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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/17/2015 Last edited 08/17/2015 by Dogsniper
Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range
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Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.
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Aimsmall55XFirst Sergeant
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/17/2015
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Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range
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--- Aimsmall55 wrote:
Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.
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As far as accuracy goes with a 26 inch barrel, I have always gotten better accuracy from reloader 22. Say I get a .3 inch group with reloader 22 hour usually get a .5 inch group with H 1000. However, in my 30 inch Broughton 5C barrel ,pushing the 215 Berger with H1000 and the 230 Berger with Retumbo gives me AWESOME speed and accuracy. But it seems like Retumbo will shoot the 208 AMAX 215 and 230 just as good as H 1000.
For instance, I'm running 80 Grains of Retumbo with the 208 at 3.620 inches (AI mag length) at 3,045 fps out of my Broughton and it's VERY ACCURATE.
With a 28" bbl H1000 will probably be the best in terms of getting the most of "powder burnt ". I've been able to push the 215 at 3,045 fps with H1000 ! 10.2 mils to 1330 yards. But if H1000 won't do it, there is a member on here with a 28 or 29" Bartlein that's getting EXCELLENT speed and accuracy out of IMR4831. You may want to just pick up a pound at a time... H1000, imr7828ssc, Retumbo , Imr4831, and even power pro 4000mr. The 4000 mr was pushing the 208 AMAX out of my 5R at over 3,000 fps. It's a powder that will push the 200's to 215's with GREAT SPEED AND ACCURACY.
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DogsniperXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/18/2015
Thanks for the reply . I have h1000 and rl22 I'll test those and see what I get. If it int what I want I'll buy a pound here and ther of the others you mentioned. Thanks
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--- Dogsniper wrote:
Which do you like best for accuracy and temp non sensitivity . Retumbo, h1000' or rl22 ?
I have a 28" Krueger I tried h4831 velocity with 208 amax was in the 2800 range
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--- Aimsmall55 wrote:
Remington 700 SS5R 26" bbl. 208 AMAX , 72.5 reloader22. Fgm215m.
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As far as accuracy goes with a 26 inch barrel, I have always gotten better accuracy from reloader 22. Say I get a .3 inch group with reloader 22 hour usually get a .5 inch group with H 1000. However, in my 30 inch Broughton 5C barrel ,pushing the 215 Berger with H1000 and the 230 Berger with Retumbo gives me AWESOME speed and accuracy. But it seems like Retumbo will shoot the 208 AMAX 215 and 230 just as good as H 1000.
For instance, I'm running 80 Grains of Retumbo with the 208 at 3.620 inches (AI mag length) at 3,045 fps out of my Broughton and it's VERY ACCURATE.
With a 28" bbl H1000 will probably be the best in terms of getting the most of "powder burnt ". I've been able to push the 215 at 3,045 fps with H1000 ! 10.2 mils to 1330 yards. But if H1000 won't do it, there is a member on here with a 28 or 29" Bartlein that's getting EXCELLENT speed and accuracy out of IMR4831. You may want to just pick up a pound at a time... H1000, imr7828ssc, Retumbo , Imr4831, and even power pro 4000mr. The 4000 mr was pushing the 208 AMAX out of my 5R at over 3,000 fps. It's a powder that will push the 200's to 215's with GREAT SPEED AND ACCURACY.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/20/2015
Aimsmall55
What velocity did you get the 230 hybrid target to and what accuracy did you get with it.
Thanks
Jon
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Aimsmall55XFirst Sergeant
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/21/2015
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Aimsmall55
What velocity did you get the 230 hybrid target to and what accuracy did you get with it.
Thanks
Jon
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Jon, I shoot the 230 hybrids out of a 30" Broughton 5c. With 76.36 grains of Retumbo, and RP brass I'm getting about 2950 fps. With Nosler and Norma, I'm getting about 2925. The rifle still hammers, but the bbl has certainly slowed down. As a matter of fact, 76.36 is a lower node because I am seating them 2.975" to the ogive which has way less pressure. So thus weekend I'm going to bump it up to around 77 & 78 grains. Try and hit a higher node.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/21/2015
Aimsmall55
I tried the 230 hybrid target with retumbo today. 75.7 grains netted 2885 fps and accuracy in the .3's. I had the same accuracy at 0.020 and 0.100 off the lands. The barrel is a 28" benchmark. I'm going to work up to 77.0 and see what the groups look like. Thanks for your help.
Jon
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Aimsmall55XFirst Sergeant
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/21/2015
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Aimsmall55
I tried the 230 hybrid target with retumbo today. 75.7 grains netted 2885 fps and accuracy in the .3's. I had the same accuracy at 0.020 and 0.100 off the lands. The barrel is a 28" benchmark. I'm going to work up to 77.0 and see what the groups look like. Thanks for your help.
Jon
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Jon, glad it's working for you. Not a problem at all pointing you that way. Good luck and keep me posted.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/28/2015
Thanks to Dan Newberry, I've found 77.2 H1000 pushes the 215 Hybrids very nicely.
77.2 H1000
215 Hybrid
GM215M
Norma brass, neck sized and collet sized(Willis)
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/30/2015 Last edited 08/30/2015 by Smokerroller
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400 YARDS
Load details in first two Pics. Also running .001" neck tension. Kissing the Lands.
This is a
hot load! Based on Applied Ballistics the 210 gr VLD might be moving at about 2700 FPS out of a 23" factory barrel SUPPRESSED.
I have not confirmed drop any further than 400 yards as of yet.
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Re: 300WM-WSM
08/30/2015 Last edited 08/30/2015 by Beiruty
smoker,
Very nice rifle. I love Tikka. unbelievably accurate for some $650 rifle. And for its weight too and how thin is the barrel.
What kind of Magazine you are using? Would it work with no modification to the Tikka stock?