow. Sad. Wonder how they reconcile that with some of the vile crap they allow on there.
    Probably a pretty fair business opportunity here for a 2nd Amendment friendly platform.
    Good for you Frank for anticipating something like this and preparing your own host.
     
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    Wow. I suppose this is what happens when the ability to access intellectual property as video becomes a monopoly situation with a biased gatekeeper. I suppose we need to decentralize and go a bit underground, anyways, since it's becoming obvious that we are radar blips, each and every one of us.
     
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    I couldn't help but attempt to calculate the amount of time per word their lawyers spent researching what, for example, a DIAS is. That notice probably cost them 50k.
     
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    ^^^ There was a Supreme Court case called Cubby v. Compuserve... that laid out the premise that if an online service (aka social media site) is simply a conduit, then it is like a library. Exempt from issues related to content-providing, libel, etc. The independent system operators, who ran each forum were responsible for their areas. They owned their content... depending on how they regulated. But the online service was simply a conduit.

    In the new era, the 'online service' has its thumb on the scale. It tips the balance. It condemns or highlights content. The FIRST TIME a service plays a role in regulating content... according to Cubby, they are a content provider. Subject to regulation and to FCC laws... and lots of other things.

    I don't know what has happened to that precedent. Or if anyone even remembers it. But in the mid-1990's, as the Internet was just starting to take off, it was Writ-In-Stone for how a service provider needed to treat content. By never, ever, touching it.

    Any lawyers out there who want to chime in on the current state? Or are we on SH... a group that lawyers know to steer clear of?

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
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    I get asked all the time why I have so very few gun videos on YouTube, but yet I shoot all the time. I knew that YouTube was becoming anti-gun after Google bought them out and I've had my YouTube channel since 2006 and have lots of important videos on my channel that aren't available to the public. I'm not about to lose my channel and it's content!
     
    #21
    IMO: Classifying firearms and reloading as deviant, by commingling them with pornography, is not a net positive for the advancement of the 2nd Amendment.

    If we're going to cultivate the next generation of marksmen, and start them young, we need content providers that are appropriate for the task.
     
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    Maser said:
    I get asked all the time why I have so very few gun videos on YouTube, but yet I shoot all the time. I knew that YouTube was becoming anti-gun after Google bought them out and I've had my YouTube channel since 2006 and have lots of important videos on my channel that aren't available to the public. I'm not about to lose my channel and it's content!
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    Why do you want to continue supporting their advertising revenues with any of your content? It is clear where they stand and unless you are OK with that it's time to move.
     
    #26
    going to porn sites is the wrong direction. That is going into the shadows not into the light. I am not ashamed that I own, shoot, hell love guns. Not ashamed I hit a porn site every few months either but. Porn sites will turn a lot of people off. It would be cool if the NRA would host, but even then that could be a mess. I know guys that will not go to NRA.com or NRATV because they feel once they do they are now "on a list" (even though FaceBook is obviously the issue with personal privacy)

    On another note. Anyone else use ClipGrab to down load youtube videos? I have a couple time but it looks like it might be time to start my personal Archives. Memory is cheap these days. Oh and fuck the cloud, Youtube is effectively the "cloud" for videos. I want a hard copy, I have read Fahrenheit 451.
     
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    2ndamendfan said:
    going to porn sites is the wrong direction. That is going into the shadows not into the light. I am not ashamed that I own, shoot, hell love guns. Not ashamed I hit a porn site every few months either but. Porn sites will turn a lot of people off. It would be cool if the NRA would host, but even then that could be a mess. I know guys that will not go to NRA.com or NRATV because they feel once they do they are now "on a list" (even though FaceBook is obviously the issue with personal privacy)

    On another note. Anyone else use ClipGrab to down load youtube videos? I have a couple time but it looks like it might be time to start my personally Archives. Memory is cheap these days. Oh and fuck the cloud, Youtube is effectively the "cloud" for videos. I want a hard copy, I have read Fahrenheit 451.
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    i use mp4 downloader.
     
    #31
    Yeah I'd hate to move into the shadows, maybe it would be worth adding a video forum to the site. I think there are plenty of good channels that would benefit from a hassle free environment. Im sure It would also bring some guys into the long range world as well, although I'm not sure that would be so good as far as bringing in that crappy facebook crowed we all love.... That being said I'm thinking of ditching YouTube and Facebook all together too much waisted time and I have enough advertising in my life.
     
    #38
    1J04 said:
    https://www.full30.com/video/ddc097bc3fe2d9480d9541a296488c52

    Here's a vid that Full30 made regarding the YT fiasco.
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    Watched the first 3 minutes. I am in a place that is loud and can't hear real well on my phone so I will watch the rest later. But he makes a statement.

    "750 videos approx 10 minutes long. It would take a year to watch them all". And there is the issue. Youtube can not pre-watch every video. There is no way. What has happened is that snowflakes on a vengeance have then claimed they are offended. Youtube then bans the video based on someone's feelings. I am not sure anyone even watches it. The owner of the video then appeals and because there is no standard it is unbanned. Now that there are standards the videos will not become unbanned.
    I think this is called "letting the fox run the hen house".

    It is now time to go and flag en masse all videos that offend us. Lets play ball.
     
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    CMH said:
    Yup. No denying it's "Something."
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    I appreciate your "quote". It shows you care, but I can tell you that nobody, even God, cares more than I do because I also hope you hit the lottery, twice, this week and never miss your intended target shooting for the rest of your glorious life. God won't do that for you, but I will. If I had 10,000 lbs or Varget I'd give it all to you, then run to a friends house and steal whatever he has left and send that as well. COD of course. :love:
     
    #41
    A larger issue is the deplatforming of any Right position, including funding sources like banks, PayPal, and crowdfunding apps like Patreon.

    Like the Full30 guy says, if everyone donated a buck he could build a fully functional video platform for $150k. Great idea.

    An even better idea would be for smart people to build our own alternative platforms that support free speech and welcome us.

    Why some conservative rich guys haven't bought some large media outlets is beyond me? FOX is the highest rated cable network and yet they are totally cucked and milquetoast. If somebody did a major network that was further Right of those wimps I bet it would crush the competition. Purely as a business play, it seems like a no-brainer.
     
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    That is pretty non-standard 1j behavior. As of late yesterday, I got a pretty well-grounded PM from him. Maybe he got dosed with something at the jail?

    1j,. you might want to get that looked at!
     
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