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“We’re done being civil” — say the people who have never been civil

diverdon

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    An excellent article:

    Leftists have the self-awareness of a sea sponge. In order to justify their never-ending quest to disrupt, harass, and “resist,” they claim that they tried being civil but now they’re done! Done, I tell you!

    done-being-civil.jpg


    Really?


    When has the Left ever been civil?


    Was I asleep for that fleeting nano-second?


    Was it when they burned Ferguson, Missouri to the ground?


    Or Baltimore? Minneapolis? Charlotte?


    How about when SEIU union thugs attacked peaceful Tea Party rally-goers? Was that their idea of civil?


    And when the press and Democrat politicians (including Obama) mocked us and called us “teabaggers?” How civil was that?


    Was it out of civility that some MoveOn.org goon bit off a guy’s finger for opposing Obamacare?


    And all those attacks on Trump supporters during the 2016 election? Was that the time when you guys were practicing “civility?”


    Oh, wait. I know!


    It was at President Trump’s inauguration, right?


    Your civility was on display when you hurled trashcans through windows and set fire to a limousine owned by a legal immigrant.


    Blocking cars, throwing eggs, hitting folks with bike locks, spitting on them, pepper-spraying them – that, according to the Left, must’ve been their foray into “civility.”


    Silly me.


    The last two years have been one non-stop violent freak-out by people who now claim that, though they don’t want to, they must stop being civil.
     
    They are doing a good job of turning the US into a 3rd world country. Never thought I'd see scenes like Baltimore riots, Berkley, etc. in this country.
    Maxine Waters is outwardly inciting violence and what's the punishment?

    Very disappointing what the education system and government has nurtured.

    For some reason I don't think these people would fair well in a Civil War.
     
    What do they carry in the backpacks ? Hummus, particulate masks bandanna water.
     
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    Not in my day.
    Civil war is inevitable. Let's get it over with so my kids don't have to kill anyone. It should be short.


    We will see. It may not be as peachy as you make it out to be. Trust me, you don’t want to see civil war. If you’ve ever seen a country ripped apart by such a tragedy then that is the last thing you hope for. So, in a sense I share your let’s get this on attitude but on the other hand, I worry about the outcome of such a situation. One thing I can agree on for sure is that if it’s going to happen let it happen when I am able and so that my kids don’t have to be a part of it.
     
    We will see. It may not be as peachy as you make it out to be. Trust me, you don’t want to see civil war. If you’ve ever seen a country ripped apart by such a tragedy then that is the last thing you hope for. So, in a sense I share your let’s get this on attitude but on the other hand, I worry about the outcome of such a situation. One thing I can agree on for sure is that if it’s going to happen let it happen when I am able and so that my kids don’t have to be a part of it.
    Unless you live hours away from one of the Libtardian Utopias ( cities ) your family will be subject to this shit . Better be fully aware of what's to come . Think Pits full of Bosnian corpses , attacks on women and children at food distribution centers .
    Murdering innocents at refugee centers . Torture of man , women and child .
    This is what war is . Men will leave to fight combatants only to teturn to see that their self proclaimed morally superior adversary has slaughtered their family .
    Set n get your mindset right . Game on ? This aint no game . The truly moral and rightgeous God fearing Warriors of the Silent Majority that will be forced into this action by juvenile , selfish , self absorbed clueles morons will pay a greater price than their adversary . We have jobs , families , rightgeous aspirations for family , Country and neighbor . We have the most to lose . The left is full of young , earned nothing have nothings or thug politicians who have looted their way to success.
    Since none is theirs they have nothing to lose.
    I am notcalling for restraint . I am telling you to prepare your mind and soul for pain and evil . You have no control of the Evil visited you . You can control your choice to shrivel and allow it to win or stand and fight .
     
    Unless you live hours away from one of the Libtardian Utopias ( cities ) your family will be subject to this shit . Better be fully aware of what's to come . Think Pits full of Bosnian corpses , attacks on women and children at food distribution centers .
    Murdering innocents at refugee centers . Torture of man , women and child .
    This is what war is . Men will leave to fight combatants only to teturn to see that their self proclaimed morally superior adversary has slaughtered their family .
    Set n get your mindset right . Game on ? This aint no game . The truly moral and rightgeous God fearing Warriors of the Silent Majority that will be forced into this action by juvenile , selfish , self absorbed clueles morons will pay a greater price than their adversary . We have jobs , families , rightgeous aspirations for family , Country and neighbor . We have the most to lose . The left is full of young , earned nothing have nothings or thug politicians who have looted their way to success.
    Since none is theirs they have nothing to lose.
    I am notcalling for restraint . I am telling you to prepare your mind and soul for pain and evil . You have no control of the Evil visited you . You can control your choice to shrivel and allow it to win or stand and fight .

    I live an hour to hour and a half from any major city and I’m not sure I’d call it major compared to some place like Boston or something lol. I think you misunderstand me a bit tho. I am restrained, compassionate and have love for my fellow man that is for sure. However, I’m not one to tango with either. If they bring it to my doorstep I hope they are prepared for what they face. There will be no holding back. I have an extremely aggressive nature that I keep suppressed. I’ve even had people tell me that my eyes change to pure black when I get pissed off enough. I’ve heard that from a huge number of people. I don’t know if that is true, but I do know that I can go from the most docile animal to the most dangerous thing you have ever seen in the blink of an eye. If your smart, don’t blink and certainly don’t cross me. I’ll be the greatest guy you ever me when treated like a human, help you, give you the shirt off my back and so on, but try and cross me and come after me, you will see the beast unleashed.
     
    Not many power/peaking plants in large city's. So when the power fails, an trucks stop resupplying the large shit holes we'll see how brave they are after 72 hrs. Most think the belt ways/bypass's around city's are for traffic control, wrong it's a clear field of fire to keep the city trash from getting out during times like these.
     
    Seems like even some on the left recognize that pliers and blowtorches are just ghey...

    But some (with credentials like NYT on their resume's) are calling for resumption of bombings...

    http://www.wnd.com/2018/06/up-next-1970s-style-bombings-warns-progressive/

    Of course, when you have people like Bill Ayers teaching this generation... and running a shadow Progressive Army from his teaching post... this is what to expect. Slinking mad bombers who want to blow up people... because that will get us all voting Socialist, I guess.

    The good news is that it's a lot harder to do now than it was in the '70s. That is... and get away with it more than once. The bad news is that they have a lot more tool at their disposal.

    Sparks anyone?

    Sirhr
     
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    Those bombs in the 70's did not create change it only served to lose them any public support they had.

    The new question will not be what was first, chicken or egg. It will be what happens first Civil War or Justice?
     
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    I I’ve even had people tell me that my eyes change to pure black when I get pissed off enough. I’ve heard that from a huge number of people.

    Interesting, Ive been told something similar; that when I get really into a rage, and it can happen in a spit second, that black clouds form around my head. I haven seen it but more than one has told me that. thats why Im mostly a loner and spend most of my time alone.

    I do know that I really dont like the feeling when that happens. Its like death walking.
     
    You left out retribution, which gets many around here's vote.

    No retribution...that comes from hate and we cannot afford that...let it eat them up. Let us focus our attention on Justice, and creating something better.

    Patrick Henry Maggot.
     
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    So an interesting philosophical question arises...

    If people had paid attention to John Brown when he first hacked the heads off of some pro-slavery men... and before Harpers Ferry (which was the spark that got the Southern Militias worked up), the slavery question might have had a soft landing. Neutralize John Brown, possibly avoid Civil War.

    If people had taken Hitler seriously when he outlined his plans in Mein Kampf... he could have been neutralized. It might have saved our ancestors a lot of trouble.

    If the Shah had listened to the Ayotollah Khomemeni's B.S. from Paris in the 1970's and gotten rid if him... there likely would not have been a spark that has put the mid-East in (even more) turmoil for decades.

    If, in dozens of cases, we had incarcerated potential mass-shooters when they gave every indication that they were going to be mass shooters... would we have avoided many of them?

    It's an interesting historical question, always, because revisionist or 'possible' histories are fraught with peril. Some argue that different sparks or different tyrants would have arisen. Others say that 20/20 hindsight is all well and good... but that identifying people before they commit their heinous atrocities is very difficult if not impossible. And that you can't be sure that they would have 'done' what they say they are going to do.

    That said, we are a nation of laws. And we have laws against things like inciting and conspiracy to commit bad acts... When does the justice system take seriously the babblings of someone on Interwebs... and elevate it to the level of actions worthy of incarceration or other action (with due process, of course!)

    Seems to me that a lot of these people... are walking a fine line right now. And though I am not a legal scholar, the question does come up! If a columnist calls for bombings... are they reaching the level at which they are actually fomenting the actions? If a Congresswoman calls for stalking and harrassment, is she crossing a bright line, legally. Certainly one can argue she crossed one morally and ethically, but when does the legal system kick in?

    Or does it? Do we get back to the idea that there is one legal system for "Well-meaning progressives" but if someone who owns a MAGA hat says a word, they are instantly charged with intent or similar.

    Wars of words are fine. Everyone gets butthurt... who cares. Real wars are nasty. Civil wars, especially in the modern era, are worse. See the above poster describing killing fields, pits full of the dead and limbs chopped off. And especially in 21st Century America, we don't have a Mason/Dixon line to divide secession states from Union States. Every town, every city, every street and every neighborhood would potentially be a little ethnic-cleansing of its own... with the word ethnic replaced largely by the word "political."

    Everyone is jumping up and down predicting a Civil War. Everyone is saying 'there will be a spark.' I'll argue that we are watching idiots lighting campfires in a dry prairie every single day. On Twitter, Facebook, Forums, CNN...

    Do we need the modern equivalent of Smokey the Bear to come along and stamp this out? Is it even possible in a nation where speech is protected to such a degree that even speech designed to limit speech... is protected?

    I believe we have the tools and due process to handle it... to create a soft landing. But, damn, it's hard to stay optimistic!

    In reflection,

    Sirhr
     
    So an interesting philosophical question arises...

    If people had paid attention to John Brown when he first hacked the heads off of some pro-slavery men... and before Harpers Ferry (which was the spark that got the Southern Militias worked up), the slavery question might have had a soft landing. Neutralize John Brown, possibly avoid Civil War.

    If people had taken Hitler seriously when he outlined his plans in Mein Kampf... he could have been neutralized. It might have saved our ancestors a lot of trouble.

    If the Shah had listened to the Ayotollah Khomemeni's B.S. from Paris in the 1970's and gotten rid if him... there likely would not have been a spark that has put the mid-East in (even more) turmoil for decades.

    If, in dozens of cases, we had incarcerated potential mass-shooters when they gave every indication that they were going to be mass shooters... would we have avoided many of them?

    It's an interesting historical question, always, because revisionist or 'possible' histories are fraught with peril. Some argue that different sparks or different tyrants would have arisen. Others say that 20/20 hindsight is all well and good... but that identifying people before they commit their heinous atrocities is very difficult if not impossible. And that you can't be sure that they would have 'done' what they say they are going to do.

    That said, we are a nation of laws. And we have laws against things like inciting and conspiracy to commit bad acts... When does the justice system take seriously the babblings of someone on Interwebs... and elevate it to the level of actions worthy of incarceration or other action (with due process, of course!)

    Seems to me that a lot of these people... are walking a fine line right now. And though I am not a legal scholar, the question does come up! If a columnist calls for bombings... are they reaching the level at which they are actually fomenting the actions? If a Congresswoman calls for stalking and harrassment, is she crossing a bright line, legally. Certainly one can argue she crossed one morally and ethically, but when does the legal system kick in?

    Or does it? Do we get back to the idea that there is one legal system for "Well-meaning progressives" but if someone who owns a MAGA hat says a word, they are instantly charged with intent or similar.

    Wars of words are fine. Everyone gets butthurt... who cares. Real wars are nasty. Civil wars, especially in the modern era, are worse. See the above poster describing killing fields, pits full of the dead and limbs chopped off. And especially in 21st Century America, we don't have a Mason/Dixon line to divide secession states from Union States. Every town, every city, every street and every neighborhood would potentially be a little ethnic-cleansing of its own... with the word ethnic replaced largely by the word "political."

    Everyone is jumping up and down predicting a Civil War. Everyone is saying 'there will be a spark.' I'll argue that we are watching idiots lighting campfires in a dry prairie every single day. On Twitter, Facebook, Forums, CNN...

    Do we need the modern equivalent of Smokey the Bear to come along and stamp this out? Is it even possible in a nation where speech is protected to such a degree that even speech designed to limit speech... is protected?

    I believe we have the tools and due process to handle it... to create a soft landing. But, damn, it's hard to stay optimistic!

    In reflection,

    Sirhr
    Im not so sure about Maxine Waters. Shes not (quite) as stupid as she looks and acts and is walking a fine line. As to anyone calling for bombings, that is, in my mind, clearly inciting to kill, and should be stepped on immediately and with extreme prejudice.
     
    A real threat or empty drivel, I say, this is no time to discount your adversaries. Be on the lookout, head on a swivel. There will be a time that this will become uncivilized, so be it. If it's necessary, then lets get it on. No time like the present.
     
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    Maxine is in office because in her district it's likely her cousins, aunts and uncles counting the votes.
     
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    No retribution...that comes from hate and we cannot afford that...let it eat them up. Let us focus our attention on Justice, and creating something better.

    Patrick Henry Maggot.
    Bullshit! It does not come from hate, it comes from a life of being lied to, fucked over by those who where not up to the task but got the job or rank based upon quotas. Being made a slave to feed those who were too lazy to work for food, a slave to house those too lazy to work for a home. a slave to those who thought they had a right to what I earned all my life! The FSA movement will die off in whats coming an for me it won't come soon enough. I'm tired of the lying BS that has allowed this country to get where it is, with fucks who think it's all a free ride.
    RETRIBUTION is coming as there are millions of those just like me who have had enough!
     
    Seems like even some on the left recognize that pliers and blowtorches are just ghey...

    But some (with credentials like NYT on their resume's) are calling for resumption of bombings...

    http://www.wnd.com/2018/06/up-next-1970s-style-bombings-warns-progressive/

    Of course, when you have people like Bill Ayers teaching this generation... and running a shadow Progressive Army from his teaching post... this is what to expect. Slinking mad bombers who want to blow up people... because that will get us all voting Socialist, I guess.

    The good news is that it's a lot harder to do now than it was in the '70s. That is... and get away with it more than once. The bad news is that they have a lot more tool at their disposal.

    Sparks anyone?

    Sirhr
    you have people on the left threatening violence daily, and now are looking into terrorist bombings.........and yet us trump supporters are the "deplorables".......


    if were so "deplorable"....maybe its time we started acting like it.


    also, this is the guy calling for bombings.......apparently he fancies himself a vigilante of sorts....
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    i dunno why hes even bothering with the bombings......he could just bash us all with his massive fucking head and itll be more effective
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    I am amazed by the number of well thought people on this board and it is refreshing to see. That being said we all have to be aware of what the aggressive progressives are saying and what happened in the run offs last night. Now is not the time to get angry because that can cloud judgement, rather we all need to be fully aware of what is happening around us and start preparing just in case things start to escalate.

    I also think we have to accept that the democrats/progressives are not going to be held accountable for what they say. As long as mentally bereft genetic defects like Maxine Waters can incite their sheep behind the safety of their office they will. That is not going to change any time soon. The antithesis of that is true for conservatives, utter one comment that might be construed as being within a mile of a threat and you will be arrested or investigated. That is the world we live in. The moral of that story is do not talk about it, just do it.

    The funny part of the progressive children that are rattling their imaginary sabres in the name of anger is because of the lost election. People that want their independence, rights and religious freedom have been losing their rights for a lot longer and should be much angrier. The difference between the two groups is that conservatives realize the cost of that anger while liberals typically do not. All of us have been punched in the face, probably more than once, for a series of reasons and remember what it felt like. I doubt many of these angry little progressive children can say they have ever been in a fight so they have no idea of what can happen.
     
    Everyone is jumping up and down predicting a Civil War. Everyone is saying 'there will be a spark.' I'll argue that we are watching idiots lighting campfires in a dry prairie every single day. On Twitter, Facebook, Forums, CNN...

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    This is a book worthy quote. What good has come from social media or activist media?
    These people are so unaware it defies belief. I've found your psychopaths, and they inhabit the left.
     
    Honestly, I couldn't hold them in any more contempt or be less afraid of them. To me they're a bunch of ass clown children who are poking a hibernating Kodiak.

    That was my point...they think the hibernating kodiak will keep sleeping. Bears wake up very hungry after hibernating though.
     
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    San Francisco business owner.
    CEO of Shen an online gaming thing and owner of Blue Dog Constuction.

    Thanks. "Blue Dog," as in Blue Dog Democrat, no doubt.

    My internet has been in and out all morning, and every time I tried to google him it wouldn't return results.
     
    Wrong guy the one you're looking for is a fascist communist philosophy Professor out of Berkeley. Never worked a day of construction in his life. Cheers

    I was wrong... I was thinking about Anthony James Gregor... Anthony... not Andrew. This guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._James_Gregor

    Andrew James Gregor... not sure who he is. But construction company owner sounds good! Sorry!

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
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    Remember, we're talking about a segment of the population that is too lazy to work for what they want. That type of person will certainly be too lazy to fight for it. And if they did muster some semblance of courage, how fast do you think these kids are going to run to the shelter of their parent's basement the first time they see their buddy do a backflip after getting hit by a 50 round that came seemingly out of the clear blue sky.

    Take the dork in the batman mask trying to incite bombings for example. Very brave. If he had any balls he'd do it himself. He's like the jihadi recruiter fitting somebody else with a vest. "No, no, akmed, you wear this vest. Allah wants me to be a force multliplier." Straight pussy.

    The university pinkos? The don't come down out of the ivory tower to wallow in the mud and blood with us. They live their lives in a fantasy world. I know many of them personally.

    I find it hard to believe that if the lead started flying that the armed forces would choose a side, and if they did I find it harder to believe that it wouldn't be our side. That would be the major factor that decided whether an armed conflict between opposed ideologies would be a protracted affair killing millions or a flash in the pan killing only most of them.
     
    The difference is I think one side is prepared to die for what they believe. The other is not. Fighting for life is not the same as throwing rocks at the police who generally don’t fight back.
     
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    The problem is the larger population of the FSA which grows in percentage every year, will be demanding the corrupt politicians to clamp down on the freedom loving decent people and then of course the politicians will demand the police and such do their bidding. So far the police have never had a problem stomping on conservatives at the behest of liberal politicians.... Just like the police in CA and NY have no problem nailing freedom loving gun owners to the wall while also letting criminals that happen to be illegally in this country walk free...
     
    Just to be clear: Voilence is never preferred and always a last resort. Some of these comments may be putting Frank on some lists.
     
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