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Training camps in our backyard....

Hi,

Well I wonder what that Sheriff would think about many of us since this is his view....

Sincerely,
Theis

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Upon authorities' arrival, Wahhaj was "heavily armed with an AR15 rifle, five loaded 30 round magazines, and four loaded pistols, including one in his pocket when he was taken down," Taos County Sheriff Jerry Hogrefe said.
 
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not possible...CNN tells me all the mulsims in this country are non-violent women and children
In 3 different articles CNN also failed to mention who this man’s father is and his terror ties. Annndd no mention of using the compound to train children to shoot up schools. Call it what it is!! Extremism!
 
Local papers up north took a picture we had while shooting off a rooftop and said we are training the next Vegas shooter also in the article mentioned are local prs matches is a training camp for ISIS.
 
Local papers up north took a picture we had while shooting off a rooftop and said we are training the next Vegas shooter also in the article mentioned are local prs matches is a training camp for ISIS.

Got a link? I'd be interested in seeing exactly what they had to say.
 
You guys act surprised...I am not, not one bit.

This is not random or isolated and it sure seems like someone is getting exactly what they wanted. For some reason We have become the enemy and are hated for loving our country. At the same time the real Enemy has become loved for hating our country. That's how effed up sh!t is.
 
You guys act surprised...I am not, not one bit.

This is not random or isolated and it sure seems like someone is getting exactly what they wanted. For some reason We have become the enemy and are hated for loving our country. At the same time the real Enemy has become loved for hating our country. That's how effed up sh!t is.

The greatest hope I have is that this shit is intentional to create a backlash of earnest Patriotism.

We are bloated, fat and complacent. We take our fortune for granted.

Our kids occasional sitter is now is South Africa and based on her lack of melanin if she aint shitting bricks....well I know she is. Out of the blue, she contacted us this week informing she cant get a visa back into the US. I sense she is sending out distress signals.

Imagine living like that? No security, no certainty of the future....

That is where we are headed if we dont get our shit together.
 
The only thing I am surprised at is that it was actually found. There are lots of places in the US where this could happen without anyone knowing. In fact, if the kids at this place were better cared for, would anyone have batted an eye?
 
Insane thing is that the media has propagandized things so that we believe we are weak and those that believe in traditional America are few.

They have done the opposite with non traditional beliefs making it seem that they are the majority and strong.

A lot of people that would other wise resist this shit have given up because the idea of a battle fought in the minority has no appeal to them.

This is a self fulfilling agenda for the propagandists.

If they can not in actual numbers have what they want they are creating it by making the majority acquiesce without a fight.
 
The only thing I am surprised at is that it was actually found. There are lots of places in the US where this could happen without anyone knowing. In fact, if the kids at this place were better cared for, would anyone have batted an eye?
Sad, but you are probably right on with this.

I’ve read that one child belonged to one of the dudes arrested, any idea on the other 10?
 
The only thing I am surprised at is that it was actually found. There are lots of places in the US where this could happen without anyone knowing. In fact, if the kids at this place were better cared for, would anyone have batted an eye?

Dude our surveillance state is now so tight that I doubt anything goes on that does not get noticed.

I wondered about all those cameras on the roadways and wondered who was watching them.....

.......they now send out emails to tell the nearest PO "Unregistered MV just got on route X north bound", "Stolen Plate just entered Route Y South Bound", "Vehicle with suspended owner on Rt X".

Shit had to travel last week and found out my fast pass transponder finally died. I called them up when I suspected the tolls were taking pictures of my car. Lady confirmed yes the transponder appears to be inoperable and she was viewing pictures of my plate to send a bill.

Security for Freedom......
 
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Dude our surveillance state is now so tight that I doubt anything goes on that does not get noticed.

I wondered about all those cameras on the roadways and wondered who was watching them.....

.......they now send out emails to tell the nearest PO "Unregistered MV just got on route X north bound", "Stolen Plate just entered Route Y South Bound", "Vehicle with suspended owner on Rt X".

Shit had to travel last week and found out my fast pass transponder finally died. I called them up when I suspected the tolls were taking pictures of my car. Lady confirmed yes the transponder appears to be inoperable and she was viewing pictures of my plate to send a bill.

Security for Freedom......

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Ben Franklin
 
Dude our surveillance state is now so tight that I doubt anything goes on that does not get noticed.

I wondered about all those cameras on the roadways and wondered who was watching them.....

.......they now send out emails to tell the nearest PO "Unregistered MV just got on route X north bound", "Stolen Plate just entered Route Y South Bound", "Vehicle with suspended owner on Rt X".

Shit had to travel last week and found out my fast pass transponder finally died. I called them up when I suspected the tolls were taking pictures of my car. Lady confirmed yes the transponder appears to be inoperable and she was viewing pictures of my plate to send a bill.

Security for Freedom......
While I hear what your saying in bigger cities and outlying areas. In rural areas I don’t think it would be real hard to stay off the radar. Just keep off of the internet and pay with cash. Maybe I’m just naive idk
 
While I hear what your saying in bigger cities and outlying areas. In rural areas I don’t think it would be real hard to stay off the radar. Just keep off of the internet and pay with cash. Maybe I’m just naive idk

No, not naïve. Lots and lots of roads in my state with little to no camera surveillance. They all typically have 2 lanes and speed limits of 55 or less. Very useful in many situations, routine and otherwise.

And yep, cash is king
 
Shit, PA is littered with them. When they aren’t using the SGL ranges, they are using their own large tracts of land.
Yeah the closed a Game commision range because they caught some terrorists , I mean peaceful immigrants who had trained there . Where are thesr tracts of land in Pa. ?
 
Insane thing is that the media has propagandized things so that we believe we are weak and those that believe in traditional America are few.

They have done the opposite with non traditional beliefs making it seem that they are the majority and strong.

A lot of people that would other wise resist this shit have given up because the idea of a battle fought in the minority has no appeal to them.

This is a self fulfilling agenda for the propagandists.

If they can not in actual numbers have what they want they are creating it by making the majority acquiesce without a fight.
Exactly . So when the Government says hey ee need to take away rights x, y and z to protect you from terrorist the sheople bleet in agreement .
Reminds me of when the news got out that the Government was illegally tapping everyone's phones . When a reporter asked Feinstein how do you justify violating Constitutional Rights blah blah blah ?
She replied " shut up we're protecting you ."
Maybe she meant "We're protecting ewe ."
 
The greatest hope I have is that this shit is intentional to create a backlash of earnest Patriotism.

We are bloated, fat and complacent. We take our fortune for granted.

Our kids occasional sitter is now is South Africa and based on her lack of melanin if she aint shitting bricks....well I know she is. Out of the blue, she contacted us this week informing she cant get a visa back into the US. I sense she is sending out distress signals.

Imagine living like that? No security, no certainty of the future....

That is where we are headed if we dont get our shit together.
Can't bring real refugees who are decent human beings here. Nope let's bring some more Boston Bombers and other pieces of shit. Then we can rob the producers to pay for their food and housing.
 
Dude our surveillance state is now so tight that I doubt anything goes on that does not get noticed.

I wondered about all those cameras on the roadways and wondered who was watching them.....

.......they now send out emails to tell the nearest PO "Unregistered MV just got on route X north bound", "Stolen Plate just entered Route Y South Bound", "Vehicle with suspended owner on Rt X".

Shit had to travel last week and found out my fast pass transponder finally died. I called them up when I suspected the tolls were taking pictures of my car. Lady confirmed yes the transponder appears to be inoperable and she was viewing pictures of my plate to send a bill.

Security for Freedom......

In most densely populated areas, you are absolutely correct. However, where I live in RI, not so much but it is reasonably rural. There are many areas of desolate land where I don't think much time is pent observing due to the lack of infrastructure but that is what satellites are for.

I hear you regarding transponders. I had no idea that they photographed every car. When my car was in the body shop, I had a rental and I moved the transponder. I went through the toll booth on the bridge and got a call within a couple of hours asking if I had my transponder stolen. I said no. Why are you asking and they knew it was in a different car. Guess I was supposed to tell them that.

Very scary. Cell phones are no different.
 
In most densely populated areas, you are absolutely correct. However, where I live in RI, not so much but it is reasonably rural. There are many areas of desolate land where I don't think much time is pent observing due to the lack of infrastructure but that is what satellites are for.

I hear you regarding transponders. I had no idea that they photographed every car. When my car was in the body shop, I had a rental and I moved the transponder. I went through the toll booth on the bridge and got a call within a couple of hours asking if I had my transponder stolen. I said no. Why are you asking and they knew it was in a different car. Guess I was supposed to tell them that.

Very scary. Cell phones are no different.

Vehicle inspections in MA now include a picture of front plate and rear plate.

There are still individuals with 20 plus year old single plate registrations.

Im figuring those pictures download to a recognition data base of some sort.

Initially this is only related to the new gantry tolls and the need to capture every nickle they can from the sheep but when will it be weaponized to "Update the arrest team everytime reg 123AB6 passes a camera"?
 
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Vehicle inspections in MA now include a picture of front plate and rear plate.

There are still individuals with 20 plus year old single plate registrations.

Im figuring those pictures download to a recognition data base of some sort.

Initially this is only related to the new gantry tolls and the need to capture every nickle they can from the sheep but when will it be weaponized to "Update the arrest team everytime reg 123AB6 passes a camera"?

Agreed

I feel safe. Don't you?
 
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I/we true Canadians are just as ashamed and embarrassed about our current "leader" and the idiots who voted it in, as you true Americans are/were about your former "leader" and the idiots that voted it in. Twice.

You've all definitely stepped up, and corrected the flow for sure, with your current Leader. We too can only aspire to do the same, only sooner and in 1 term, not two.
 
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While I hear what your saying in bigger cities and outlying areas. In rural areas I don’t think it would be real hard to stay off the radar. Just keep off of the internet and pay with cash. Maybe I’m just naive idk

Youre correct. Google maps updates the rural areas less frequently, Id guess other surveillance is about the same.

One does need be careful in paying "all cash" as that can bring looks. A buddy of mine paid cash for a train ticket and when he got n the train some Railroad Dicks were waiting for him. Try buying a car all cash.
 
I/we true Canadians are just as ashamed and embarrassed about our current "leader" and the idiots who voted it in, as you true Americans are/were about your former "leader" and the idiots that voted it in. Twice.

You've all definitely stepped up, and corrected the flow for sure, with your current Leader. We too can only aspire to do the same, only sooner and in 1 term, not two.
The True North strong and free!

The North remembers.
 
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Youre correct. Google maps updates the rural areas less frequently, Id guess other surveillance is about the same.
One does need be careful in paying "all cash" as that can bring looks. A buddy of mine paid cash for a train ticket and when he got n the train some Railroad Dicks were waiting for him. Try buying a car all cash.

For things like Train tickets and such, that's where you visit your local grocery store (don't use any frequent shopper club), and buy a prepaid credit card paying cash (they usually only accept cash for prepaid cards), and then go use it. Might suggest a hat with a brim and keep your face pointed down so they have to work a bit harder if they want to figure out who bought that card.
 
The government im[ported this threat to scare you into agreeing to anything for safety, now our government has been revealed to be the biggest threat to the republic we have. DC needs to be knocked back into its Constitutional bounds, and soon. Trump needs to take bold action ala Lincoln, time to defunct a lot of institutions.
 
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Surveillance, tracking, etc., has been a fact of life for decades, if not scores of years. It's not confined to governments, and it's not ever going away. The very volume of information generated by this activity is its very Achilles Heel. It looks for people behaving outside their own activity patterns, and is probably unable to cope with sudden mass deviations from those behavior patterns. I don't now, and I don't worry about what I don't know. I like the idea that more and more resources are being drawn into what I consider to be a futile exercise; i.e when they have the info, what do they do with it next? I don't think there's a consensus on that in government, and such a consensus would be the thing that troubles me most, because as a political construct, impasse and group thinking are the likeliest outcomes. Then there's the political factor, which is constantly changing. That's not good for productive outcomes.

Communism failed because no matter how much power it wielded internally, I could not master both the internal and external tasks required to impose its success on an unwilling world; and the idea was never a good one in the first place. Governments which consider totalitarianism as a viable plan can never get their acts together sufficiently to achieve their goals, whatever they may be. They all want to be the top dog, they can't all be, and that's a recipe for failure. All they do manage to achieve is pain and death, and eventually it's their own. Of all the wasted effort in this world, the attempts by disparate governments to achieve both external and internal supremacy are the most wasteful, the ones where the bulk of deadlocked, wasted energy most abounds. When all that energy is totaled up and the counteracting forces are cancelled out, actually productive energy probably amounts to less than ten percent overall, and probably less than five.

Standing up and being the nail simply draws attention from the otherwise frustrated operatives of such organizations. I think it's far better simply get on with one's life, because if enough do, there becomes less and less reason to justify those operatives' existence. When doing what's productive becomes a big enough portion of everything that's going on, surveillance becomes redundant, and harder and harder to justify. I figure just doing what one needs to do to survive day to day, waiting it out, provides the most success and satisfaction. Going against that is simply playing into some fairly effective hands, and adds to the meager justification for all that Secret Squirrel fun and games aimed at domestic dissent. I prefer to wait them out and let them reap the rewards of boredom and redundancy. They'll never catch me up in their nets because, simply, there's nothing to catch me doing that justifies their attention; in may ways, a simple life is the best one, and this is only one of the reasons why such is so.

Maybe the reason why the activities depicted in the original post get by for so long is because so much of the needed attention is wasted in vetting the innocent. I don't believe that the folks in charge are ever gong to learn that lesson; more's the pity. Everyman is not the suspect, but one size fits all, and logic be damned.

Greg
 
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